Forum Upgrade

[Shorty]

It twas xmas day, nothing was stirring.. so I thought Id just upgrade the forums while it's deadly quiet :thumbsup:

Please report all bugs you find in this thread, including browser/operating system and a clear description :)

There are ALOT of new features, so take your time to familiarise yourself with the whole thing.. it's very new.

Why did we upgrade? Performance, features, configurability and an excuse to overhaul the design :D

EDIT<<<

I know some smilies are missing, Im just upgrading those as well ;)

EDIT;

[McBain]

Slick......nice little present to wake up to. Thanks Shorty and merry christmas

/* edit: How do I get back to short-media.com

The pretty little graphic keeps takin me back to forums

*/

/* edit2: Nm, found a link @ bottom */

[Bud]

cool upgrade shorty what a nice surprise on christmas.

[Necropolis]

Great job mate. Well Done :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Mt_Goat]

Good work m8! I like it a lot and it is sooo much faster too. :D

[Shorty]

It should be considerably faster. There are alot of SQL queries.. which have been replaced with conditional statements in the HTML templates. It's certainly more expansive to adapt.

I have a few more things to do on it, but it's shaped up well :)

[Black Hawk]

w00t!!! :celebrate

*poke* (http://virtues-of-evil.no-ip.com/smilies) :D

P.S: in the "reply to thread" part you could make the smilies part smaller by removing the "screwed" and "party" smiley from there.

[Shorty]

The smilies are called randomly now (for some reason I have no clue of). Im going to edit that to stop it ;D

[EMT]

Whoooa. Sweet. Refreshed a page from last night and got a little surprise :)

Looking good. Awkward to start reading on the left but will get used to it. Nice work!

P.S. I love this "___ minutes/hours ago" scheme!

[Lincoln]

Nice work, mate :)

[Kwitko]

Nice work, mate :)
Hey! Why is Keebler's avatar so big? Is he overcompensating?

[Shorty]

Probably ;D

[GnomeWizardd]

Very nice!! I woke up rolled into my chair and started up Firebird to come to this I was like SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT!!!!! Great job and extreamly fast! If only every site had a shorty the Internet would be a better place

[Kwitko]

Okay, I clicked on Quick Reply button in Keebler's post. It didn't fill in his quoted post in the Quick Reply box, but added it to my post anyway. Got that?

[Shorty]

Okay, I clicked on Quick Reply button in Keebler's post. It didn't fill in his quoted post in the Quick Reply box, but added it to my post anyway. Got that?
Yep ;) ... thats a "feature" apparently ;D

I might remove that.. as its a legacy from the hybrid/threaded mode.. which I removed anyway (it was a pointless and a pain in teh..)

[Lincoln]

My avatar has been that way for months... :hrm:

So where's the option to put avatars and such back in the left column where they belong? ;)

[Shorty]

Ive not added it ;) I will once I have final defacto code from Jelsoft. So you will just have to be patient :p

[profdlp]

I am old, and therefore prone to complain about any changes in my familiar, comfortable old routine -
OOOOhhhh!!! We got lots more fonts! This is so cool... :thumbup

...prof goes off to see what else is under the S-M Forums tree...
:woowoo:

[Mr_Bojingles]

Looking good guys! :cool:

Like everything that changes, it will take me a bit to get used to it, but don't see that as a complaint.

[Black Hawk]

Ok so I've thought about it and my personal quirks are:


Name at the top of a post is just to big. Also when it's bold cause of staff. I think some sort of limit for the diameters of avatars is needed (if there isn't already).
The right side of the top of a post where it says the name of the poster seems empty. Needs something I think. Maybe if a rating or award system is implemented, it'll look nicer ;)
There's something which I don't know that just makes it a bit harder to read a thread. I guess it could be cause I'm not used to the design

[Lincoln]

Ive not added it ;) I will once I have final defacto code from Jelsoft. So you will just have to be patient :p

Quickly now, before I go and get used to it or something... :p

[Shorty]

Its a totally new design, different from what you are used to.. so it will take some small time to adjust ;)

Its different for me.. Ive been looking at this for the last 25 days ;D

No rating or award system. It's been discussed and is a no-no.. so Il find something else ;)

[Mr_Bojingles]

There's something which I don't know that just makes it a bit harder to read a thread. I guess it could be cause I'm not used to the design
[/list]

Same here. I think it is because when you read from post to post you have to go past a members name/avatar/etc plus their signature. Which to me, breaks up the individual posts quite a bit.

