Thinking about going water!

[GnomeWizardd]

I been thinking about it for a while and I think I wanna do it! NOTE: I want a decent WC for cpu block only right now and It needs to be cheap as possible.

Any Ideas guys??

[Al_Capown]

Any D-Tek Whitewater should do the deed.

Expensive is a very relative term so you can decide which block you want.

http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=209

What other parts have you bought?

[GnomeWizardd]

Nothing at all Just pricing out now
I would like to stay around $100 - 150

[TheLostSwede]

There is nothing that is cheap and decent in watercooling IMO. Either the full monty or wait until you can afford the well known brands.

http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=102

That's a nice 1/2 kit if you choose the White Water block. GREAT radiator (a few friends here have it and i want it as well), GREAT pump and the rest seems to contain all you need. Easy to upgrade as well.

[GnomeWizardd]

http://www.plycon.com/water/senfucool.htm


Was looking at this for a starter but i need a rad that will work with it any ideas or is that a no??

[GnomeWizardd]

Remember this is just to start and will be upgrading in the future one i get the hang of it

[Al_Capown]

The radiator is a bit small don't you think? That's what 1x80mm? 1x92mm?

//edit// do you have any reviews on that senfu watercooler II? To me it's like a piece of garbage :nudge:

I'm sure the pump that's included with it isn't exactly quality either. I dunno, I wouldn't trust that kit with my system.

[GnomeWizardd]

only cooling a cpu tho! I am not going for frezing temps i am going to get rid of fans that are soo noisy!

[TheLostSwede]

No.

Senfu uses an impossible size of it's fittings which you can't just go to the hardware shop and buy. Normal fittings like 3/8 or 1/2 is what you should choose on a watercooling setup. I can guarantee you will need some sort of acessories from time to time. That senfu isn't any better than a good aircooling setup either. Haven't seen any reviews lately though. I would stay away.

[GnomeWizardd]

Ok Mack I got a favorto ask ! Build me a CHEAP yet good WC setup! If you do you will be rewarded with a Internet cookie! maybe one made by the Master Elf himself!

[TheLostSwede]

I made a little list on whats needed at D-tek. This does not include a fan on the radiator or a shroud though.

Just over a hundred is a great price for this kind of quality.

[GnomeWizardd]

ok what fan / shroud should i get since i think Bikr from modasylum is gonna hook me up with a block

[TheLostSwede]

That setup is built on that you build your own fill line and without a reservior. Everything you need is there + a few bits and bobs that WILL come in handy. The pump is very cheap but have good words from the users i have seen. The block was one of the better a year back. Everything is 1/2 size so you don't need any adapters. Easy to upgrade as well. I think they have 10% discount until the 22:nd as well.

[GnomeWizardd]

BTW is it possible to put the WC outside the box in a seperate compartment and run the tubes inside?

[TheLostSwede]

A shroud isn't necessary but will yield you less noise and a little better cooling though.

You can easy make your own from 1mm alu-sheets if you are a little handy. I suggest a good 120mm fan such as panaflo or even better a Papst. Remember, it's the fans that make the noise so therefore, choosing a good fan or 2 can make a real difference.

[TheLostSwede]

GnomeWizardd had this to say
BTW is it possible to put the WC outside the box in a seperate compartment and run the tubes inside?

Yes, but you might need a little more powerful pump if that's what you want.

[GnomeWizardd]

got 120mm Enermax Adjustibles sitting in my bin and I cnat find that damn RAD you put up its just not there!

[GnomeWizardd]

http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=31

would this pump be enuf?

[TheLostSwede]

GnomeWizardd had this to say
got 120mm Enermax Adjustibles sitting in my bin and I cnat find that damn RAD you put up its just not there!

The radiator is from their special deals section. Can be small scratches on the rad but who cares?

[Al_Capown]

GnomeWizardd had this to say
BTW is it possible to put the WC outside the box in a seperate compartment and run the tubes inside?

Yep.

Btw Mackanz wouldn't a chevette heatercore be a better call for the $$$?

[TheLostSwede]

The bigger pump is recommended:

http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=30

[GnomeWizardd]

this is what i got so far

[TheLostSwede]

You need fittings on that radiator as well. Rest looks just like the stuff i created.

[muddocktor]

You don't really need their pro core radiator; I'm using their regular rad with the shroud on my wc dually with no problems. As for a fan, get a 120 X 38 mm fan(or 2) like the Panaflo M1A fan I use or the 84 cfm Sunon. I find that that my Panaflo is less noisy than an Enermax 120, which I also have. Also, I highly recommend the use of a shroud. Just like with a car's radiator, a shroud on your computer's radiator brings the efficiency way up. If you can't afford to buy the shroud that Dtek sells, then go to overclockers.com and run a search in their forums on building a shroud. They have a thread there telling you how to build your own shroud.

[GnomeWizardd]

well scratch water cooling going to be focusing on trying to buy a flat panel Monitor for another folding machine!

[ginipig]

I'm just curious. How much space do water-cooling kits take up? (onsidering the smallest and the largest possible setup)

[Thrax]

A watercooling kit can fit in anything from a shuttle SFF box, all the way up to requiring a full tower that has to meet certain requirements to accomodate the kit.

Generally, the bigger the better with watercooling. That's in regards to the radiator which takes up the most space.

[ginipig]

Wait, when you said "full-tower," did you mean in addition to pre-existing cases? I've got a chieftec full-tower that's sporting my below specs. Are you saying that the kit may fit in my case, or that I should purchase something else that'll encase it?

[Thrax]

The chieftec full tower is a decent candidate for a fully-enclosed water cooling setup.

Its short-coming is the poor ventilation in the front due to the arched plastic bands on the bezel. If one were to be a case-modder, this could be overcome...But since most people aren't, most buy new cases with watercooling in mind, or they choose to run the radiator outside of the system which has better temperatures.

The chieftec would fit it all inside the case, though... With your system too.

[ginipig]

:) Thanks