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Buddy J
21 Jan 2009, 10:40pm
The Escapist did an article on TF2 that details some of the upcoming changes for this year. There's a lot in this piece to sift through so I figured it'd be worth sharing:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_185/5668-Storming-the-Fortress

Thoughts?
Snarkasm
21 Jan 2009, 10:54pm
Additionally, Walker feels the Engineer's sentry guns have become "too binary." They're highly lethal to some players and wholly ineffective against others. Sentry guns are also easily dispatched by skilled players, leaving Engineers with little recourse.

<-- is very excited about the prospect of interesting sentry gun updates. :D
NiGHTS
21 Jan 2009, 10:57pm
Escapist has something else to offer other than Yahtzee?

Valve's certainly found something that works, they just have to keep the ball rolling. I know firsthand that diving into the community and asking for help will give you some great ideas, but also bog you down the constant bickering and abuse to changes that weren't as welcome.

The problem of being spread too thin between projects also is a bit concerning. It'll be interesting to see of the quality of the work stays the same. I doubt it would change, but the "listening" period might, given increased workload on their end for these side projects.
Buddy J
22 Jan 2009, 4:17pm
What stood out to me the most from the article was the suggestion that Spy disguises had run their course so they're looking at ways to fix the issue, and that they're looking at making sometimes unpopular changes to test the community reaction. That's ballsy stuff.
QCH
22 Jan 2009, 5:40pm
Spy disguises have run there course? Yeah right... I still get ganked several times a game assuming the spy is good and the game is intense. When the game is slow paced and crappy spies, then yes spies are not as powerful.
Koreish
22 Jan 2009, 6:02pm
Hmmm... I wonder how they're going to change the sentry and disguises. Guess we'll just have to wait for those class packs.
QCH
22 Jan 2009, 7:25pm
A spy that Looks like a Sentry? ;D
NiGHTS
22 Jan 2009, 7:44pm
...I seemed to have missed the third page, that is interesting to hear.

SENTRY'S SAPPIN MY SPY!
CB
22 Jan 2009, 7:52pm
Spy disguises have run there course? Yeah right... I still get ganked several times a game assuming the spy is good and the game is intense. When the game is slow paced and crappy spies, then yes spies are not as powerful.

I think that's what they mean, when they say it's run it's course. Everyone has either mastered the spy or given up on it, so it's time for him to do something else.
Snarkasm
22 Jan 2009, 7:58pm
It'll be great to see CB's branching idea come to life with the sentry updates. Wouldn't be surprised if they added the ability to expand it's range with another 200 metal or pop up a shield with another 200. Could be cool stuff coming. The engi in me is excited.
primesuspect
22 Jan 2009, 8:01pm
Go ahead, underestimate us :ninja:

/me stabs
NiGHTS
22 Jan 2009, 8:07pm
Go ahead, underestimate us :ninja:

* primesuspect stabs

A medic is a spy's worst enemy.
UPSWeezer
22 Jan 2009, 11:32pm
They obviously haven't played against me...
Canti
23 Jan 2009, 1:50pm
The sentry gun upgrade branching idea is probably the most interesting I've heard but I can see that causing serious problems when trying to counter multiple sentries with an uber charge.
QCH
23 Jan 2009, 4:48pm
A shield sentry next to a long range sentry... Think of a sentry that is not as fast but more lethal and longer range. Uber rush will need to be better planned...
primesuspect
23 Jan 2009, 4:51pm
imagine, if you will, a world in which a sniper sentry exists

Go ahead, I'll wait.
Buddy J
23 Jan 2009, 8:46pm
Imagine, if you will, a world in which a half-range, double-damage sentry exists.
Black Hawk
23 Jan 2009, 8:55pm
I want a flamethrower sentry.
Thrax
23 Jan 2009, 9:43pm
Imagine, if you will, a Spy that doesn't bleed and stabs with a poison-tipped dagger.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
Koreish
23 Jan 2009, 9:52pm
Imagine, if you will, a world with out TF2.

I think I can hear Prime crying.
TiberiusLazarus
23 Jan 2009, 10:28pm
Imagine, if you will, Tf2 tower defense. Red has different types of sentries. Blu must get through the maze.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
Black Hawk
23 Jan 2009, 11:55pm
Imagine, if you will, boobs.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
CB
24 Jan 2009, 1:06am
Imagine if you will [this space reserved for when I think of something clever].

Go ahead, I'll wait.
NiGHTS
24 Jan 2009, 10:21am
Imagi C-C-C-Combo Breaker
Koreish
24 Jan 2009, 5:21pm
Imagine, if you will, Tf2 tower defense. Red has different types of sentries. Blu must get through the maze.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

You and I had a lengthy discussion about this once. Why?
TiberiusLazarus
24 Jan 2009, 5:27pm
You and I had a lengthy discussion about this once. Why?

Why not?

Besides, TD plus TF2. Come on.
natravis
27 Jan 2009, 1:20am
Imagi C-C-C-Combo Breaker
Win! I'm adding TF2 server to my list now! Hopefully I'll see some of you on tonight. I'm going to change my name when I get a chance