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blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
I'm about purchasing a Swiftech MCX604-V. I was wondering, is it the same with MCX603-V? If someone can help , let me know.
I have found this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6776946140
drasnor
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drasnor
2,287 Posts
I ended up using a pair of Swiftech MCX-462+ heatsinks that were originally designed to mount thru-board on single-processor Socket A (Athlon) systems. However, I noticed that the design of the MCX-462+ was identical to the MCX-603 (a thru-board Socket603/604 Xeon heatsink) so I modified a pair of mounts for the MCX-603 to fit on my MCX-462+ because that was cheaper than buying MCX-603s, then modified the mount hardware to be compatible with the metric threads on the Master2-FAR's retention mechanism.

-drasnor
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geerten
Getting settled in
geerten
8 Posts

degraded cooling

I've been using this board for over a year now, quite happy with it, but recently a noticed a degradation in the cooling performance.
The setup: 2 x Opteron 246 CPU, heatsinks that came with the board, but I replaced the fans (less noisy).
The symptoms: with this setup the CPU-temperatures used to go up and down immediately with the CPU load, but now it goes up much slower and never down at all. Also, even when idling the temps keep rising slowly until they stabilize at about 5deg (Celsius) higher then what used to be the peek temp before.
My first diagnosis was the thermal paste going bad, so I took it to a shop to have the heatsinks removed and new paste applied. The guy confirmed that the old compound looked dried out, and he replaced it, but it only marginally improved the cooling, not nearly like what it used to be.
So either my diagnosis was wrong, or the diagnosis was right but the solution was wrong.
I'd really appreciate any help here: right now I dare not run my computer for a prolonged time, or run anything heavy on the CPU's without monitoring the temps all the time..
drasnor
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drasnor
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Your man might have used cheap thermal paste though I'm not sure if that makes a 5 C difference. Check and see if the heatsink vents are clogged with dust bunnies. What are the actual load and idle temps?

-drasnor
seaharrior
New to the neighborhood
seaharrior
1 Posts
Hello All,

I just came across this thread today. I wish I had seen it before when I was looking for cooling solutions for my MSI.Yes the Fans have real Loud Noise, could make people crazy if they use computer for long time. Anyways, when i could not find anything to replace orignal fans.. I got an idea and thried this.

I replaced the MSI fan with the AMD's Orignal fan that came with the FX51 processor. Initially when I had FX51, I removed the orignal AMD fan and replaced it with thermaltake so I had the spare. I just removed the AMD factory orignal fan and placed it on top of the MSI's heatsink. So far it works like a charm. The sound is completely gone and looks like my computer is working in Stealth mode.

I wanted to get your openion.. if I should contiune using this fan or need to replace.. what do u say? temp in bios is 50 - 51C.

Thanks in advance!
drasnor
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drasnor
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It's a little high for idle temps, but still quite acceptable.

-drasnor
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
I gather that most of the posts in this thread reffer to the K8T Master2 Board. I just purchased the K8N Master2 board. I have not yet received it, but there is no indication that it includes any CPU cooling device. As I understand the K8T did include two rather strange heatsinks with loud fans.

I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with the K8N Master2 FAR Board and would know if it has the same heat sink issues.

The problem described on the thread seem to be caused by the cpu being too close to the video slot. The K8N has 2 PCI-E 16X so if one is not doing SLI perhaps the video board could be placed on the other PCI-E slot. I am attempting to include a picture of the board (don't know if it will work).

From the picture it seems to not include the plastic mounting braclets for the heatsink, so it must mount through the holes on the board.

They also seem to be pushing adding a RAM Cooling fan when getting this board. MSI makes it and mounts to the chassis and hinges over the RAM slots. Is this necessary?

Thanks for any advice.

edit 9-21: The manual for the board says in regards to the cooling of the CPU to go to the AMD WEB site to get their recommendations for this processor. But from what i have read here, the stuff that matches this procesor (Opteron) does not match the hole patter for the heasink on this board. Unles the K8N is different from the K8T, but from the pictures the holes around the processor look to me as if they are in the same location on both boards.

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milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
Update.

