To talk on Icrontic, just register!

It only takes 30 seconds.

Have an account? Sign in:

Forgot?
Page 1 of 2 1 2
 
Reply to Discussion Options
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 11:24am

Lightbulb What would you change in the layout?

Ok.. Im up for taking suggestions on the overall layout of the forums

* Shorty buries head and waits for the mass PMs to start


Would ya like better buttons? What features would you like added? Would you make the tables wider? What don't ya like?

Im not taking requests on forum names or content (so save the "debate blah" ... )

Just visuals please

-Shorty (have templates, will modify)
Reply with Quote
danball1976
Veteran Icrontian
danball1976
2,634 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 1:15pm
They seem fine to me
__________________
Visit my Deviant Art profile - Visit my Fur Affinity profile
Reply with Quote
edcentric
Must keep folding
edcentric
2,480 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 1:30pm
Why are different posts various widths? I can live with it , but it looks funny.
Well, if you want me to get picky.....
-The smiles box is too wide. It squeezes the reply box.
-On a forum page (not the front or an index) the headers could be smaller. There are some pages where the first screen is only header and stickys.
-and don't be afraid to through a little more color in. I like the shade, but a little more variation might help liven up things
__________________ A couple of folding boxes;

DFI LP Nf4 U-D, A64X2, 2GB ram, is folding again
MSI P965 Pt, C2D E6300, 2GB ram, old reliable

2.5 million points and counting
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 1:44pm
Why are different posts various widths? I can live with it , but it looks funny.

Because some members post pictures that are larger than the post table. Only way to is to make the whole forum wider to suit (hence my asking the question )

-The smiles box is too wide. It squeezes the reply box.

I can fix that.

-On a forum page (not the front or an index) the headers could be smaller. There are some pages where the first screen is only header and stickys.

Screenshot me an example with arrows or pointers.. so I can look into it

-and don't be afraid to through a little more color in. I like the shade, but a little more variation might help liven up things

Il see what I can do
Reply with Quote
Rob
Icrontic Posting Maniac
Rob
339 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 1:57pm
The color scheme is very light and airy, but it just doesn't sit well. The more I see it, the more its just 'normal' but I was really taken off guard at first. Maybe some more contrasted colors as accents? I like the clean feel, but something just isnt clicking 100%

Maybe a different button set or table backgound here and there might shake it up a bit. Overall I'd say its very nice though.

Also, if you could shorten the main pages overall header 120-150px it would probably streamline a bit more. As it sits, it feels somewhat blocky and almost intrusive at first. Just a slight squeeze in a few areas might give it a new 'feel'
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 2:05pm
The buttons are a fair suggestion. I know they suck.. but I have some time to do better ones. Any ideas anyone for a better button??

Il remove the cell padding and move the header up.. and streamline it. I have a new graphic that is more practical as well. Also.. Im gonna streamline and make the welcome bit smaller as well
Reply with Quote
Rob
Icrontic Posting Maniac
Rob
339 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 2:11pm
Heh, so I'm not alone in my observasion. Also, I think a new button package might shift the color contrast enough to add some taste, depending on what you do. but as it sits, its still a nice design.
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 2:14pm
Rob.. I made them in 15 minutes They are the standard VBulletin buttons with a colour flood

Im gonna have a play around and get make something better later
Reply with Quote
mmonnin
Veteran Icrontian
mmonnin
10,545 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 2:59pm
coloUr

The text on the buttons looks fuzzy, kinda blurry.
__________________ Stanford Team Stats_____________Team Short-Media
Statsman Team Stats______________EOC Team Stats
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 3:07pm
mmonnin said
coloUr

The text on the buttons looks fuzzy, kinda blurry.
You spell it "color".. the British spell it "colour". Deal with it

Il do something with the buttons! .. Im getting the hint here!
Reply with Quote
maxanon
Icrontic Posting Maniac
maxanon
381 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 3:11pm
I like the clean look. Very minimalist.

I find that there's a lot of blank space. If you want to put ads later, then they're probably required, however left justifying the tables may be a good idea.

I agree with mmonnin that the text is fuzzy on the buttons.

I don't know what other colours could be added so that it doesn't look to gaudy.

Just curious, is there a limit on the vertical length of sigs?
Reply with Quote
Lincoln
Snapperhead
Lincoln
15,971 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 8:24pm
teh smilies, teh smilies!!

- add teh ones on the page I made and linked you to
- rearrange the ones you have, so that the "normal" size ones are the only ones that appear next to the post reply box. The jawdrop and happy birthday specifically need to get moved down the list a ways.
__________________ Matt Lincoln Russell | Icrontic's Developer | site updates: @icrontic
Reply with Quote
mmonnin
Veteran Icrontian
mmonnin
10,545 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 11:11pm
Yeah I liked how neat it was before too. And do they all have to be the plain yellow ones? Like the green rolleyes one.
Reply with Quote
GHoosdum
tequilavangelist
GHoosdum
10,277 Posts
10 Jun 2003, 11:17pm
I think we need a laughing smilie again.

