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paroxym
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5 Jun 2003, 12:29am

XP1700+ JIUHB.... yet again

Yup, I figured I would jump on the bandwagon, albiet a little late, and throw my latest OC up on the boards for your amusement.
I picked up this 1700+ JIUHB around the same time leishi and others were frantic over their crazy overclocks . Well, until now I had been trapped on an ancient (?!?) Kr7A-RAID and wasnt able to get much outta my chip or my OCZ PC2700 EL rev. 3.2. I have since picked up an Abit NF7-s Rev. 2 and I must say, I didnt think I was gonna be able to push it this high. See for your self...

Its not the highest OC in the world but the FSB and memory timiings I was able to pull totally caught me by surprise.
When I get a free moment or two I plan to push the Vcore a little more and see if theres any more juice in this chip.

/PX
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Not too bad considering its PC2700. 40mhz out of spec.
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5 Jun 2003, 12:53am
You should be able to do faster than that, too.
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5 Jun 2003, 12:57am
Yep. I got the same kind of chip this week (damn they're cheap!) and I'm testing around 2400MHz now, just air cooled. Keep pushing it!
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5 Jun 2003, 1:02am
I thinks this ram reached it limits though. I booted up at 210 and 208, both at 2.9v vdimm and had it crap out after about 5 mins in prime95. I'm also a little weary of jumping the voltage on the vcore beyond 1.8for the sake of a few extra mhz... not to mention having to cool that OC once the weather here warms up. (I'm at about 45c full load, SmartFanII at full bore, in a chilly room. )

It seems pretty cozy where its at but Im sure Ill end up fiddlin around with it again.

Where are the rest of you XP1700+ Oc'ers at??

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I can go faster, but the computer isn't being restarted to try. It's going until it crashes, or I have to take it to the next LAN party.

43*C/111*F full load.
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5 Jun 2003, 2:15am
I think I might pick me up another 1700+, the price is soo tempting right now. You guys better stop posting those screen shots before you make me pull out the credit card.
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5 Jun 2003, 2:24am
okies guys, what week are those chips, cause i just picked me up a jiuhb 0312 1.6vcore default and its at 2200 and 1.8vcore right now, i am positive it can do higher but the raid on my KX7 died and both my hard drives are on the IDE chans and i dont want them ****ing up on me :| that and i think that my ram sucks too :|
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5 Jun 2003, 2:56am
My chip is a 0308 I believe, 1.6 volts as well.
Its my guess that Thrax's chip is one of the newer DLTC (1.5v) as he's runnin it pretty high for what appears to be a slightly higher vcore than what mine runs at stock.

The board made all the difference in the world for my OC'ing experience. My ram would ceiling pretty quick, being held back by my old via266 chipset.

Clutch: Grab one and join in the fun. Those 1700's are too much of a bargain to pass up

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5 Jun 2003, 3:05am
JIUHB/DLT3C/0310/WPMW

The best there is besides the 0319 of the same type.

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Abit NF7-S 2.0 with the A1/C1 stepping is the best motherboard around.

[:] 8rda+ is scarcely available in anything but A1/A2
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[:] A7N8X doesn't reach the Abit's bus speeds

The NF7-S overclocks expertly, is stable, has excellent features, has the MCP-T, and is 95% available in A1/C1 varieties
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5 Jun 2003, 3:37am
paroxym said


Clutch: Grab one and join in the fun. Those 1700's are too much of a bargain to pass up

/PX

I'm considering it right now. The only problem that I'm seeing right now, is that I don't have enough money right away to put together a complete build. So I don't know if I should go ahead and pick me up a 1700+ while the prices are so low, and wait for video card prices to drop. Or should I just wait until say the 2000+ prices drop which probably want be too soon, but if I do wait then I could risk the 1700's going out of stock also. Too many decisions I tell ya.
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5 Jun 2003, 3:48am
Mine's 0312 VPMW, 1.6 VCore default (that's DUT3C right? confusing, hehe). And JIUHB of course, from Newegg last week.

I have a SLK-800 with a ~50CFM mediocre fan. I got to 2.4GHz by using a high multi and a lowish (166-175) FSB, as well as high voltage (2.2V). It's a KD7-RAID by the way. Anyway, paroxym, can you up the multi any and let off the FSB a bit? No board's top multi is 11.0...
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5 Jun 2003, 4:24am
EMT said
Anyway, paroxym, can you up the multi any and let off the FSB a bit? No board's top multi is 11.0...
Yeah, the multi goes up to 22 on the NF7. However, I'm crunching on a WU right now so I'm waiting for a break before I reboot this puppy and try to push her a little more.