I received the board and actually this box (extra large) came with the CPU coolers and the RAM fan also. Too bad I had already purchased new Heatsinks/fans for the CPU. I guess the'll go in the drawer for next project.
drasnor
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drasnor
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I didn't know the K8N was out yet. Nice to hear it came with all that gear, but to answer your question I really doubt the RAM fan is necessary. Every other computer on the planet gets by just fine without one. Tell us about the boxed heatsinks that the K8N comes with. Are they obnoxiously loud, cool well, etc?

-drasnor
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
drasnor,

Thanks for the reply. By looking at the fans that came with the unit they look to be same as the ones on the K8T (a co-worker built one witht he K8T) and i may not be the best person to answer the noise questions as all the systems i have build so far have been noisy for one reason or another, so although they are not quiet, they do not seem extra loud to me. They start loud and then slow down to a quieter mode.

Space for the heatsinks is still at a premium as there are caps around the sockets, and the one next to the video card is still like right on the vidieo card.

The RAM fan is not very large, and probably adds to some of the noise. Does not look all that useful actually, but i put it in anyway

Everything else shuld be about the same, except for the NForce4 instead of Via thing.

Still installing the OS so can't speak about stability and such at the moment.

Update 9/30/05: System is very quick, OS went in fine, but Creative's XFi card messed the whole thing up. From what I have been able to learn is that XFi and NForce4 do not get along until a new BIOS update for the System Board. Not knowing when this will come out, i will try Adigy2 ZS on Monday and hope that fixes the problem. re-installing OS now.

Thanks
blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
Hi all. After some months of achieving my new K8T-Master2-FAR (without socket for 2nd CPU) I have ended up using the ultra-silent Freezer 4 coolers from Arctic Cooling , which are cheap ones (about 22eur in Greece) compared to other silent coolers from Thermaltake that you need to spend the double money in total.
Also, since my motherboard had no CPU adapter in the 2nd CPU position, I had to buy one from a Koolance dealer in my country and 4x3mm screws otherwise you can't install ANY Socket 478 cooler on the 2nd CPU.
Using these coolers, I got temperatures of 50 degrees Celcius using WinXP Pro in idle mode, and about 53 degrees when the CPUs are working 99%.
The "patent" was the following.
Freezer 4s are shipped with fans "looking" inside the case, and not outside, meaning the hot air from the CPU is directed not outside the box. 2 actions needed to be done:
1st. I had to unscrew the 2 basement screws that holding the clips from both the coolers and place the clips upside/down.
2nd. The cooler for the 2nd CPU needed to be moderated, so to not "touching" the circuits side of the VGA card. You will need to trim the fins of the side nearest the VGA card. To do this you will need a paper-cutter or a knife, to make straight lines on each aluminum piece of the cooler and then with the fingertips or needle nose pliers, you move upside/down and is breaks cleanly (remember to not cut the last 4 towards the fan base .

Below is my equipment:

Midi Tower Lian Li V1100 Plus S
Temperatures Monitor Panel 3.5" Lian Li Silver
MSI K8T-Master2-FAR (for dual cpu)
2xAMD Opteron 246 2.0GHz
2xFreezer 4 coolers
MSI FX 5600 XT video card (256mb RAM)
Hercules Prophetview 720 LCD monitor 15"
Western Digital 80GB hard disk SATA1 (8mb cache) for C drive
Maxtor 6 L300S0 300GB hard disk SATA1 (16mb cache) for D drive
Plextor PX-716A DVDR
NEC ND-3540 DVDR
Creative X-Fi Fatality
PSU Thermaltake 600W ultra-silent

I'm using the Speedfan program for monitoring the temperatures of the system. Witht the current system, I'm having the following temperatures (in celcius, room temp.was 22 degrees):
CPU1: 50
CPU2: 52
System: 40
ACPI: 40
Video CPU: 45
Video ram: 26
HD1: 25
HD2: 25

Conclusions:
1.MSI Master2-FAR will use ANY cooler for socket 478 (Pentium 4). U can use large ones if you are using single CPU version and up to 70mm if you want to use dual cpu.
2.I am fully suggesting the Freezer 4 coolers to everyone is using the current motherboard, they are cheap and effective (coolers needs to be moderated first). If we want to over-clock the processors, then Freezer 4 are useless. I am happy with them because they are very silent and effective. And silence is what matters the most in such machines used 24/7 inside our homes.