And the color scheme, IMHO, is great. Much better than icrontic. New or old. I like the lightness we get over here. Feels less oppressive.
__________________ My flickr photostream.
Reply with Quote
MarkTAW
Icrontic Duke of Haxor
MarkTAW
168 Posts
11 Jun 2003, 6:12am
I agree that the header graphics are too wide - My monitor is 1152 x 864 but I keep my browser at 800 x 600 so I can have several on the desktop at once and because I design sites and want to know what they look like at that resolution. The header images scroll off both the right and bottom of my browser. Then again, that may be the old "learned when many monitors were 640 x 480" fuddy duddy in me. For a site dedicated to computer tweakers, I'm prolly in the minority.

The same with the crazy overly-wide sig's. Maybe changing the table width to 98% or something would help alleviate it all around.

I like the color scheme, it says "I'm at Short Media." It's definately not the corporate "dark primary colors and white" that define nearly every other site on the web.
__________________ www.marktaw.com
Reply with Quote
LawnMM
Oppressor of Crackheads
LawnMM
994 Posts
11 Jun 2003, 7:26pm
More nudity! Just kidding...well, maybe? Hehe. Nah, its all good shortman. I dunno how it could really get any better...forums are slammin at this point.
__________________ Uncommon sense...if you think about it, common sense isn't very common!
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
11 Jun 2003, 8:22pm
I know they aren't as "pwetty" as some other forums out there.. but these are built for speed!
Reply with Quote
Cyclonite
Castle Crashin'!
Cyclonite
3,414 Posts
12 Jun 2003, 2:53am
I think it's great, shorty. You did a wonderful job!
__________________

Reply with Quote
tycho
A buddhist... cow?!
tycho
335 Posts
12 Jun 2003, 3:21am
i think that mostly everything looks great here
i agree that the text on the buttons gets fuzzy, but i could live with it.

How about a preview reply button for the reply box at the bottom of a thread... as it stands you have to click Post Reply in order to have the button to preview it before you post.


Keep up the good work shorty!
__________________ Want to learn something new? Check out the forums:http://newbuddhist.com/forum/

Get Firefox!
Reply with Quote
muddocktor
Wandering about
muddocktor
6,250 Posts
12 Jun 2003, 3:39am
Yeah, I got spoiled to having the preview button there for the quick reply box at the bottom of the thread at the old Icrontic. A lot of times I'll start something in it and then decide I want to change or attach something and hitting preview would pop you into regular reply mode.
__________________ I have some computers running Seti@Home.
Reply with Quote
Black Hawk
Metaphysically wrinkle free
Black Hawk
4,121 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 3:34am
Don't know if this has been mentioned (haven't read the whole thread), but a dark theme would be really good. After a few hrs the white is pretty hard on my eyes even after turning down the contrast on the montior. I know you guys don't want to look like Icrontic but a dark blue is the best choice. Maybe a dark gray with a white font.
__________________ "All we are... is dust in the wind"
Reply with Quote
Black Hawk edited : 13 Jun 2003 at 4:05am .
mmonnin
Veteran Icrontian
mmonnin
10,545 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 3:48am
Submit one. I think anyone is welcome to make a theme.
Reply with Quote
Black Hawk
Metaphysically wrinkle free
Black Hawk
4,121 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 4:10am
Umm....err......
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 6:27am
mmonnin said
Submit one. I think anyone is welcome to make a theme.
Sure they can submit a colour scheme
Reply with Quote
Cyclonite
Castle Crashin'!
Cyclonite
3,414 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 6:30am
Is there a template available?
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 6:44am
Trekky8472 said
Is there a template available?
Vbulletin runs almost entirely off templates to build the pages. At last standing there were 450+ templates in this scheme .. so err. no template really available for the HTML. They are all in the admin backend...

however...

I can do a list of the colours scheme options and the current colour codes .. if someone has some alternative colours to submit.. then il make a duplicate style (templates/replacements) and change the colours in that style.. as a try out
Reply with Quote
Khaos
King Kretin
Khaos
694 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 2:55pm
Hey Shortstuff, here's a real simple request that I think we can all agree on.

When you click the big ShortMedia logo at the top of the page, it goes back to the forum index... But there is a link right below it that does the same thing. However, to get back to the main S-M site, you have to type it in manually, go to a shortcut, or scroll allllll the way to the bottom of the browser window. If you don't go to the bottom or manually open a new window, you lose your place in the forums. Why not make the big S-M logo open www.short-media.com in a _blank?

