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Komete
17 Jun 2009, 1:06am
I'm guessing the standard web page was designed around a standard 8.5x11 piece of paper, which was great for older 5:4 aspect ratio monitors that displayed 1024x768 and 800x600 resolutions, but the day of the 16:10 and 16:9 widescreen LCD has come. Isn't it about time we start to see web pages designed to take advantage of the wider field of view?

11-8 is what we need. Turn that 8.5x11 web page sideways and run it down.

If anyone is aware of any websites that take advantage of 16:9 or 10 displays I'd love to see a link.

RyderOCZ
17 Jun 2009, 2:10am
The problem being, that (Lincoln will correct me) I would say 64 - 72% of the users who hit web pages are still on 1024 * 768.

Things like Google Analytics actually show those numbers to the sites, which means they optimize for the biggest audience.

Now, just barely a year ago, I bet that it was 800 * 600, so things are getting better, but it is going to take time.

Thrax
17 Jun 2009, 2:13am
The W3C says that slightly over half the internet uses >1024x768, but that means that almost half uses 1024x768 or less.

Thanks corporate America!

Lincoln
17 Jun 2009, 2:55am
The problem is that as desktop screens are getting larger, mobile devices are skyrocketing in popularity. Designing for a huge array of screen sizes is really challenging.

Icrontic's fairly tech savvy audience (top 10 sizes by width):
800x600 1.99%
1024x768 21.87%

1152x864 2.40%
1280x1024 18.40%
1280x800 14.40%

1440x900 9.66%

1600x1200 1.57%
1680x1050 12.23%

1920x1200 5.42%
1920x1080 1.84%


So ~25% of our audience is at 1024 or lower, and 55% are at 1280 or less. And, notice, that the above only covers 90% of our audience. The last 10% is stretched across over 400 different screen sizes in a fantastically long tail that is all over the map - 300 pixels to 3840.

Komete
17 Jun 2009, 2:57am
Yea but there still a large market of wide screen home and laptop users and as far as I know there isn't a single home page or tech site that takes advantage of this large group. Could you imagine the advertising revenues if you ran a msn/yahoo homepage type site that was geared towards wide screen lcd's? There's no competition. It also doesn't have to use every inch of a 1600x1200 res display. The margins just need to be widen by 25% or so.

One of you get rich quick smarty pants need to get up and do it so I don't have to look at wide stretches of blank borders :)

Snarkasm
17 Jun 2009, 4:19am
Yes, because exactly what we need are flashing ads flanking both edges of the screen.

No, thanks. I'll take a page designed for 800x600 over all my space being swamped with ads. What's wrong with a little blank here and there? It's serenity.

Komete
17 Jun 2009, 5:28am
Yes, because exactly what we need are flashing ads flanking both edges of the screen.

No, thanks. I'll take a page designed for 800x600 over all my space being swamped with ads. What's wrong with a little blank here and there? It's serenity.

No, I didn't mean that at all. I'm pointing out that it is a huge untapped market. Same amount of ads as a normal web page just have the information rearranged to take advantage of a wider display. You wouldn't be courting the world, just the mega millions that use widescreens.

It also would fit the way we scan a page or a display. When you first observe something you don't go from top to bottom. It's a triangular pattern. It actually would probably end up being more comfortable. Also less scrolling, less searching, and quicker access to information. If you maximized a webpage on a widescreen now, one to two eye movements are wasted on dead space. ANd you probably would observe that dead space several times a minute unintentionally.

kryyst
17 Jun 2009, 2:55pm
I'll take a smaller page because while I run at a higher resolution generally speaking my browser isn't in full screen mode it's windowed and only taking up part of the screen for the majority of the time.

CB
17 Jun 2009, 3:14pm
Same as kryyst, I never maximize my browser on my widescreen monitor. I leave a few inches on the side for other things, like IRC. There is no way to tell how popular that is, I think.

Thrax
17 Jun 2009, 3:16pm
I cannot even recall the last time I didn't leave my browser maximized.

RyderOCZ
17 Jun 2009, 3:34pm
I'll take a smaller page because while I run at a higher resolution generally speaking my browser isn't in full screen mode it's windowed and only taking up part of the screen for the majority of the time.Ditto. I keep icons, txt files, etc that I use in email and forum posts to the left and right of my browser.

Annes
17 Jun 2009, 3:39pm
I cannot even recall the last time I didn't leave my browser maximized.

Same here. For all other things I use a second monitor.

Thrax
17 Jun 2009, 3:41pm
Even when I was on a single monitor, relevant information is a keystroke away (thanks launchy).

Hawk
17 Jun 2009, 3:55pm
I just use the Ctrl+ / Ctrl- in Firefox to size the window to my liking if I want to read, or if I want the site/page to fill the screen for any reason.
Other than that I leave it windowed also to see other programs on the side.