[Shorty]

Quickly now, before I go and get used to it or something... :p
Nope... get used to it ;)

Jelsoft havent decided exactly on the gold code element.. I see no sense hacking it in.. when it will be default in the next update :D

[Leonardo]

OOH, I like this. Only one small request: Is it possible to have the forum/thread link at the bottom of the thread page as it was in the previous VB version? I enjoyed the convenience of accessing the main thread link at the bottom of the page without having to scroll to the top to find it.

[Shorty]

Il work something in for you Leo :)

[Mr_Bojingles]

Where can we find post count? :confused:

I know it used to be in a members profile, but I don't even see it there anymore.

[mmonnin]

Milestones need to be taken off of the new posts.

And yes the "Short-Media Forums > Hardware Forums >" tree needs to be at the bottom as well. One of my quirks on AMDMBforums is that you have to click on the forum jump to go back to the forum you cam from or scroll to the top.

Lookin good Shorty:)

[Shorty]

In answer to both questions...

Post count is completely removed now. Where as before it was sort of visible, it is completely removed :) We never wanted/used it anyway ;)

The nav bar will return at the bottom later on today :)

I now need to go off and do some SQL stuff, some general maintenance.. and other bits and bobs. So il reread this thread in a few hours :)

[keto]

Quick thought: With all the empty space beside the ava/name, what about moving sigs up top beside them? Or allowing "partial" sigs up there and regular below? Actually, as I type this, I think it's a terrible idea =P but I'll leave it here in case anyone wants to discuss.

Loving the new design, as noted it's also much quicker to load. Props.

[Mr_Bojingles]

[QUOTE=Shorty]
Post count is completely removed now. Where as before it was sort of visible, it is completely removed :) We never wanted/used it anyway ;)
[QUOTE]

I understand the reasoning for hiding it in a members profile(instead of having on their posts) but it was always nice to look it up to feed the "curiosity" of how many posts you had. Not to be used for bragging rights or to make you above others for having more posts, just was nice to know.

[Spinner]

I'm sorry Shorty, but the upgrade just plain sucks!!!

Okay okay, I know I didn't have anyone going with that one. I love it, I love it so much I just want to get down on my knees and cry at the sheer beauty of it. Also the pixel symmetry balance of the index pages main logo lines are spot on, whoever perfected that baby deserves a medal.;)

p.s (Did I mentioned how much I love it?):clap::clap:

[tycho]

This looks so hot shorty... thanks for the fantastic christmas present!

[panzerkw]

This new layout is going to take some getting used to...

[Jello Biafra]

What does 'Group Memberships' do exactly in the user CP?

[panzerkw]

One thing about the post count, I'm fine about not having one on the forum itself, but what about it being displayed in the person's profile (as it was before). Sometimes I want to know how many posts I happen to have

[Shorty]

It wont increment anymore (saves 2 queries).. so it's kinda pointless anyway :)

Il hack in the old style postbit into a child style.. just gotta finish something else im working on. Few hours .

[EyesOnly]

Nice upgrade but i still like the older one. Opinion can change though if i get used to it. And you can even preview pm:s. :wink:

What's this similar threads thing at the bottom of each page.

[Shorty]

User CP-->options--> Style

There is now an option called "Old School Postbit". That style contains the old style horizontal postbit :)

Also, postcount increment restored.

Postcount is now available via the members link in the top navigation bar :)

[Spinner]

Sweet.

p.s (What's with the fact this 'quick reply' post had to be more than 10 characters?, it meant I had to ramble on like this so I could just say the word sweet, or has that always been the case?)

p.p.s (I love the profile photo thing, that rocks! he he)

[Dexter]

User CP-->options--> Style

There is now an option called "Old School Postbit". That style contains the old style horizontal postbit :)


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Looks great with the old-school view and the new colours/set-up!

:woowoo:

Dexter...

[Spinner]

Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this but I've noticed when a thread is loading, more often than not I get the bottom half of a big black box appearing before the posts have completely appeared.

[Shorty]

Il remove the min characters.

[Shorty]

The blackbox is the background before the gradients load.