I would have tried taking my vcore as high as 2.2 to stablize a higher clock but I'm kinda weary of doing so. What kinda of temps are you holding at load with that slk-800? I have a sk7 myself and with my SmartFanII (in addition to all four 35cfm case fans) running full speed, I can hold it down at around 44-45*C. Also, is that 2400mhz overclock stable? I had my chip clocked higher but it was choking out on f@h and prime95.

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I'm interested in knowing what EMT's cooling situation is looking like. How many case fans are you running? And how stable was it running when you had it to 2.4Ghz?
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5 Jun 2003, 3:40pm
Thrax said


I can go faster, but the computer isn't being restarted to try. It's going until it crashes, or I have to take it to the next LAN party.

43*C/111*F full load.
Nice! I have the same chip but XPMW instead!

Do you fold 100% problem free with that voltage? I found that this cpus get warmer that 1.6v brothers... The max I could squeeze it was 2.5Ghz@ 1.925v NOT 100% stable.

I`m now running it at 2.35Ghz @ 1.7v (though it can run at 1.65v too but once in a while it craps some gromac WU)
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5 Jun 2003, 4:08pm
Folding runs 24/7 with those temps and settings. In fact, my computer has been up consistently for as many days and hours as my sig states.

I'll push it farther when the computer crashes, or I have to turn it off to take it to a LAN party.

But right now, 1.65v, 2.33GHz and 111*F is just fine by me.


I want 230 x 11 though.
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5 Jun 2003, 4:36pm
Wow, after seeing these results, I cant wait for my 1700+ (same stepping) to show up tommrow! Looks like it will be a real high roller.


Nice OCs everyone!
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5 Jun 2003, 5:12pm
TheSmJ said
Wow, after seeing these results, I cant wait for my 1700+ (same stepping) to show up tommrow! Looks like it will be a real high roller.


Nice OCs everyone!
Post your results as soon as you have them! Good luck!
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5 Jun 2003, 6:55pm
Well, I decided to throw a little more juice into this chip and also back off on the fsb just a tad. Here's what I ended up with

Hmm, not bad. It's burning it with f@h and Prime at the moment.
Also, a quick question for y'all - I upped my vcore to 1.85 yet it only shows 1.808-1.824 in Cpu-z as well as in MBM. Any idea why this is?
Thanks in advance.

/PX
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5 Jun 2003, 8:19pm
Probably because it's just not being supplied 1.85v...
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5 Jun 2003, 9:42pm
Yeah, the voltage is just under spec. Set it a little higher than you want it to be, I guess.

Clutch said
I'm interested in knowing what EMT's cooling situation is looking like. How many case fans are you running? And how stable was it running when you had it to 2.4Ghz?

I have a Chieftec case with side & front 80mm fans (that's 2) and 2 output on the back. Also the PSU has a fan inside the case and outside.

I had about 2450MHz run for 2 days (folding) but unfortunately I came back from dinner last night and it was gone. Now I'm trying 2408MHz and crossing my fingers on stability. Temps are System 56ºC & CPU 54ºC according to Winbond - that's on the surface of the CPU, right?
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5 Jun 2003, 9:46pm
Thrax said
Probably because it's just not being supplied 1.85v...
The weird thing is that in the bios' Health staus section it shows the vcore at 1.85. Ah well.

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5 Jun 2003, 10:22pm
here is a little screen of my OC, not the highest, but here it is
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5 Jun 2003, 10:25pm
leishi85 said
here is a little screen of my OC, not the highest, but here it is
Heh, looks pretty good to me. What kinda voltage are you putting through that chip and whats coolin' the beast?

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5 Jun 2003, 10:29pm
1.85 vcore, and only cooled by a slk800 with a 40 some cfm fan, but H2O coming to my rig soon, so stay tuned.
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5 Jun 2003, 11:02pm
Hey man, nice! Is it DUT3C or DLT3C?
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5 Jun 2003, 11:07pm
DLT3C.
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EMT said
Hey man, nice! Is it DUT3C or DLT3C?
I've forgotten over the past couple months, doesn't DLT3C mean t-bred A and DUT3C mean t-bred b?

