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Stranger
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10 Jun 2003, 3:45am

Question Linux/Win dual boot?

I'd like to get back into Linux but I haven't used it since college (4 years ago). Are dual boot Win2K/Linux machines possible on the same hard drive (and does anyone have a good link to a starter guide for this?) Thanks for the help.
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trippin
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10 Jun 2003, 4:01am
Well, its very simple on most linux distros and its also very easy in freebsd, each distro should have a pretty simple guide for doing this. What distro were you planning on running?
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10 Jun 2003, 4:08am
You will probably use either LILO or GRUB for a linux boot loader. Count on using one these for the dual boot. Easier to setup than Windows boot loader. I'll see what I can dig up for info for you. Need to know which you are going to use though.
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Stranger
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10 Jun 2003, 5:23am
I'm not certain about the distro yet, but from what I can gather online, Red Hat is the best fit for me. Are there specific reasons you guys prefer one distro over another ?
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10 Jun 2003, 6:25am
Redhat's a decent fit for most people out of the box. If you visit google.com/linux and search for dual boot 2k redhat you should get a huge result.
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10 Jun 2003, 6:47am
From my experience, I installed Windows first, then Linux plus LILO or GRUB. Easy as pie.
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10 Jun 2003, 8:01am
Yes, installing linux first, and windows will eat your MBR and not be kind enough to add linux for you.

If you have a boot floppy its a easy fix, but doing it right the first time helps too

This is a very FAQ, you should get a huge list of places to help with a google/linux search. Your best bet is to find a guild that you understand the language, read it several times, and maybe even print it before starting.
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Stranger
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10 Jun 2003, 8:06am
Thanks for the information. I'll take a look at LILO in the morning.

But to be certain, what's the best order to install? I'm not sure since I'm reading ness_25's and your post as conflicting.
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Rob
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10 Jun 2003, 9:08am
Were saying the same thing, from oposite views.

Windows first, then linux in unalloticated space.
make a boot disk, and you can reinstall/upgrade windows later and still boot back to linux and repair your bootloader. But for the first run, its silly to put yourself into the extra work.

Also, I find grub a much more feature rich and comfortable bootloader. Alot of people recommend lilo because it was the age old standard forever, but to a new user I would say check out grub.
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11 Jun 2003, 3:04am
Exactly as they are saying man. If you only have one partition install windows onto it. then just have linux take some of the windows partitions space to install. you'll most likely be given lilo as a bootloader when you install linux. just remember if you ever want to stop dual booting that you have to kill lilo or you will run into problems down the road.
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12 Jun 2003, 11:52pm
Thanks for the replies. I've finally d'ld Redhat 9 and created the three boot disks using undisker to extract the ISO files and put them onto 3 cds. I have 30G of unallocated space to install on and from what I can find online am I supposed to boot from CD 1? None of the CDs seem to be bootable (I've set my bios to boot from CD). I must be missing a step somewhere.
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Rob
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13 Jun 2003, 4:51am
You need to create a CD from the ISO image. Probably something in your extraction method. Tools like Nero or K3B have this option to build the correct CD's directly
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Stranger
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13 Jun 2003, 7:38am
It took me a while to figure that out. I used Undisker originally, which appeared to extract everything correctly, but didn't. Then I found Neros "Burn Image" option and now I am writing this from within Mozilla. Everyone, thanks for all the help.
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Rob
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14 Jun 2003, 12:23pm
IMHO, redhat 9 is a beautiful OS, even when compaired to my 8.0 station. They've come quantum leaps recently in the desktop area.

When I see a windows box now, it just looks plain silly.
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14 Jun 2003, 1:19pm
IMHO, redhat 9 is a beautiful OS, even when compaired to my 8.0 station. They've come quantum leaps recently in the desktop area.
True

First time i used Red Hat was several years ago on a 533MHz Alpha box, didnt look as good as RH 9.

Hardware support has made amazing progress aswell.
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29 Jun 2003, 2:47am
I'm just installing RH9 onto a box (dualboot with Win2k Server). Got another 8 hours to go on the install

I know absolutely nothing about Linux so I just went for the GRUB bootloader. Fingers crossed that I picked the right options now.
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trippin
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29 Jun 2003, 9:33pm
Originally posted by dydx


True

First time i used Red Hat was several years ago on a 533MHz Alpha box, didnt look as good as RH 9.

Hardware support has made amazing progress aswell.
Hardware support has almost nothing to do with a linux distro, that all has to do with the kernel.
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29 Jun 2003, 10:45pm
->Shivian:


Um.... Err.... 8 HOURS??? :???: It typically takes me .5 - .75 hours from CD. IF I plumb in the kitchen sink also(load more than 2.5 GIG of the *everything* kind). Iam not flaming you, but do NOT grok why this should be so.

I would say, given where you are from, you might FTP from PlanetMirror if not doing so. Even from Australia to America it rocks.... I do not remember which universtiy hosts that ftp farm, but it is quite a speedster usually.

John Danielson.
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Shivian
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29 Jun 2003, 11:02pm
Yeah the HDD seems to be screwed... it froze at about 10 hours.
Interestingly a scan for bad clusters didn't show anything and the primary partition had no trouble. I think I need better disk utils to test for bad sectors.

Edit: It was chunking like buggery... I thought there was something wrong but wasn't really anything I could do about it so I let it chug along until it froze.
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