[TheSmJ]

Thanks Shorty! Merry Christmas to you!

[shwaip]

either something's messed up with iDunno's sig, or just something odd is going on:

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~hanusaem/pixors/S-M/idunno.jpg

also, attachments don't work.

Copy to file system directory failed.)

[Shorty]

idunnos sig had an HTML table in it.. and he didnt close the tag.

Ive fixed it.

Attachments are also fixed :)

[panzerkw]

The "/me" tag doesn't seem to work

[mondi]

couple of things ...

// edit ... he beat me to it :)

it appears the /me doesnt work .. e.g (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=84950&postcount=2)

then a minor one -
not a big deal but it seems only mods and above can add a profile photo .. i probably wouldnt use it but some might like to.

also any chance of custom skinning???

very nice work though ... love the new format

[Shorty]

The /me tag will put back in when I have fathomed a few other minor upgrade bugs :)

Il fix profile pictures, Im sure I set it for all. It'l work in a couple of minutes ;)

[Shorty]

Profile pictures now work for all :)

[WuGgaRoO]

hey who is virtues of evil...he is already a mod...what the deal? is he an old sm member or sumone who came while i was on high-a-tus (or however u spell it)

[Thrax]

Names don't need to be revealed, but he's been here since the beginning.

[Thrax]

Signature won't allow sigs bigger than 500 characters long; that's a bit short for people who put HTML code in their sig, as well as folding sigs, ETC.

Can we expand it alot? heh.

[Shorty]

2000 enough for ya Thrax ;)

[Thrax]

No. -laughing-

[Shorty]

Grr.. do I have to make a special privilege just for u huh? ;)

[Thrax]

Yeah. :D

[madmat]

Can you re-incorporate the "View new posts" bit on the main page? I really liked that feature as it cut down on toodling along through all the threads.
I like the new look.

[madmat]

OOPS...my bad, found it under quick links. Nice setup, great, great GREAT!!!

[Black Hawk]

hey who is virtues of evil...he is already a mod...what the deal? is he an old sm member or sumone who came while i was on high-a-tus (or however u spell it)
*Virtues of Evil slaps WuGgaRoO around with a large trout

[Shorty]

Yeah. :D
Il sort something ;)

[Thrax]

10k characters! :D

[Leonardo]

I now need to go off and do some SQL stuff, some general maintenance

My Dear Shorty,

Did you and Mrs. Shorty have opportunity for Christmas joy and cheer today? I feel bad, considering I've had a day of dining and family, wondering if you've been slaving all day at the keyboard. Seriously.

Leo

[TheLostSwede]

Nice work!

However, every time i refresh i have to login again. After i have logged in, i'm getting pushed to my control panel.

This is with the old style. Slimbrowser used.

[Mr_Bojingles]

:respect: Shorty, you da man! :rockon:

[bothered]

All very nice, I like it, But, When I move my mouse over a forum a box keeps popping up telling me what's in the posts, Bloody annoying, it's like the dreaded paper clip. How can I turn it off? I can't find an option in edit options.
Well done though.

ps, just saw this post, I have no idea why it's bold?

[Shorty]

Ok... Ive slept.. so lets answer some posts ;)

Leo my good man...

Mrs Shorty is unfortunately required to work all over xmas & new year. The joys of dating a police officer. She worked from 7am till 4pm.. then 7pm till 11pm yesterday and is doing the same again today. We had our xmas three weeks ago ;) along with my family xmas two weeks ago.. as my parents are away enjoying their first xmas without us kids around :)

Mack matey...

Clear all your cookies. Some have reported cookie clashes, so clear the temp internet & cookies.. and all will function as it should :)

Bothered sir..

It's bold because some people's sigs have bold tags in it and haven't closed them properly. I have already fixed around about 9 sigs that have bad tables/tags and bbcode in them. Il find who the next culprit is in this thread.. in a moment :)

EDIT:: Fixt Macks sig. He hadn't closed the bold tag in his sig :)

[Dexter]

OOPS...my bad, found it under quick links. Nice setup, great, great GREAT!!!


Why not just use the link called NEW POSTS in the menu on the top of the page?

User CP FAQ Members List Calendar New Posts Search Quick Links Log out

[bothered]

Ok, thanks, but, how can I turn off the pop up box?
I have a brother in law who's a police officer, great guy, so I understand the work thing, Bless em all for being there though eh?
And by the way, what was in your big box?

