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Mt_Goat

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26 Apr 2005, 4:32am

I am upgrading my wife's rig with a DFI NF4 Ultra-D, my 3200+ Winnie and my Patriot XBLK. I will be replacing my Winnie with a San Diego and was originally thinking VX but wonder if there is something better? Isn't there something optomised for the LP NF4 boards? Would it be any better?

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mmonnin

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26 Apr 2005, 2:27pm

Well the DFI boards are the only boards that can really utilize the VX series. Sounds like a good combo to me.

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TheLostSwede

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26 Apr 2005, 3:50pm

I agree with mmonnin here. The 4000VX or the new 3200 Gold BH5 stuff. Both hits 250 at 2,2,2 if you use the voltage needed. The bang for the buck right now is the 3200 Gold BH5 at $170 or so at newegg.

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Mt_Goat

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26 Apr 2005, 3:59pm

Thanks!

That's exactly what I needed to hear as I had thought the VX was it. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something before I push the button in another week from now. Am I correct in recalling that the VX will just do the same thing with a little less volts?

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TheLostSwede

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26 Apr 2005, 5:51pm

It's the other way around actually. The BH5 does 2,2,2 at 200 and only 2.8 volts where the VX needs over 3 volts for that. This is the new 200, 2,2,2 offering from many manufacturers it seems. For the absolute top clock with unlimited voltage, VX still reigns.

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Mt_Goat

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26 Apr 2005, 6:28pm

Quoting MackanzOCZ

It's the other way around actually. The BH5 does 2,2,2 at 200 and only 2.8 volts where the VX needs over 3 volts for that. This is the new 200, 2,2,2 offering from many manufacturers it seems. For the absolute top clock with unlimited voltage, VX still reigns.

I am planning on the 4000VX not the 3200. Why would the VX need more volts to do 2-2-2@200 when on the OCZ site it says it needs 3.3v to run 2-2-2@DDR250 where as the BH5 needs 3.2v to run 2-2-2@200. So in my NF4 Ultra-D I plan on running @250 or higher the VX basically becomes a no brainer. Right?

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lemonlime

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27 Apr 2005, 2:36am

Quoting mtgoat

I will be replacing my Winnie with a San Diego..

Hopefully I will be too

I am pretty happy with my TCCD, but these weak memory controllers on the winchester CBBID chips drive me nuts. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the low frequency/tight timing configurations are sometimes better with the winnies, as you can keep the multiplier high, and the memory frequency a below 250MHz. My ram is 100% stable at 300MHz, but I cant get to that with a decent clock.

I hear these Sandiego/venice cores have some pretty solid controllers though. They beefed them up for 4-dimm support @ 200MHz, so 2-dimm stability has also improved.

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TheLostSwede

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27 Apr 2005, 9:42pm

Larry, where do you see that the BH5 needs 3.2 vdimm to run 200 at 2,2,2? It only needs 2.8 or so. VX 4000 needs 3.3 for 250 at 2,2,2 ,yes. However, in my opinion, 3.3 vdimm is on the edge for the cpu 24/7.

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Tex

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29 Apr 2005, 11:15pm

Mack: I got some new memory for my DFI also.

Hit me on messenger when you get this to help tighten the timings.

It's not OCZ stuff but I got a pretty good deal on some twinx pc4000.

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Mt_Goat

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29 Apr 2005, 11:33pm

Quoting MackanzOCZ

Larry, where do you see that the BH5 needs 3.2 vdimm to run 200 at 2,2,2? It only needs 2.8 or so. VX 4000 needs 3.3 for 250 at 2,2,2 ,yes. However, in my opinion, 3.3 vdimm is on the edge for the cpu 24/7.

Guess I got my pages crossed while comparing.

So maybe I'm not as bad off as I think with what I've got running now with 250HTT@2.5/3/4/7 2.8V?

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TheLostSwede

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30 Apr 2005, 12:01am

Larry, if those are good tccd's, they should do 300 at those timings. I have a kit each of all our tccd's here, 3 of the kits are actually rma's and all do over 300.

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Tex

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30 Apr 2005, 1:08am

Cool I realy appreciate your expertise

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Mt_Goat

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30 Apr 2005, 2:39am

Quoting MackanzOCZ

Larry, if those are good tccd's, they should do 300 at those timings. I have a kit each of all our tccd's here, 3 of the kits are actually rma's and all do over 300.

Mac,

My current problem is my current week 50 Winnie with the crappy memory controller. Just like lemonlime, I can turn down the multi and crank it up but at even 8.5 multi I cannot go past 250. Since my wife has a 512 stick of Corsair XMS 3200 rev 1.1 (old BH5) I will play with that before selling it and getting my next dimms.

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TheLostSwede

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30 Apr 2005, 10:31am

Larry, we need to talk to get that rig going. I have never seen a memorycontroller funk out at such low speed. I have seen broken memorycontrollers, yes, but those usually call it a day at 200 or 2T, not at like 250.

I haven't used tccd or the dfi in weeks, so let me hook that rig up and we'll play a little. Let me know when you have time.

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Jimborae

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30 Apr 2005, 11:51am

Quoting MackanzOCZ

Larry, we need to talk to get that rig going. I have never seen a memorycontroller funk out at such low speed. I have seen broken memorycontrollers, yes, but those usually call it a day at 200 or 2T, not at like 250.

I haven't used tccd or the dfi in weeks, so let me hook that rig up and we'll play a little. Let me know when you have time.

Sorry Mac but I'm in that club to with my winnie & msi neo2 anything over 250 & it throughs a wobbly.

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TheLostSwede

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30 Apr 2005, 12:06pm

Is this clocking through bios only or have you tried clockgen as well?
Always stay below 800 fsb on NF3 and 1000 on NF4 even if the dfi can handle higher sometimes.

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Mt_Goat

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30 Apr 2005, 1:21pm

I have always been using the bios and have yet to play with clockgen.

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Tex

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30 Apr 2005, 1:28pm

And Larry I appologize for yanking OT earlier.

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