I got the idea from another user from the same forum about the Freezer 4 coolers, but that guy didn't switched the fans to blow on the outter side of the case, so it's useless, cause using them like they are shipped from the factory, you'll get temperatures of 60-63 degrees celsius.

Any questions are welcome .


mrdollar
New to the neighborhood
mrdollar
1 Posts
Can you use one single FX-53 processor with this board (K8N Master2)? Will it run with just one processor?
blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
Please click on the following MSI link for more details and click the QVL link.
The FX 53 is supported only by K8T-Master2FAR mobo (which I am using) and not from the K8N-Master2FAR
I see no reason of buying the K8N, it's almost the same price, but dual CPU is much much better, I suggest you to buy 2 used Opterons of any speed from eBay. It's big difference. I have tested dual core and I can say FX sucks compared to 2 Opterons (any of them above 246)
drasnor
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drasnor
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Can you use one single FX-53 processor with this board (K8N Master2)? Will it run with just one processor?
You can run it with a single FX-53 if you want, just make sure you put it in the CPU0 socket or it won't boot.

Blueox: there are lots of reasons why he might want to run a single FX and not dual Opterons, like this is the only readily available cheap 940 board left and he might already have an FX.

-drasnor
blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
The K8N can run only one CPU, choosen from the supported CPUs at MSI's K8N webpage, which does not mention AMD FX. Nobody told it can't run single one, just that 2 CPUs are more fast.
Supported CPUs for K8N-Master2FAR (According to MSI's website):
Vendor Description Frequency
AMD Opteron Dual-Core 280 2.4GHz
AMD Opteron Dual-Core 275 2.2GHz
AMD Opteron Dual-Core 270 2.0GHz
AMD Opteron Dual-Core 265 1.8GHz
AMD Opteron Dual-Core 265HE 1.8GHz
AMD Opteron Dual-Core 260HE 1.6GHz
AMD Opteron 254 2.8GHz
AMD Opteron 252 2.6GHz
AMD Opteron 250 2.4GHz
AMD Opteron 248 2.2GHz
AMD Opteron 246 2.0GHz
AMD Opteron 244 1.8GHz
AMD Opteron 242 1.6GHz
AMD Opteron 240 1.4GHz
AMD Opteron 246HE 2.0GHz
AMD Opteron 240EE 1.4GHz
AMD Opteron 150 2.4GHz
AMD Opteron 148 2.2GHz
AMD Opteron 146 2.0GHz
AMD Opteron 144 1.8GHz
AMD Opteron 142 1.6GHz
AMD Opteron 140 1.4GHz
AMD Opteron 146HE 2.0GHz
AMD Opteron 140EE 1.4GHz

Meaning, K8N will run only Opterons.
drasnor
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I missed he was asking about the K8N Master2-FAR. Thought he was referring to the K8T. I'll bet the K8N will run those old FX chips as well but MSI has been historically slow about actually writing down support for anything. Worst comes to worst you can always return your board. If you're looking for a single 940 board though Foxconn makes a really nice one that I've worked with: http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...NFPIK8AA-8EKRS

Newegg used to sell it but I'm sure you'll be able to find someone else that has it.

-drasnor
Donut
Veteran Icrontian
Donut
1,779 Posts
I realize this is kind of an old thread, but I found some boards on E-Bay relatively cheap and was wondering if there is an AGP/Pci lock when you try to overclock it. 2CPU has a rather large thread on this board but I'm just to lazy to read it all.
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nicklogan
Getting settled in
nicklogan
9 Posts
I got the idea from another user from the same forum about the Freezer 4 coolers, but that guy didn't switched the fans to blow on the outter side of the case, so it's useless, cause using them like they are shipped from the factory, you'll get temperatures of 60-63 degrees celsius.

blueox,
Although it's not visible in the pictures I posted, there is a fan mounted on the side case cover which blows air out from directly above the Freezer4 fan exhaust area. I found this to work better than blowing the air against the back of the case.

