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SM-Bot
31 Jan 2004, 1:27am
Scientists said on Wednesday they had created a new form of matter and predicted it could help lead to the next generation of superconductors for use in electricity generation, more efficient trains and countless other applications. Which would be nice...
The new matter form is called a fermionic condensate and it is the sixth known form of matter -- after gases, solids, liquids, plasma and a Bose-Einstein condensate, created only in 1995.
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primesuspect
31 Jan 2004, 1:31am
The cool thing about fermionic condensates is that theoretically they can be used at normal room temperatures, which actually WILL open the floodgates for a new industrial revolution, as realistic superconductors will finally be possible. Imagine lossless power transmission! omg!
kanezfan
31 Jan 2004, 5:30am
/me wants a lightsaber
It's currently possible. The downside is that they explode in 10 seconds and decimate a 10 x 10 room. :)
Geeky1
31 Jan 2004, 5:46am
prime, f**k lossless power transmission, imagine the other possibilities of room-temperature superconductors, like insanely low latency CPU <--> RAM interfaces. :D
primesuspect
31 Jan 2004, 5:49am
Right, exactly... Lossless power transmission.
Geeky1
31 Jan 2004, 6:05am
No! That's data transmission, not power transmission. duh :crazy: :D
(I was thinking "power transmission" as in like, from power plants to substations and such)
primesuspect
31 Jan 2004, 6:06am
different scale, same concept :crazy:
KingFish
31 Jan 2004, 6:40am
I hope this makes the price of gas lower soon too.
KingFish
primesuspect
31 Jan 2004, 7:24am
Now if I could get an herbal viagra patch, soma pills, 2.75% interest rate mortgage, be hung like a porn star, and keep my computer safe frO!m malishis sofrwar!es then I would be so happy... :D
/me goes to check my email for the latest superconductor spam
Black Hawk
31 Jan 2004, 7:56am
Too much info... :zombie:
Straight_Man
31 Jan 2004, 4:02pm
Zero resistance means less power needed AND faster movement. Faster movement means things can be done faster. That is why folks were earlier looking at laser light transmission for whole computers, and why TI developed a mirrored graphics processor that is popular in higher end projectors these days.
Latency (expressed as time) is how long it takes for signal to get from one end of data pipe to another. Resistance describes how hard it is to push a signal through a material. No resistance, signal can get where it needs to with less energy needed to make and keep signal going and much faster.
Problem then becomes directing the signal so it does not spred throughout a large area and become a noisy field effect instead of a pointed(aka aimed precisely) signal.
So, lets combine the two-- focused light and small pipes of low-resistance material states. This would result in a very low resistance advance on fiber-optic cable used now. Each fiber strand has a coating that reflects the slight spread of laser light back into pipe, less signal loss over longer distances, but it costs a lot to build fiber right and meld it to join right, and generate laser pulses. I suspect keeping the new material state stable and piping it safely will take a while.
John.
mmonnin
31 Jan 2004, 5:05pm
Lossless power is impossible! NOTHING has 100% effiency. Nothing. Somewhere there is some sound/light/heat/friction created that transfers some energy to another form.
panzerkw
31 Jan 2004, 8:28pm
Superconductor - A substance that has no resistance to conducting an electric current
mmonnin
1 Feb 2004, 1:25am
And we would have to use LN to get it to work too.
panzerkw
1 Feb 2004, 1:26am
That's what's so great about the new matter...that it can achieve superconductivity at room temperatures
I may be off base here, but iirc, one of the major barriers to the creation of nuclear fusion reactors that can sustain a reaction for any length of time has been the lack of room-temperature superconductive materials. Am I remembering that right?
panzerkw
1 Feb 2004, 2:06am
The temperatures needed to create a fusion reaction are in the millions of degrees. Since no material can survive in those temperatures, the reacting substances have to be held in suspension by a magnetic field. Right now it takes a lot more energy to maintain the field than the amount of work created by the reaction. Room temperature superconducting magnets, if such a thing could exist, might be helpful I guess...
* kanezfan wants a lightsaber
I got dibs on the next one!
Norge
kanezfan
1 Feb 2004, 4:57pm
i mean really, if they did invent one somehow, don't you think they (the inventors) would be instant millionaires as all us guys rush out to buy one? granted they'd probably have to make them be less powerful so that they don't cut us up on contact, but man that would pwn to have one.
one thing I've always wanted to do is become proficient in martial arts so that I can learn how to fight with a samurai sword. that would pwn everything.
mmonnin
1 Feb 2004, 5:39pm
I would pay a pretty penny to have one. Millionairs they would be.
a2jfreak
1 Feb 2004, 10:22pm
Shouldn't that be:
Pretty penny would I pay to one have. Millionaires would be they.
I would pay a pretty penny to have one. Millionairs they would be.
Pay a pretty penny to have one, I would. Millionaires would they be. mmm. yeeees.
Gobbles
2 Feb 2004, 6:55pm
Is this the line for the Lightsabers... I want one... Of course the medical industry will boom with release of lightsabers to the public... I know for sure ill be in getting my arms reattached at one point or another... ;p
Gobbles
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