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Leonardo
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Leonardo
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7 Jul 2003, 3:27pm

Question IDE-SATA Adaptors

Compatibility problems. After some research, I have learned that apparently some of the first generation IDE to SATA adapters don't work with newer generation motherboards' SATA ports. For example, Newegg states that the Abit Serillel adapter they carry (original, not the "Serillel II") is not compatible with the Abit IC7.

Hmm, I would appreciate any comments or links to definitive articles. I've already ordered an Abit IC7 and NF7-S rev. 2.0. I will need adapters for the SATA ports, as all my hard drives are IDE. I realize that SATA is not much faster than 8MB-buffer IDE; but nevertheless, I need/want all ports on my new boards available.

There are several brands of adapters available, include Highpoint's, IS2's, and Abit's.

Please steer me in the right direction.

Leo
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7 Jul 2003, 4:05pm
My inclination would be to go with the Abit adapters, since the boards are Abits as well... ()
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7 Jul 2003, 4:34pm
Hi Lynn

I use 2 Abit adaptors on my NF7 1.2 with 2 Western Digital 80 gb SEīs and they work great. I had problems in the beginning of this boards life but that was due to a bad bios which is now solved.

I second the Abit brand.
And yes, SATA is MUCH faster than ATAīs, especially the Raptors.
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Leonardo
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7 Jul 2003, 5:07pm
OK, the NF7-S Rev. 2.0 that I ordered comes with a Serillel adapter. The IC7 does not (IC7-G $$$ does!). I guess I need to order a Serillel II form someone.
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7 Jul 2003, 8:12pm
And yes, SATA is MUCH faster than ATAīs, especially the Raptors.
Well, I didn't ask that, you crazy Viking!

OK, seriously now, I did some more checking. Best I can make out is that the original Serillel adapters do not allow more than one device per socket. Also, only IDE hard drives will work with the adapters - no CD or DVD or optical drives. Apparently, the Serillel II adapters fixed all those problems. I don't know about other brands of adapters.
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7 Jul 2003, 8:28pm
Leonardo said
And yes, SATA is MUCH faster than ATAīs, especially the Raptors.
Well, I didn't ask that, you crazy Viking!

OK, seriously now, I did some more checking. Best I can make out is that the original Serillel adapters do not allow more than one device per socket. Also, only IDE hard drives will work with the adapters - no CD or DVD or optical drives. Apparently, the Serillel II adapters fixed all those problems. I don't know about other brands of adapters.
Im not sure exactly what you mean with "more than one device per socket" but you know that those serial drives isnīt working as Master/Slave right? Itīs one drive max per connector and cable. I can tell you that 2 drives with an adapter on each looks worse than drives with just plain ATA cable. Those adaptors is killing airflow bigtime. I would actually suggest a PCI Ide Raidcard, NOT sata if you stick with ata drives and leave the existing sata connectors open until you get those drives in the future. Just my 2 cents buddy.
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Leonardo
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7 Jul 2003, 8:44pm
Itīs one drive max per connector and cable.
Yup, exactly what I meant.

Good suggestion on your part about the PCI RAID card. The case is large though. I think stringing IDE cables, even rounded ones out accross the mobo, over to the PCI card would cause just as much, or even more airflow blockage than the SATA adapters.
Leo
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7 Jul 2003, 9:33pm
Itīs like choosing between the plague and the cholera, i know.

I have the biggest Antec, but with those 2 drives and the adapters, itīs crammed like 200 meatballs in a fry pan.
Just a heads up since im a little dissapointed with the setup, not speedwise, but how it looks.

My ideal world with theese adaptors is to have them in a Harddrivecage in the lowest 5.25 slot together with a slightly longer sata cable. Up to 3 or 4 feet is supposed to be tolerated without any loss of performance.

Cheers buddy,

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TheLostSwede
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7 Jul 2003, 11:36pm
Hereīs how my setup look and i cant do a damn thing about it:
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30 Jul 2003, 12:21pm
Digging up an old thread.. but..

I have a couple of SATA adapters available to me and my NF7-S has the new BIOS with the fixed SATA BIOS. Im wondering whether to junk my old Highpoint IDE raid card in favour of using the SATA ---> IDE adapters.

Opinions guys??
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TheLostSwede
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30 Jul 2003, 12:40pm
If it is stable wit hthat Highpoint, keep it. Im still not 100 proof on those adaptors. I get an occasional lockup with harddrives not booting. Not sure it is the adaptors though, but i think so. DO NOT have a drive for storage on the sata controller. OS with proggs is ok, a ghost can take care of that allright.
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Leonardo
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30 Jul 2003, 5:38pm
Newegg states that the Abit Serillel adapter they carry (original, not the "Serillel II") is not compatible with the Abit IC7
In my case, that's a fact.
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19 Feb 2004, 12:00pm
Hi, sorry to bring this section back up but I thought it was more relevant to post it here instead of starting a new topic!

I have got a plan to setup a raid system but was hoping for some info!

I have got an a-bit NF7-S motherboard which has got these Serillel ata converters! my plan is to make two 80gb harddrives in to a raid system (was thinkin raid-0) but this is where I aint to sure on!
I have also got a 16gb hard drive which I was gonna use for the windows system and as the main drive! then use the raid (two 80gb drives) as a secondry drive! so that to the computer it thinks it has 2 drives in total one drive which is the main one (160gb, one hard drive) and another drive the 2nd'ry (two 80gb drives made as raid which is suppose to be fast)

the reason I am thinking of doing this is because if the raid fails I will still be able to start up my system and wouldnt have lost the things on the main drive!


my main plan is to use the raid drives for video editing due to them being very fast.
I wont be using the raid system for storing files and things, mainly just for video editing!



is it possible to do this? if not can u explain why?


I know a lot about computer systems due to I work in IT but I have left all the RAID side of things to the other guys! they believe it should be ok but I just wanted to make sure with you lot as you seem to have done this alot :P plus the fact the guys I work with have never even seen or heard of these converters for connection the IDE drives through sata connectors!



Cheers!

Mcleish
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19 Feb 2004, 4:48pm
Welcome to Short-Media! To answer your question, that should work just fine.
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