[Shorty]

You can't turn off the popup box. It's a dynamic HTML alt tag...

Il look and see if I can hack in the option to turn it off in your userCP :)

[Straight_Man]

EXCELLENT, Shorty!

Um, in one of the posts in this thread, the bullets are outside the post text frame. Somebody fed an unordered outline, and there was no minimum left margin in post display box???

Like this a LOT, though.

New posts quick link real neat. THANKS!

Hint to Wugaroo: Has `tk disappeared as ID??? About time VoE appeared???

John.

[mmonnin]

Ageek: VoE is BlackHawk dumby.

[Enverex]

Looks like some people need a lesson in code closing...

Anyway, found something else I don't like, when you look at the time someone posted, it isn't a date or anything anymore, it's like "3 Days ago" or "7 Hours ago" etc...

[TheSmJ]

Ohh, ohh!

How about having the forum tree (You know... "Short-Media Forums > Short-Media > Feedback > Forum Upgrade") at the bottom of the page, as well as the top? I always valued this in V2's setup.

[Shorty]

The VB2 version was a hack I did. Im looking to repeat it. Give me an hour or so :)

[Black Hawk]

You could also make the text of that tree thingy a bit smaller.

[EQuito]

I use to be able to click "View New Posts" and save the URL in my Favorites so I when I come back later I always see the latest posts but it doesn't work anymore. Am I doing something wrong or is it something that needs to be fixed?

Thanks in advance.

PS: the new layout looks good but I hate change... :shakehead

[Black Hawk]

http://www.short-media.com/forum/search.php?do=getnew seems to work.

[EQuito]

Thanks but it doesn't work. If you click that link an hour from now you'll see the same posts...

[Shorty]

Works by indexed search via sessions. I still dont know why they did that :wtf:

Im looking to try and code the old style back EQ.

[EQuito]

Thanks Shorty and keep up the good work! :respect:

[Shorty]

I know alot of us use that as a direct link. It's bugging me already, so I know its gotta be bugging others :)

Ive already got the code open in Dreamweaver..

/me rolls up sleeves..

Ok.. lets see what we can do here..

[Shorty]

EQ... try now.

I _think_ it'l work now using Blackhawks link.

[TheSmJ]

When I click on a thread which I have never read before, I am taken to the last post. Shouldn't I be taken to the first?

[EyesOnly]

Well done shorty. The site looks great with the old style listings and the new colorsheme. BTW why does blackhawk sometimes use the name vitues of evil as previously stated in this thread. Isn't there plenty of mods anyway. And at the bottom of this page there's a part that says similar threads. What is it.

[Shorty]

Similar threads are threads that ... similar to the one you are reading ;)

[bothered]

User CP-->options--> Style

There is now an option called "Old School Postbit". That style contains the old style horizontal postbit :)

I went back to this, it seems to keep the posts 'more together' somehow.
Shorty, can you turn off that pop up box? it's driving me mad.

[Black Hawk]

BTW why does blackhawk sometimes use the name vitues of evil as previously stated in this thread. Isn't there plenty of mods anyway.
:scratch:

[Straight_Man]

The trick with mods is to have 2-3 online on a forum, 24\7. With a few, there are times when mods are not looking out for things. Since the mods are usually volunteers, they get to choose when they are on. Some mods take time off to concentrate on life, from time to time, and this can happen at random.

Frankly, I think BlackHawk is good as mod, and could become a very good sysadmin.

John.

[Enverex]

I think BH was more pointing out 3 aspects in EOs post. 1 the randomness of it, secondly, why does he ask the name change here, and thirdly, the fact he is almost blatantly insulting him and saying that he doesn't need to be a mod.

[Lincoln]

BTW why does blackhawk sometimes use the name vitues of evil as previously stated in this thread. Isn't there plenty of mods anyway.

He changed his name - so he doesn't use it "sometimes," he just plain uses that name now ;) I'm not sure what that second bit is about, but he's been a mod longer than all but 3 or 4 people on the staff (I'm including IC tenure as well).

[EyesOnly]

I didn't mean to insult anyone i thought that blackhawk had gotten a second username and wondered why. Can't he do what he wants with just one. As for the number of mods it prolly can't get high enough. I like modded forums since then i know it's a good and safe environment to be in but i couldn't understand why a mod would have two accounts. Well now i know. And again i'm sorry. Must remember to explain what i mean better to avoid confusion.

