Why Bing sucks

[primesuspect]

None of these companies get it. Whenever a new search engine appears, they have one chance to impress me. If they fail on that first try, why would I switch from Google?. Google works....

Case in point:

Google Image Search on my name:

http://icrontic.com/images/GIS_bambrozy.jpg

Relevant; I appear several times in there. The first result is a picture of me. It works.

Now, Bing:

http://icrontic.com/images/BING_bambrozy.jpg

In the entire search, I do not appear anywhere. In fact, several pictures are of people that are a) not me and b) photographs that I didn't take.

The little girl in the tree? I didn't take that photo, yet Bing attributes it to me. If you click through, you WILL see a photo that I took, and it IS attributed to me, but Bing somehow screws that up.

Bing? You have failed to impress me. You ruined your chance.

[Thrax]

http://icrontic.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27657&stc=1&d=1255902479

[shwaip]

Bing travel is awesome.

[primesuspect]

EXACTLY, Thrax. I DIDN'T TAKE THAT PHOTO. It's brilliant! :rolleyes:

[Thrax]

Newsflash: You're not the only Brian Ambrozy.

[Gnome Queen]

I don't know what yal are talking about. I love using bing to google things. It's great for googling.

[Gnome Queen]

Newsflash: You're not the only Brian Ambrozy.

That picture is from a page in which the photo above the one on bing is actually from Brian. This photo is credited to a woman.

[Thrax]

(Ironically, when I first went to load bing, I entered "bing.google.com" into my address bar. Heh).

[Thrax]

That picture is from a page in which the photo above the one on bing is actually from Brian. This photo is credited to a woman.

Yes, I know. However I am simply saying that there are other people named Brian Ambrozy that are taking pictures. Clicking on any of the pictures on the Bing results clearly indicates that.

[Gnome Queen]

Yes, I know. However I am simply saying that there are other people named Brian Ambrozy that are taking pictures. Clicking on any of the pictures on the Bing results clearly indicates that.

No. There can be only one.

[j]

I wasn't know you were the ONLY Brian Ambrozy in the world. Your right why doesn't the search engine know you personally.

Since I'm a guy who says stupid shit sometimes...I can recognize this is pretty dumb.

[primesuspect]

Show me another photograph taken by a different Brian Ambrozy.

There aren't any.

[primesuspect]

here's the thing: Each image on that page can be somehow traced to me; but it is not the MOST RELEVANT THING.

Either my name appears on a page with the image in question, or it is a picture I am loosely related to, such as Popcap images of Zuma's Revenge.

Point being: They are NOT USEFUL RESULTS.

It doesn't MATTER if I'm the only Brian Ambrozy in the world; what MATTERS is that Google gives me RELEVANT results and Bing does not.

[j]

If I'm looking up Brian Ambrozy on the internet I'm not looking for relevance. I'm just bored...lol

[primesuspect]

http://icrontic.com/images/photo_by_wendy.jpg

[Gargoyle]

I see Google has a much higher Brian Ambrozy Index™ (BAI).

While I initially was cynical about "hey guys, I can't Bing myself nearly as well as I can Google myself," you're right. Google's results make more sense.

[j]

Fried spaghetti makes Prime go crazy

[primesuspect]

Yeah, trust me, this is not about me; I'm simply using myself as an example.

The Bing results are not nearly as relevant as the Google results. Don't get fixated on the fact that I searched for myself.

[j]

Perhaps the reason Google gives better results is because you have a business connection with them. I search my name and the relevance is similar.

I asked a little baby about Brian Ambrozy and it said nothing...because it's a baby. Conclusion...don't use babies for internet searches. Use Google it's better

[ardichoke]

Wow... Your assessment of Bing is spot on there Brian. I just did the same experiment with my name. The first results on Google were My facebook picture, my twitter avatar, my myspace picture, a couple related twitter pictures, my last.fm picture then it went to other, somewhat related pictures. The Bing results? Some pictures of various buildings in Las Vegas, a high school football team photo (someone with a similar, but not the same, name was on the team) some random female from Facebook... pretty much totally unrelated. That's enough proof to me that I don't need to switch to Bing.

[TiberiusLazarus]

When google goes sentient, maybe we'll look back on this thread and think 'Man, if I had only switched to Bing....'

[GnomeWizardd]

Searched on bing and google for me, found 1 pic on each different pics but only 1 on each.

[Cliff_Forster]

Prime, I find much the same thing on the search algorythem. Google's is obviously a bit more refined.

