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TheSmJ
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The "Things to Bring" List:

After countless hours of brainstorming, and shoving many dollar bills into stripper's undergarments, we have come up with a list.

This list is the ever-important ’Things to Bring’ list. That is, things which each of you should (for your own well being) bring to the LAN:

  • Patch Cord: of the RJ-45 sort. Bare minimum length at no less than 25’. Any shorter, and it’s owner will be calmly taken out back and shot.
    …. Oh, you’d think we’d never get away with it, but this is Detroit, people…
  • Powerstrip: Surge protector recommended.
  • Legal copies of games: Otherwise we don’t want to know about it. Further details will be coming in a later "Games" post by either me and/or Psudo.
  • Mayonnaise Jar: 40 people and 3 toilets… you do the math.
  • Control Top Pantyhose: …?
  • Mace: We’re letting –tk off his leash.
  • Extension Cord: 5-10 feet. Basically the longer the better.
  • Headphones: You know, for your ears. Audio devices of the loudspeaker sort would/could irritate others. It would also make gaming more difficult.
  • Installed & Up-to-Date Virus Scanner: 'Cause we cant have digital STDs floating around, spoiling the fun.

If you have any more ideas, post 'um.
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wow, no less than 25ft??
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I've got some extra cord for those who may need it, but its on a limited basis, 100ft only oges so far!!
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McBain
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Uhmm...you want a Patch cabke thats 25 ft? sure you don't mean just a regular ethernet cable....cause correct me if I'm wrong...but patch cables are used to go from Comp<--->Comp.
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Naw, thats crossover.
Straight_Man
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What prime has are routers. Patch cords go to wall from computer, or in a smaller setting direct to router. Now I gotta go to Home Depot and get some more cable.... J/K
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hmmm...taken out back and shot....NS make sure u bring atleas 50' im sure there r people gunning for u m8
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primesuspect
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Routers? Huh?

I'm gonna have a switch for each of the two large areas. The switches will be connected to each other via gig fiber.

So, 100mb per client to switch, and 1000mb between switches.
TheSmJ
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Ageek had this to say
What prime has are routers. Patch cords go to wall from computer, or in a smaller setting direct to router. Now I gotta go to Home Depot and get some more cable.... J/K
Yeah, I was thinking that was a rather long "patch cable" myself...

Anyways, a 'straight through' cable of 25+ feet would work.
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GHoosdum
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Windows CD and Driver CDs are also a good idea to bring along!
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primesuspect
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Just a fair warning: The sarc-facilities have only a 768K SDSL connection, so if a bunch of people are downloading patches/maps/drivers it will get kinda slow, I would imagine.
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I plan on bringing a CD with the latest NAV virus defs on it, in the Intelligent Updater format. Seems like every time I go to a LAN party, some foo lets a virus loose on the network, and we spend a few hours in Damage Control mode!
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Um, ok.... Straight-through IS a patch cord according to my CISCO books and clases. And switches connect like routers as far as patch cord from a workstation to a network routing or switching device via a wall-ceiling run or a direct client connect to a normal switch or router-- like a Cable modem in that respect. Prime, I did not know if you needed to get the Cisco 2524 off the shelf for this or not.... Its just that we will have a semi-adhoc network, so we get to run to the switches direct from the computers, RIGHT??? So, yes, that is straight through, but if a workstation wants to program a router directly, and probably a switch, sometimes you need a crossover for the programming port. But, we will not be doing that here as LANWarriors.

Those of you enthusiasts in the US that need 25 foot patch cords premade and do not have a friend handy, you COULD get one from Cyberguys. OR, if Prime wants to ship a bulk box in that could be added to the cost, as they are cheaper by 10 each or more(Cyberguys has Cat5E 25 footers built with strain reliefs and which are CAT5E verified for $5.12 each in qty 10 or more -- http://www.cyberguys.com/ -- shipping will be a bit more, but if ordered ground ship should be about 60 cents each to ship, so a premade for each would be about $5.72 cents each-- but a 1000 foot CAT5E solid spool is only about $80.00 shipped from them in Blue or White or Grey-- and one spool makes exactly forty 25 footers-- add $24.00 for 100 ends, $7.50 for strain reliefs (100 each), total becomes $112.00 and cost per each is $2.80 each or about half as much-- say $3.00 each to allow for shipping cost variations between than and now if we build onsite and continuity verify to check end crimping from an Ideal Crimpmaster II crimp ), 7 color choice to match or conflict for visibility and less tripping with carpet). Alternatively, if someone wants to run by Home Depot and pick up a spool, or get a CAT5E spool from a supplier (Cyberguys is not too bad, neither is JameCo), I could bring an Ideal crimper for CAT5E and some ends and a stripper and a tester and we could make them THERE. Not only that, we could custom wire for the needs and not get signal loss from longer than needed lengths crossing each other. I say CAT5E due to signal loss from other things, that much gear will gen some RFI\EMI\EFI.