nicklogan

http://www.short-media.com/forum/att...3&d=1119031663
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
I like the idea, kind of reversing the air flow. but if I may ask a stupid question, are you using the standard mounting clips that come on the board?
After so many months with this unit, the noise of the CPU coolers is realy getting annoying, so i am ready to try something different.
nicklogan
Getting settled in
nicklogan
9 Posts
I like the idea, kind of reversing the air flow. but if I may ask a stupid question, are you using the standard mounting clips that come on the board?
After so many months with this unit, the noise of the CPU coolers is realy getting annoying, so i am ready to try something different.
I bought new heat sink mounts from Koolance. See the link at the original post here:

http://www.short-media.com/forum/sho...9&postcount=97
nicklogan
Getting settled in
nicklogan
9 Posts
I bought new heat sink mounts from Koolance. See the link at the original post here:

http://www.short-media.com/forum/sho...9&postcount=97
EDIT 3/29/06 To clarify, I only had to get one set of clips - one of the original heat sink mounts was ok.
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
Thanks, that means I can use the originals on my board since it had both of them.
RTLdan
New to the neighborhood
RTLdan
3 Posts
Hello,
I'm a newbie when it comes to building computers. I built my first computer ever a few months ago, but the noise has been driving me insane - especially since I built this to be an audio workstation!

Basically, if possible, I would like to replace ONLY the fan, and leave the heatsink that came with the board on. So here are my couple of questions:

*Does the heatsink have anything to do wih the noise besides keeping temperatures low for the fan?

*What size fans fit best on the stock heatsinks?

*Is there a particular fan that works exceptionally well at keeping noise down and keeping things cool?

I've read the whole thread a few times, and have found a lot of helpful information. Thank you everyone who has been helping for so long!

Thanks in advance,
-Daniel Rheaume

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My system
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MSI K8T-Master 2 Far
(x1) Opteron 246
1gb Samsung Registered RAM
Rackmount Case (built by someone online - don't know the brand)
(x2) 200 GB Seagate Hard Drive
ATI Radeon 9000
drasnor
124 Golden Eye Drive
drasnor
2,287 Posts
If you have two matched stock heatsinks, they both take 70mm x 15mm fans. You can find these at various places online, try http://www.svc.com or http://www.newegg.com. If you have one of the offset heatsinks, it takes 60mm fans. You can verify this by measuring the edge with a ruler.

70mm is an oddball size halfway between the extremely common 60mm and 80mm sizes. As far as brand goes, I can't recommend any one brand in particular but if you read the fans' specifications it should tell you anything you need to know. Quiet in my book is 2dBA though your mileage may vary. You'll want as much airflow as you can get, try to find specifications on the stock fan to get an idea for how much it provides.

-drasnor
RTLdan
New to the neighborhood
RTLdan
3 Posts
Drasnor,
Thank you for such a quick and helpful reply.

I just wanted to clarify one thing: Are you saying then that it is possible to get noise down to quiet levels by replacing only the fan and not the heatsink?

More for Drasnor, or anybody else that would like to help:

I see a lot of fans that have about 28 Cfm. However, I vaguely remember reading on this board that the stock fan was about 43 Cfm.
Did I read right? If so, is this a huge difference? Do I make up for the difference with a good case fan?
(I'm using the stock case fan right now and plan to upgrade at the same time.)

One last thing: I noticed when you (Drasnor) were talking about your specs, I noticed that the RPM was fairly low for the amount of air it was blowing. Do I want to look for lower RPM along with the other specs?

Thanks so much!
-Daniel
drasnor
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drasnor
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Good questions!

Yes, it is possible to get noise down to quiet levels by replacing only the fan but not the heatsink. The problem is though that if the fan control in the K8T's BIOS is kicking the fans up to full speed then they aren't moving enough air through the heatsink. However, you may have the fan control disabled in your BIOS (full speed all the time).

I don't use the stock heatsinks but instead use larger, heavier ones that take 80mm fans. Generally speaking, larger the fan, the lower the RPM needed to move a given amount of air. Also, usually the lower the RPM the quieter the fan.

Typically most 70mm^2 x 15mm thick fans move about the same amount of air as any other for a given RPM setting. If your speed control is disabled then first I would try running the machine with it enabled for a bit and see if the machine can manage without kicking into higher RPMs. It'll be very noticable, going from a quiet whirr to the vacuum cleaner sound nearly instantly.

If it stays quiet for a few days at full load I'd leave it as is, but if it can't manage I would open up the BIOS and check the PC Health monitor and get the fan speeds at full and quiet and take the average. Then I'd start looking for fans that spin at about that speed.