I will say two things for bing that I do enjoy. One, the video search (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=radeon+5870&FORM=BVFD#)UI is epic. Being able to mouse over and get a preview, huge improvement when looking for online video.

Also, the map service attached to bing, I think its more detailed and actualy turns up better details than Google maps and mapquest. Its my new go to for an online map service.

All and all your right about the search algorythem, it fails to return results that are as relavent as Googles, but if your searching for video, or need to print a map, give bing a 2nd chance on those items, see what you think.

[jared]

I know at least 3 developers who bailed on Google maps and re-worked their web apps using the bing/ms maps. They said the maps/api are fantastic. Haven't messed with it myself though.

[UPSLynx]

bing has incredible photography for their design layout.

that's the only part I enjoy.

[Annes]

Bing travel is awesome.

Truth. Only reason I ever go to Bing.

[bindlestick]

http://icrontic.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27659&stc=1&d=1255959995

[Snarkasm]

I like this game, and I think I win -

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/928390/Snarkasm%20-%20Bing%20Images%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png

[WagsFTW]

When I did a search for my username on both bing and google, they showed up similar results. It's the image search that blows me away. Bing only had one image of me (an old one with Andrew) and Google found a lot (most from my flickr site).

Very interesting.

[_k_]

I am jumping on the boat here. Apparently it excludes _ . When I search for _k_ it apparently only searches for k, so it won't pull up my IC profile in bing unless I search for my aim SN.

And I found out something sucky, my Hardforum profile is returned in a higher position in the google search than IC

[ardichoke]

Google even wins the battle of my username. Bing seems to assume I'm just misspelling a search for the vegetable whereas Google asks me if I am but gives me results for my username.

[FelixDeSouze]

Google ftw, I've never even used Bing apart from a fresh install tried to force me to use it... so I Binged 'google' and proceeded ;)

[Cliff_Forster]

Google ftw, I've never even used Bing apart from a fresh install tried to force me to use it... so I Binged 'google' and proceeded ;)

I think that mentality is dangerous. If someone else did effectively innovate, how would you ever know? You gotta dabble in different things from time to time, give it a fair shot you know? Right now I am trying IE8 on my new windows 7 install, I can't say I'm in love with it, I'm really missing firefox and chrome, but it deserves a look just like bing does. I'm not saying bing is a great search engine in comparison to google, but it does do some things well in its UI and like I said I think bing maps beats googles tool, its doing some things right and you owe it to yourself just to poke around there a little bit.

My massive dependance on Google for all my online services is actualy starting to alarm me. One company, all that share, its bad for long term innovation when other companies don't even get a fair shake because of Googles dominance. It's like Windows, its the accepted standard to the point that nobody even dares to compete with them and while I love what Microsoft has done with Windows 7, I think the world would be better off with more realistic alternatives to choose from. I don't want a web services landscape with only one significant player, it may seem great right now but long term, maybe not so much?

[Kwitko]

I asked a little baby about Brian Ambrozy and it said nothing...because it's a baby. Conclusion...don't use babies for internet searches. Use Google it's better

If someone wanted to know what specious reasoning was, here's a perfect example.

[Lincoln]

My massive dependance on Google for all my online services is actualy starting to alarm me.I read an article on Wired yesterday that estimated that Google accounts for 10% of all Internet traffic.
it may seem great right now but long term, maybe not so much?Long term? On the Internet? How long exactly do you think it would take to move to different email/RSS/search/news/map/docs/video services? Maybe a full day on the outside? On top of that, Google has a special department that continues to improve how easily you can cart your info out of Google apps.

Is it stranger to trust 1 company with all that data, or to trust so many small companies with pieces of it?

[Cliff_Forster]

I read an article on Wired yesterday that estimated that Google accounts for 10% of all Internet traffic.
Long term? On the Internet? How long exactly do you think it would take to move to different email/RSS/search/news/map/docs/video services? Maybe a full day on the outside? On top of that, Google has a special department that continues to improve how easily you can cart your info out of Google apps.

Is it stranger to trust 1 company with all that data, or to trust so many small companies with pieces of it?

I don't think its strange that you trust them, or wrong that you do, I just think everyone should keep an open mind to other options that are available, thats all.

[ardichoke]

If someone wanted to know what specious reasoning was, here's a perfect example.
Or perhaps sarcasm?

[Kwitko]

Jeff doesn't know sarcasm. Everything he says is sarcastic to others, yet perfectly logical in his head.

[Snarkasm]

It was 6%, Linc - and even that blows everybody else out of the water.