Started folding

[Josh-]

I finally started F@H. Not sure if I'm doing it right, mostly just seeing variations of different strands of DNA-looking figures. I have a "Working.." text in the bottom window, its been probably 8 hours still BUT I'm still only at 13%. (325/2500)

Oh well, I guess any amount of help is fine.

[primesuspect]

YES. ANY amount of help is fine. As long as you have "93" in your team field, then you are all set :D

Thanks for joining the team!

A few hours after your first work unit (WU) is complete, your name will show up on the team roster.

[profdlp]

Awesome!

The fact that your display is showing 325/2500 is a sign that your computer is likely to be capable of the "meaty" WU's. Might take a little longer, but yields more points in the end. :thumbsup:

Great to have you on The Team!!!

[csimon]

I finally started F@H. Not sure if I'm doing it right, mostly just seeing variations of different strands of DNA-looking figures. I have a "Working.." text in the bottom window, its been probably 8 hours still BUT I'm still only at 13%. (325/2500)

Oh well, I guess any amount of help is fine.
are you using the extra sse boost josh? are you overclocking?

[GnomeWizardd]

welsome to the team. BTW how do i check to make sure sse is enabled?

[csimon]

look in your fahlog.txt on the line where it begins to process the wu

looks like this:

[17:14:12]
[17:14:12] Preparing to commence simulation
[17:14:12] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[17:14:12] - Not checking prior termination.
[17:14:13] - Expanded 1174644 -> 6054873 (decompressed 515.4 percent)
[17:14:13] - Starting from initial work packet
[17:14:13]
[17:14:13] Project: 1006 (Run 1, Clone 90, Gen 6)
[17:14:13]
[17:14:13] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[17:14:13] Entering M.D.
[17:14:20] Protein: p1006_ppg10_pfold
[17:14:20]
[17:14:20] Writing local files
[17:14:20] Extra SSE boost OK.
[17:14:20] Writing local files
[17:14:22] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0)

but I also ask if he is overclocking ...this could (and in many cases does)cause problems. monitor the temps carefully gnome.

[Josh-]

I'm not overcloking..im just running my computer asnormal as I usually would with it running...17% so far.

[profdlp]

What is the make & model of your CPU? There are a few settings which can optimize things, depending on your hardware.

:wave: :fold:

[Josh-]

AMD Athlon XP1900+
I'd have to open my case up if you need to see anything else..

[Josh-]

By the way, expect 3 more folding comps coming soon.

[profdlp]

AMD Athlon XP1900+
I'd have to open my case up if you need to see anything else..
No need. With Folding, CPU speed is the king.

Here's some advice from csimon (see Team 93 standings!) that I have followed religiously:

any amd capable of sse should benefit from this -forcesse flag somewhat when it comes to increasing perfomance ...stability may be somewhat jeopardized but you can get over that with cooling techniques.

prof this is what I recommend to you ...take the system with the coolest cpu/sys temp and start with that one ...run the -advmethods and -forcesse flags.
Check the fahlog.txt often or monitor with EMIII for a few wu's until you feel confident that f@H is running stable.

Mostly what you are concerned with is the temps under load. If you begin to have problems the wu will cease part way with a return of a partial wu usually and begin a new one (sometimes it will even fold most of the way like 88% or something).
At this point try to lower the cpu temp by cutting back as little as 1 mhz on the fsb and try again ...if you can drop the vcore a notch this also helps a lot. At this point it becomes a balance between f@h stability and cpu/system stability.

An example ...I was running my system stable 2.55ghz/442 2.0v ...the ambient temps began to get warm last week and f@h4 started killing wu's and sending them back and getting new ones. Sometimes the wu's would finish 1 step or 2 or even 35 or 60 ...just depending on when/how/why the temps increased beyond the breaking point.
So ...after a few days of no -forcesse I decided to cool the system down a bit by lowering to 2.54ghz/440 1.95v (also I increased my hsf fan rpm from 5000 to 5400) and viola ...that's where I am now.
Now granted this will probably not be sufficient enough to take care of the summer temps but I will cross that bridge when I get to it ...but for now I game and surf etc . and the warmest my cpu temp has gotten is 51C since.

Good luck!
csimon

edit:\ your success/failure temps may vary.
also ...I am not teh uber cooling expert ...you may want consult others more advanced in that arena ...I usually tend to slap a big loud fan and copper fins on it w/ AS#!!!