[Shorty]

EyesOnly..

Just to clarify this mis-understood situation... Blackhawk had his account changed to his new name :)

He only has the one account. However, there will always be references to him across the forum with the old username.. as is the way dynamic software can be flawed ;)

His posts will display his new name but old threads he created will always say "Blackhawk".. as the BB software doesn't update the thread table to compensate :)

I hope that clears up that misunderstanding :)

[Black Hawk]

I didn't mean to insult anyone i thought that blackhawk had gotten a second username and wondered why. Can't he do what he wants with just one. As for the number of mods it prolly can't get high enough. I like modded forums since then i know it's a good and safe environment to be in but i couldn't understand why a mod would have two accounts. Well now i know. And again i'm sorry. Must remember to explain what i mean better to avoid confusion. No problem but I've only had one account.

EyesOnly..

Just to clarify this mis-understood situation... Blackhawk had his account changed to his new name

He only has the one account. However, there will always be references to him across the forum with the old username.. as is the way dynamic software can be flawed

His posts will display his new name but old threads he created will always say "Blackhawk".. as the BB software doesn't update the thread table to compensate

I hope that clears up that misunderstanding What he said :D

[EyesOnly]

Misunderstanding cleared up. Thanks shorty and voe-bh

[McBain]

Uhh.....little bit of a WTF going on here....btw....using firebird.

See for yourself

[Shorty]

That is a CSS rendering issue with VBulletin.. which I have reported to their devs. Im waiting for feedback from them on a solution :)

[Enverex]

Actually, it makes sense. Where else is it going to be? Because your screen res it too low it has to truncate it.

The reply thread window is a complete mess as the moment due to the "kneel snickers" smiley.

[Shorty]

The smilies are now randomised. With no way of reverting back to the previously ordered selection (ala VB2).. again, Im waiting to see what Jelsoft do on the next service release (due beginning of the month).

The kneel suckers smiley is not omni-present every reply, so it's not a permanent problem.

[EyesOnly]

Agree that the reply window doesn't look to good. BTw i noticed earlier today that the dates now show as they used to with the previous forum. Is this because i'm using the older style listing or is it also in the newer.

[Enverex]

The smilies are now randomised. With no way of reverting back to the previously ordered selection (ala VB2).. again, Im waiting to see what Jelsoft do on the next service release (due beginning of the month).

The kneel suckers smiley is not omni-present every reply, so it's not a permanent problem.

Oh really? (See attached). It has been present in every post I have made since the change over (I have cleared caches and cookies since then). Plus it makes a complete mess, see attached again.

[Shorty]

The dates were reverted to the old style as general consensus was that the detailed version was too difficult to use :)

The post reply doesn't cause me that problem. Il look into it :)

[Shorty]

Smiley problem fixed.

[panzerkw]

Much gooder now

[Enverex]

Much gooder now

Yep, neat and tidy, though the entire page is still right aligned for some reason...

[Shorty]

Not on my screen :)

[profdlp]

For what it's worth, under IE6 w/all SP's I never had any trouble with the randomized smilies. (Other than having to hunt the :fold: guys down for milestones). Everything else has been quite smooth, too.

:clap:

[Enverex]

This is what I meant about bloated, the forum software is becoming crap, because it only looks spaced out enough at resolutions greater than 1600x1200, which I think you'll find most people dont run.

[profdlp]

This is what I meant about bloated, the forum software is becoming crap, because it only looks spaced out enough at resolutions greater than 1600x1200, which I think you'll find most people dont run.
I'm running 1280X960 and it looks fine. The only thing I noticed was that there seems to be more room on the screen, not less. :-/

[Necropolis]

Mine is running at 1280x1024 and there is plenty of room. Everything is well spaced. I like it this way.

[Camman]

upgrade looks pretty sleek, one question though, a lot of times when I've been on forums and they change around the style they leave the "old one" available as user selectable so you can use the old forum style if you want, any chance of that happening or because its VB3 is everything completely different?

[bothered]

User CP-->options--> Style
There is now an option called "Old School Postbit". That style contains the old style horizontal postbit :):)

Also the location of members seems to be missing. I always liked to see where people live. Any chance of putting it back in?