I have a JIUCB
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DLT3C means 1.5v
DUT3C means 1.6v
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Ah, so if I ordered in January I must have the 1.6v version
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Yes.
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Well I'm gonna put some more money in my checking accout tommorow to order my next 1700+ I got to wait for the motherboard though, but I can't wait to oc that sucker. Keep the updates coming guys, and if you got this chip and got a nice oc and stability to show us, don't be shy.
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Well the new system seems great so far. OCed at the moment to 1884 (11x170). So far so good, only the temps under load are currently 55 C, and after trying as high as 2Ghz, the CPU temp peaks around ~57C, and eventually BSODs.


Obviously the Areoflow isn't that great of a HSF in terms of OCing, sure is quiet though! But who knows... in 6 months or so I may get into watercooling.

Otherwise, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
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Overclocking on an Aeroflow
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Sk7 or SLK-800. If you can fit/afford a 900 do it.
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Thrax said
Overclocking on an Aeroflow

Well some people do it quite well, believe it or not.

Just wait till I set up the ductwork. That should lower temps considerably.
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Thrax said
Overclocking on an Aeroflow

Well some people do it quite well, believe it or not.

Just wait till I set up the ductwork. That should lower temps considerably.
AreoFlow does test around the same as SLK-800/900 with low CFM fans... So if you hate noise, it's pretty quite and decent for $25.

My 2400+ does 2.30 GHz w/ 1.875V @ 46C (115 F)... AeroFlow has treated me good


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Also it's summer and my room is nearing 80F
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Well since the AS3 has settled, the temp dropped 4 degrees (now 51 under load)!

I'll try pushing it harder later tonight!
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EMT said
Temps are System 56ºC & CPU 54ºC according to Winbond - that's on the surface of the CPU, right?
Doesn't seems right, the CPU temp can't be lower than the system temp when you are air cooled.
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Yes, that did strike me as pretty strange... here's where it's at now:
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Ohhhh yeah... umm... the sys fan has recently (this week) been having trouble (making strange noises) and the problem isn't apparent. I guess that's why the sys is so high... hmmm... any quick suggestions on fixing it (or what the problem could be)?
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Thrax said


I can go faster, but the computer isn't being restarted to try. It's going until it crashes, or I have to take it to the next LAN party.

43*C/111*F full load.
What are you using to cool it?
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Thermalright SK-7 and an 84CFM Vantec Tornado (Which I love.)
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Thrax said
Thermalright SK-7 and an 84CFM Vantec Tornado (Which I love.)
Nice. Tell me young thrax...does that 8rda3+ board have the same locked pci/agp bus as its predecessor? What board are you using now?
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Thrax said
Thermalright SK-7 and an 84CFM Vantec Tornado (Which I love.)

You mean the 55.2dba Tornado fan? Does the noise seem to bother you any? or do you have some dampening stuff.
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LawnMM said
Thrax said
Thermalright SK-7 and an 84CFM Vantec Tornado (Which I love.)
Nice. Tell me young thrax...does that 8rda3+ board have the same locked pci/agp bus as its predecessor? What board are you using now?
I'm using the NF7-S 2.0. I wouldn't touch the 8rda3+ with a ten foot pole, but to answer your first question, indeed it does.

To answer Clutch's question, yes, the 55.2dba Tornado fan.

I have no sound dampening, the fan does not bother me, and I have above-average hearing.
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Hey Thrax!

I have the same temps as you do, full load with an Alpha PAL8045 & a Delta SHE 68CFM @ 6v



Temps were taken with this setup connected to a DigitalDoc5



Here is the CPU:

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Thrax said
LawnMM said
Thrax said
Thermalright SK-7 and an 84CFM Vantec Tornado (Which I love.)
Nice. Tell me young thrax...does that 8rda3+ board have the same locked pci/agp bus as its predecessor? What board are you using now?
I'm using the NF7-S 2.0. I wouldn't touch the 8rda3+ with a ten foot pole, but to answer your first question, indeed it does.

To answer Clutch's question, yes, the 55.2dba Tornado fan.

I have no sound dampening, the fan does not bother me, and I have above-average hearing.
Sweetness, was talkin to EMN on irc...he's telling me thats a chipset feature of the NF2 boards, sweetness!
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Yeah all NF2 mobo have locked (asynchronous) PCI/AGP busses. No dividers to deal with.

If the KT600 doesn't have them, it'll be a non factor in the mobo market. No enthusuast with an ounce of knowledge would bother to recommend or buy one anymore.

(I got mine before the NF2 came out.....)
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Where you guys getting the 1700+'s with that stepping? Who lets you know the stepping beforehand?
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