Alternatively, there could be a 'home' button in the top row of buttons that I recommended could provide navigation of the rest of the site from the forums.
__________________ Revisionist Far-sighted historian.
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 2:58pm
Khaos

The parse error will be fixed shortly the frontpage will work.

Im gonna replicate the header and menu structure from the frontpage onto the forums header. So effectively.. the two sites will link pretty smoothly

I should be able to figure that out before the end of the weekend
Reply with Quote
Kwitko
Sheriff of Dicktown
Kwitko
6,526 Posts

» Subscriber

13 Jun 2003, 2:59pm
That was my bad on the parse error. I'm trying to redo the logic for the top 10 posts, so sorry about that. The stray bracket has been found and punished. He's not allowed out of his room for the weekend.
__________________ "Is it not cruel to let our city die by degrees, stripped of all her proud monuments, until there will be nothing left of all her history and beauty to inspire our children?... this is the time to take a stand, to reverse the tide, so that we won't all end up in a uniform world of steel and glass boxes." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
Reply with Quote
Khaos
King Kretin
Khaos
694 Posts
13 Jun 2003, 4:31pm
TD, don't be too apologetic, you've got to let go of some of that hatred for braces, man. Don't bottle it up inside, that's how things get broken (I watch my Incredible Hulk).

Listen dude... I'm a contributing developer on a 250,000 line C++ open-source project know as eMule, I KNOW what it can be like to find stray braces. You don't have to apologize for it, it happens to everyone. For your sake, I hope PHP debuggers have improved a bit since the last time I used it. Man that was horrid, it would just be like, "FATAL ERROR! FATAL ERROR! PHP has detected that somewhere, somehow you fUxed something up." And that was the end of it. Even worse, sometimes it would supply random, WRONG information about the error or just nonsensical crap that didn't mean anything. God almighty.

Shorty -

I like the graphic that is currently over the forums better than the one that is currently over the main page. If it was my call, I would keep the lines around "ShortMedia" going off the side. It would look better if the image was left justified with no margins, like the current graphic on the main page is.
Reply with Quote
Khaos edited : 13 Jun 2003 at 5:05pm .
MarkTAW
Icrontic Duke of Haxor
MarkTAW
168 Posts
14 Jun 2003, 8:50am
I know I'm a fuddy duddy, but this kind of thing bothers me.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: short_homepage.gif Views: 76 Size: 51.1 KB ID: 945  
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
14 Jun 2003, 9:13am
Mark.. never seen that before .. ouch

What resolution is that?

Khaos... Ive got quite a few changes to make in next few weeks.. but Im holding off. I just got Vbulletin 3 final beta. I want to concentrate efforts on that.. so when the gold code is released, that will contain all the changes I will do some cosmetics though, in the meantime.
Reply with Quote
Red Dawn
The Guy In The Corner
Red Dawn
255 Posts
14 Jun 2003, 12:43pm
In the last post section where all the forums are listed the last post thread and last poster don't match up when there are sub-forums in that section. i.e it displays the last thread posted only from the main forum but the last poster can be from the sub-forum. gets kinda confusing when u click go to last post which appears to be 1 thread but u end up in another, if u know what i mean cause i'm confusing myself now
__________________ - Red
Reply with Quote
danball1976
Veteran Icrontian
danball1976
2,634 Posts
14 Jun 2003, 10:28pm
Shorty said
Mark.. never seen that before .. ouch

What resolution is that?

Khaos... Ive got quite a few changes to make in next few weeks.. but Im holding off. I just got Vbulletin 3 final beta. I want to concentrate efforts on that.. so when the gold code is released, that will contain all the changes I will do some cosmetics though, in the meantime.
The picture is 800x700, so hes probably at 1024x768
Reply with Quote
Trinity
Smile! It confuses people
Trinity
164 Posts
15 Jun 2003, 12:21am
Shorty

Just incase you forgot the buttons need doing

Trin xx
Reply with Quote
Spinner
Getting it done!
Spinner
5,003 Posts
15 Jun 2003, 2:44am
Trinity said
Shorty

Just incase you forgot the buttons need doing

Trin xx
LOL

Sorry that just made me laugh. Don't let her boss you around mate. But she's right, they do need doing.

My only gripe with the main page is the positioning of the 'sarcnet industries' ad. I think it needs to be lowered slightly to sit just below the 'Featured Reviews' header level. Something along the lines of what it looks like below.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: image2.jpg Views: 47 Size: 86.7 KB ID: 953  
__________________





Reply with Quote
EQuito
Icrontian
EQuito
933 Posts
15 Jun 2003, 6:22am
Shorty said
Because some members post pictures that are larger than the post table. Only way to is to make the whole forum wider to suit...
If you don't mind me saying so, make the forums wider then. After all, there is one inch of wasted space on each side.
Or you could limit the width of attachments to the width of the forums which could use a splash of color btw...