[EQuito]

Mine is running at 1280x1024 and there is plenty of room. Everything is well spaced. I like it this way.ditto :thumbsup:

[EQuito]

EQ... try now.
I _think_ it'l work now using Blackhawks link.Nope, still doesn't work but thanks for trying. ;)

[Shorty]

EQ... you gotta make

http://www.short-media.com/forum/search.php?do=getnew

a favourite :) I have it as my homepage, so I know it works now :)

[EQuito]

Thanks! I'll give it a try and let you know. ;)

[EQuito]

No luck Shorty, still doesn't work.
As you can see, a few minutes later there are new posts but using the link doesn't show them...

[Enverex]

Works for me. Seems like your browser is caching the page. Try pressing Ctrl+F5 to do a forced full reload. As that is a dynamic page, so it should always be right.

[EQuito]

Sorry, my bad. I didn't follow Shorty's post to the letter and I was saving the search result as my favorite instead of the URL he posted.
However, there seem to be a time limit and now (about an hour later) the search shows only two posts instead of all the posts since I made the link.

Do I make sense?

[Shorty]

Yeah it does mate :)

I did just check the post logs and it's just quiet at the moment. Il monitor it over the next few days and see if there is still a bug in it.. but I think it's just cause there isn't alot of peeps about posting :)

[EQuito]

There is definitely a bug or the time limit is very short cause I just clicked on it and now I get only one post (yours above) while a few minutes ago it was showing 4 or 5 threads.

[EyesOnly]

Never like the new date format so i'm glad it was changed back. The reply page look ok now. Everything is visible without the need to sidescroll at 1024x768. Good work shorty. :type:

[Shorty]

EQ... I've got some tweaking to do with the search (mainly to exclude milestones from showing up in the "new posts". Il take a snitch at it and see what it does :)

Ive also added "Thread started by:" in the forum display, so its more clear why a username is listed under a thread title :) and added a break between stickies/announcements and the main forum threads. Should help navigation.

[EQuito]

They don't show up and never did afaik but unfortunately, the "view new posts" keeps reseting every x amount of minutes/hours thus showing only the ones since the last reset.

Thanks for all the hard work! :thumbsup:

[Shorty]

Ive removed them from the search index, but it can take a while to repopulate. I did some tests but Ive submitted a report to VBulletin anyway on it. It's curious and I dont think we are the only ones with this wierd problem. Il keep ya informed :)

Added a bottom navigation bar as well. Just under the quick reply box when viewing a thread.. and underneath the threads when you view a forum. That should make navigation a snap :)

[EyesOnly]

Any news on the location info in posts that were mentioned earlier. I too like knowing where people are from. Thanks for adding the bottom navigation links. It really help to not have to scroll to the top in every post.

[Shorty]

Il look into it :)

[QCH]

I just noticed that when you perform a search and nothing is found... The page does not redirect you to anywhere. Also, there is no link to take you back to the forum home page. The main news home page is there, and an scroll box to select where to go, but no easy shortcut or redirection... Just my two cents.

[Shorty]

Il hack something in :)

[QCH]

Your the Shizzle, or whatever. Your cool, dude...

[bothered]

'cough' location?

[Shorty]

'cough' location?

Is there now ;)

[bothered]

Wonderful, I'll have to go woot!.....WOOT.

[Enverex]

Heres something interesting to add in. Time spent in forum. Completely pointless, yet interesting :)

Good call on the location bothered, I was going to say it myself but I think people are sick of hearing my voice.

[Shorty]

Heres something interesting to add in. Time spent in forum. Completely pointless, yet interesting :)

Good call on the location bothered, I was going to say it myself but I think people are sick of hearing my voice.

ooooo that's just been ported to VB3. Il look that up later.. :D

[bothered]

Good call on the location bothered, I was going to say it myself but I think people are sick of hearing my voice.

Well I'm not sick of hearing your voice, or is that seeing your voice?

[cybermatic]

The new forums are alot better I think. I just finished upgrading the forums on my site to the VB 3 Gold, and love it. There are quite few extra features too. Admin CP is also great.

[Shorty]

I have an upgrade path determined and ready for VBulletin 3 gold. Once the new sitecode is up and running, that's the next task.

VB3 is a great product, we are happy with it :)