If you find some 70mm^2 x 25mm thick fans they will most likely have higher flow rates and lower noise than similar 15mm thick fans. However, you may need new screws to hold it onto the heatsink.

I don't really think a nicer case fan can help you here. The processor heatsink is designed to exchange heat between the processor and the air in the case. If that process is inefficient it really doesn't matter how much air you cycle through the case.

-drasnor
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
I wonder if a much larger fan could be placed on top of both heatsinks replacing the two smaller ones. This could reduce the noise, but I guess the problem would be that each heatsink is now only getting air from a smaller sector of the fan diameter.

I design servers for a large computer company, and becasue of redundancy requirements, we are unable to use fans mounted to the heatsinks, so we cool them by moving a lot of air through the chassis. This requires that the heatsinks have a much larger surface area, which would not work with this mother board as the available area is already being used. Also the fan placement would have to be optimized for this, and in most consumer chassis, you do not get that choise.

I would say the best solution would be same or similar to Drasnor's or if you like to mess around with liquid cooling, this would make it even quieter.
drasnor
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drasnor
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It's a different story with rack chassis than for desktop cases. You can get away with it in rack chassis because the chassis is designed to duct air blowing through the front across large passive heatsinks and straight out the back. They aren't really passive, just part of a very elegant integrated cooling solution. Also, rack chassis that do this tend to be fairly loud, especially the small ones (1U).

Fan adapters exist but they don't work well airflow-wise. Most axial fans produce low static pressure and are unable to move their full capacity through the couplers (the air stagnates instead of accelerating). The exception is squirrel cage blowers or some other kind of centrifugal fan but most blowers are fairly loud. Some exist that may meet your requirements however you may run into trouble due to their height.

-drasnor
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
Drasnor,

You are right. The whole chassis is designed around the cooling requirements and there are all kinds of air baffles and stuff to channel the air through the critical components. I was trying to say that with an off-the-shelf chassis, doing all this stuff would be inpractical. And even after doing all this, servers are not exactly what I would call quiet.

I will one of these days try the Freezer 4 as blueox or nicklogan showed earlier on this thread. I think that should quiet things a bit.
RTLdan
New to the neighborhood
RTLdan
3 Posts
This is all really fascinating to me. Again, I am newbie so please bear with the basic questions.

Right now my fans (120mm case fan, stock msi heatsinkfan) are both running at full speed. Using CoreCenterPro (the temp program that comes with the board) I can see that my temperatures stop rising at around 31 deg. celsius for system, and about 32 deg. celsius for the CPU. The only way I keep it that low is by taking the filter off of the case fan. But that makes it really loud! When it's all closed up, it actually isnt' terrible.

From what I've read, I guess that my computer is underestimating the real temperature. So, what do you recommend as a safe temperature to peak at?

I'm sorry if what I'm saying doesn't make much sense.

What I think I mean is, maybe I can lower the speed of my fans if the computer is still cool enough...what is cool enough using CoreCenterPro's temp guage?

Thank you all so much!!
-Daniel
drasnor
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Check in your BIOS under PC Health for something along the lines of Smart CPU fan control and see if it's enabled. If it is, you have a cooling problem. If not, enable it and see if you can run that way without the motherboard flipping the fans into high speed.

32 C is a great CPU temperature. My board overestimated my processor temperatures but I've never heard of a board underestimating them. My Opterons would run at an indicated temperature of ~45 C - 48 C but now run much cooler on my new motherboard which accepts Thermalright XP-120's though I don't have temps on it just yet since finding hardware monitoring software for Linux hasn't been a priority for me. Anything under 50 C is acceptable for me, anything under 40 C is desirable. Anything over 50 C was unacceptable and anything over 60 C was danger.

Keep in mind I run first generation Opterons (.13 micron Sledgehammers).

-drasnor
3dfreelancer
New to the neighborhood
3dfreelancer
3 Posts
.... on my new motherboard which accepts Thermalright XP-120's ....

Hi Drasnor

Thank you for your help - its almost as if MSI had support

You say your new board accepts the Thermalrights - which board is that if I may ask?