Just my 2 cents. Cheers!
Reply with Quote
Spinner
Getting it done!
Spinner
5,003 Posts
16 Jun 2003, 2:41am
I'm no coder, and I have no idea of what the limitations are with vBulletin, but with regard to the whole attached picture size thing, would it not be possible to encorporate some sort of intelligent resize into the displaying of attached images, sort of like what IE6 has built in. So it resizes the picture to suit the window size. Or would that just be too much trouble than it's worth?

Just an idea/query.
Reply with Quote
Tropical
looking for something to do
Tropical
87 Posts
16 Jun 2003, 4:29am
Everything is cool expect for two things...the ratings and quotes. The rating system needs to go because most people don't use it and if they do is just one or two people, also i think the pages would run faster without it. I really liked the old icrontic quotes because they were nice and simple.
Reply with Quote
primesuspect
The Icrontic Guy
primesuspect
27,813 Posts
16 Jun 2003, 5:48am
Yeah, what the hell is the rating system? I have never used it once ever, in fact, I didn't even see it until I read Tropical's post...
__________________ "I offer my genius to the world, all I ask is you pick up my expenses"
Reply with Quote
mmonnin
Veteran Icrontian
mmonnin
10,545 Posts
16 Jun 2003, 6:27am
OMG prime.

Not really a layout change but where the hell is the rockon smilie. I was PMing seversphere and I said it and realized we dont have it anymore. Its a must have!!!
Reply with Quote
primesuspect
The Icrontic Guy
primesuspect
27,813 Posts
16 Jun 2003, 6:34am
Diabx0r MUST have the rockon smiley. He used it all the time
Reply with Quote
Khaos
King Kretin
Khaos
694 Posts
17 Jun 2003, 2:24pm
I think that the name cell is kinda weird looking now. If everything is going to be centered, then perhaps the location should be moved up under the custom title. Right now it looks kinda goofy when people have an avatar. This should be a template issue so the change would carry over to the new vB.

Something that's not a template issue is the display of "Location" even when there is no value for it or just blank spaces... There's no reason to just have "Location: " there, it's messy. Hopefully that'll get fixed in the new vB, but if not, I'm noting it here.

Dassall
Reply with Quote
Khaos
King Kretin
Khaos
694 Posts
17 Jun 2003, 2:26pm
Tropical said
Everything is cool expect for two things...the ratings and quotes. The rating system needs to go because most people don't use it and if they do is just one or two people, also i think the pages would run faster without it. I really liked the old icrontic quotes because they were nice and simple.
You can still quote Icrontic style, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. The checkboxes just let you quote multiple posts at once, which is AWESOME... IMHO.
Reply with Quote
Spinner
Getting it done!
Spinner
5,003 Posts
17 Jun 2003, 7:13pm
Also, just a tiny thing, but if I'm not mistaken the dynamic code as displayed below for the mainpage top menus, doesn't preload the mouse over images when the page is intially loaded. It only loads the images after you have rolled your mouse pointer over the links, which results in a short delay before the roll over image is displayed.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: image2.jpg Views: 71 Size: 22.5 KB ID: 989  
Reply with Quote
Bad_Karma
The Moon In The Stream
Bad_Karma
230 Posts
26 Jun 2003, 10:24am
Is there a way to increase the speed one can post. It would help out in the babe thread. If it's to counter-act spam then I'll live with it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: frm00001.jpg Views: 52 Size: 35.4 KB ID: 1214  
Reply with Quote
Shorty
Sniping teh enterpwise!
Shorty
9,543 Posts
26 Jun 2003, 10:26am
Spam and also load

///Adjusted to 15 seconds///
__________________ I am a twit... follow me... @s8nftw
Reply with Quote
WuGgaRoO
Rat Catcher
WuGgaRoO
2,351 Posts
26 Jun 2003, 11:45am
how about putting up the total amount ppl have posted next to their avatar
__________________
sig compliments of Dogsoldier due to most people's retinas burning
Now with No Smoke Technology!
[url="http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&lid=100018&owner=WuGgaRoO&mode=vown[/URL]
Reply with Quote
Necropolis
Back from the wilderness
Necropolis
1,762 Posts
26 Jun 2003, 12:09pm
WuGgaRoO said
how about putting up the total amount ppl have posted next to their avatar
This isnt going to happen. Its not really needed and saves on database hits. I am sure when Shorty see's this he can give a better explaination than I can.
Reply with Quote
WuGgaRoO
Rat Catcher
WuGgaRoO
2,351 Posts
26 Jun 2003, 12:15pm
awwww shcucks
Reply with Quote
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Go Back   Icrontic Forums > Community > Site Feedback
Reload this Page What would you change in the layout?
Jump to
This Thread Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Today's Posts - Mark All Read - Contact Us - Icrontic.com - Archive - Top

Current time: 9:26pm (GMT)
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Get Vanilla instead. Trust me.