Bottom line: try adding these tags to the shortcut in your startup folder:

-forcesse
-advmethods

Note: There is a space before the "-" in each

I did this to all my XP rigs and saw my production go up substantially (sorry, Leonardo!)

[GnomeWizardd]

[03:25:13] - Ask before connecting: No
[03:25:13] - User name: Angel_Heather (Team 93)
[03:25:13] - User ID = 5563CCE250AE8397
[03:25:13] - Machine ID: 1
[03:25:13]
[03:25:13] Loaded queue successfully.
[03:25:13] Initialization complete
[03:25:13] + Benchmarking ...
[03:25:17]
[03:25:17] + Processing work unit
[03:25:17] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[03:25:17] Core found.
[03:25:17] Working on Unit 07 [December 25 03:25:17]
[03:25:17] + Working ...
[03:25:17] + Working...
[03:25:18]
[03:25:18] *------------------------------*
[03:25:18] Folding@home Gromacs Core
[03:25:18] Version 1.54 (November 26, 2003)
[03:25:18]
[03:25:18] Preparing to commence simulation
[03:25:18] - User disabled assembly optimizations.
[03:25:18] - Files status OK
[03:25:18] - Expanded 375813 -> 1853469 (decompressed 493.1 percent)
[03:25:18]
[03:25:18] Project: 846 (Run 7, Clone 110, Gen 5)
[03:25:18]
[03:25:18] Entering M.D.
[03:25:38] (Starting from checkpoint)
[03:25:38] Protein: p846_p53dimer846
[03:25:38]
[03:25:38] Writing local files
[03:25:38] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps (5)


I take it as i dont have it on! how do i change that?

[profdlp]

I take it as i dont have it on! how do i change that?
Read the end of my last post! :wave:

[csimon]

gnome the very next line is where you should see either extra sse boost or extra 3dnow boost.
which client are you running?

[GnomeWizardd]

4.00 pre 2

[GnomeWizardd]

w00t! got it! Had to uncheck Disable Optimized code or sumthing like that!




[23:21:03] - Ask before connecting: No
[23:21:03] - User name: Angel_Heather (Team 93)
[23:21:03] - User ID = 5563CCE250AE8397
[23:21:03] - Machine ID: 1
[23:21:03]
[23:21:03] Loaded queue successfully.
[23:21:03] Initialization complete
[23:21:03] + Benchmarking ...
[23:21:06]
[23:21:06] + Processing work unit
[23:21:06] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[23:21:06] Core found.
[23:21:06] Working on Unit 09 [December 27 23:21:06]
[23:21:06] + Working ...
[23:21:06] + Working...
[23:21:06]
[23:21:06] *------------------------------*
[23:21:06] Folding@home Gromacs Core
[23:21:06] Version 1.54 (November 26, 2003)
[23:21:06]
[23:21:06] Preparing to commence simulation
[23:21:06] - Looking at optimizations...
[23:21:06] - Files status OK
[23:21:06] - Expanded 376434 -> 1855141 (decompressed 492.8 percent)
[23:21:06]
[23:21:06] Project: 850 (Run 6, Clone 77, Gen 6)
[23:21:06]
[23:21:06] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[23:21:06] Entering M.D.
[23:21:26] (Starting from checkpoint)
[23:21:26] Protein: p850_p53dimer850
[23:21:26]
[23:21:26] Writing local files
[23:21:26] Completed 90000 out of 500000 steps (18)
[23:21:27] Extra 3DNow boost OK.

[csimon]

gui or console? start by dloading the final Fah4Console.exe. Replace the Rerelease 2 beta

[csimon]

does your shortcut look simular to this?

[mmonnin]

The end should be -forcesse.

[Josh-]

19% now

[csimon]

hmmm ...josh that's 2% in 1.5 hours ...you can speed that up you know. If you want to I mean. Since you're not overclocking it should be very safe.
I'll help you if you like let me know k?

[Josh-]

20 % now :) I'll just take it nice and slow for a while since I just started.

[csimon]

okie doke! :thumbsup: :fold:

[GnomeWizardd]

Josh what is the wu size?? might be a biggin that takes a bit !

[csimon]

gnome did you set -forcesse yet?

[Josh-]

uummm..this one is 2.5k..its at 22% now.

[Josh-]

31 percent - 775 / 2500 :D