I did the adaptation of the 462 heatsink and used quiet fans but run them at full speed - but it is still too noisy. Now I will either buy a new board, I will try watercooling or I will try yet another cooling solution.

I have no idea if my board overestimates temp so I dont think I like experimenting with resticting power to the fans (corecenter says 46 and 42 degrees celcius for the cpus and 35 degrees for syst.)

In total expenses I am not far from the same amount a Tyan board would have cost me first place - that should teach me...

Kind regards

3dfreelancer
drasnor
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drasnor
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I use a Supermicro H8DCE purchased from Monarch Computer. It's officially an OEM board so Supermicro isn't obligated to provide tech support but I haven't had any trouble going through Monarch when my first one was DOA. My only gripe is that it's E-ATX and I had to buy a new, larger case to hold it.

-drasnor
syzygylock
Getting settled in
syzygylock
6 Posts
Hi everyone,

I know this is old, but I need help. I recently got the dual setup and prepare to build a home use server. I got the motherboard off of ebay and discovered the heat sink retention clips are not included. I have the stock hsf, but now in need of the heat sink retention real bad. I've just finished reading all the posts in this thread and it looks like you guys mod the brackets to mount better heat sinks. For me on the other hand, I don't need better hsf because the server will be somewhere where no-one cares and I don't want to spend a lot of money to do a mod. Does anyone knows where I can get the retention clips? Or if you mod yours and still have the old ones, can I buy it off of you?

Thanks,

SyzygyLock

Edit: spellings
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
Yep, NickLogan had a link to these...
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=103
Should be what you need.
syzygylock
Getting settled in
syzygylock
6 Posts
I have seen that link in this thread, but I thought that was for installation with their CPU-300 and CPU-305 water cooling kit. So, can I just buy that part (CPU-S06) and it'll fit my stock hsf?
milo001
Mechanical Designer
milo001
17 Posts
He was installing different heat sinks, but the reason for buying the adapter, I believe was that his board had only come with mounting brackets on one of the sockets, so he had to buy the adapter shown on the link to be able to install the second one. But perhaps I am missunderstanding, so I will let someone else answer the question because i don't wand to guide you in the wrong direction.
syzygylock
Getting settled in
syzygylock
6 Posts
That's what I thought as well and thanks for your help. Anyways, if anyone here still has their original retention clips/brackets. Let me know. Thanks
blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
With my mobo, only 1 retention clip was included, so I had to get the retention clip from Koolance.
I am using the Freezer 4 and lately I had PC shutdown problems when trying to encode movies. I have realized that the Freezer 4 cooler is ultra silent but it has 1 big minus as its surface is smaller than the metal Opteron cooling surface, which means that the CPU is not cooled enough, so I have to look for new coolers which will remain at the same noise level as Freezer 4s from Arctic Cooling ('bout 0.8 sone or 16dba)

Any opinions are welcome.
CFDConsultant
Apprentice Geek
CFDConsultant
1 Posts
I realise this is a very long ongoing thread, however, I too am having the same problems!

The supplied MSI fans are just way too noisy! Searching for alternatives seems like a minefield though, particularly with my GEforce 6800 already touching the mounting bracket of my bottom CPU fan!

Any suggestions? Current spec is Dual Opteron 252, 6gb RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra, 300gb SATA HDD, etc.

All I really want is for someone to say "buy this CPU cooler, it fits and it works!"

Cheers

blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
Rather old but useful thread the same time

I doubt if you will be able to find EVER a cooler for this badly desinged mobo.
Especially the cooling part of this board is not possible when running a dual CPU.
If you check the tests below, you will notice that there are 3 major faults concerning the K8T Master2-FAR.

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...ualduel&page=3

Having this in mind, I doubt we will be able to overide our problem.
I'm already seeking on buying a new mobo with a PCI-X slot and more peripherals on-board (ie.SATA2, firewire etc).
blueox
Ex Amiga 500 user
blueox
10 Posts
I finally replaced my K8T Master2-FAR motherboard.
I have made a new PC & very fast.
Motherboard: MSI K9N Diamond
CPU: AMD 64 X2 5200 AM2
Memory: Kingston 4x512mb HyperX 800MHz

When running a benchmark with my old PC, the new PC is 50% faster than the dual 246 Opterons and 400% faster in memory.
I'm happy
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