Prime, could an arrangement to pick me up at Detroit Metro (DTW) on the 7th, in afternoon, or the 8th in afternoon, be made??? If so, will help lay wires as needed for the client to switch lines. I WILL be coming in via Spirit, out of Fort Mudge (officially Fort Myers, but in Summer it gets Mudges all over so it got nicknamed Fort Mudge). If we have drop ceilings there at SARC, we could ceiling run the things and save some on noise maybe. Drop out of nearest ceiling tile corner to workstation points. IF anyone had a Fluke NetRunner they could bring that would be the cat's meow to verify the links good to CAT5E. AND better than cables that are not pro crimped even without that. But you folks decide that one, with my vote being build on site the day before LAN, from BULK.

John.
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RE Viruses:

Linux does not run them, Linux plays UT3.

But, yeah, Norton AV is the best thing to have on each Windows box-- and for those without, check out http://www.glob2000.com for some nice deals on NSW Pro 2003, last I checked they were less than $10.00 each and they are legal CDS sans manuals-- NSW has a Ghost, Utils, Cleansweep, and NAV 2003 among other things.

Has anyone seen any FreeBSD 5.1 compatible game portovers for what you will be playing??? THAT would be interesting on a Barton 2500+ in an Antec SOHO case, or my P4 box. IF MUST, will bring a legal XP in it, but wanted something virus resistant as an occasional email pickup might be wanted or my email accounts will severally overflow-- usually, I use Mozzie in Linux, no email viruses run-- PERIOD. Linux also has AV capability, several ways(best not free, about as much as a discounted NAV 2004). I can resync the email when I get home, and web access ALL of it if need be from XP. Other choice is 98 SE-- what O\S do you folks think, and what would be second best???

john.
TheSmJ
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Good idea about the installed and up to date virus scanner.


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So who's bringing the case(s) of bawls?
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Ageek had this to say
RE Viruses:

Linux does not run them, Linux plays UT3.

Wait, are you saying Linux isn't susceptible to viruses??




Anyway, I dunno why everyone's making such a big deal about this 'patch cord' wording thing.

Step 1: Check house for 25ft or longer standard ethernet cable, if located skip to step 3.
Step 2: Since you do not have this, go to your local Best Buy/Circuit City/CompUSA and buy a packaged one, or have one made somewhere, or order of the internet.
Step 3: Bring 25ft or longer standard ethernet cable to S-M LAN in January, plug one end into computer, the other end into a switch.
Step 4: Oh boy, it works!

I'm such a sarcastic beotch
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Black Hawk had this to say
So who's bringing the case(s) of bawls?
Hmm... good point... maybe we can add it to the food budget? It's a little over $1 per bottle to order it from the bawls website, last I checked.
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Yeah, it's really nothing complicated whatsoever. There will CERTAINLY not be any in-wall or in-ceiling wiring done for a two day event. I mean, this is a no biggie thing: You plug one end of the cheap-ass Cat5(e) patch cord into the computer, the other end into whatever switch you are closest to. No need to think about RF/EMI/OtherAcronymStuff or packet loss or routing or FreeBSD. It's just games. Plug in, play, and make fun of the guy(girl) next to you.
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No need to think about RF/EMI/OtherAcronymStuff
wel there's one ancronym you're gonna want to know, and that's "omfg" cause you're definitly gonna be saying "OMFG HE'S SO l33t" when I pull up.
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It's a rollover cable to configure console on Cisco routers, not crossover.

Just being pedantic.
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Just being pedantic.
Triple Word Score for Thrax.
primesuspect
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And just to be thraxish, switches manufactured in the last two years, especially the mid-range managed switches such as we will be using for this event, have auto-detect capabilities on every port. If it's a pure 100mbit or 1000mbit switch, they have basically removed the dedicated uplink port since any port will auto-detect whether it should crossover or not.
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Well, yes. I was in the process of typing exactly that, AND wiremappings for straight-through, rollover, crossover, but I figured that was excessive even for me.

I was outthraxed.


//EDIT: Prime, get on AIM.
GHoosdum
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Enough already! That's it, I'm closing this thread.

Oh, wait. I can't, so I have to keep reading crossover rollover patch discussions.

As you were!
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GHoosdum had this to say
Enough already! That's it, I'm closing this thread.

Oh, wait. I can't, so I have to keep reading crossover rollover patch discussions.

As you were!
apparently my extreme sarcasm and witty attitude were not enough to stop the madness.
Thrax
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I can't resist.

Straight through:

First end:
1. White-orange
2. Orange
3. White-green
4. Blue
5. Blue-white
6. Green
7. White-brown
8. Brown

Second end:
1. White-orange
2. Orange
3. White-green
4. Blue
5. Blue-white
6. Green
7. White-brown
8. Brown


Crossover:

First end:
1. White-orange
2. Orange
3. White-green
4. Blue
5. Blue-white
6. Green
7. White-brown
8. Brown.

Second end (Flip 1/2 with 3/6):
1. White/green
2. green
3. white/orange
4. blue
5. blue/white
6. orange
7. white/brown
8. brown


Rollover:

First end:
1. White-orange
2. Orange
3. White-green
4. Blue
5. Blue-white
6. Green
7. White-brown
8. Brown

Second end:
1. Brown
2. White-brown
3. Green
4. Blue-white
5. Blue
6. White-green
7. Orange
8. White-orange

* Thrax flees back to his Cisco
Camman
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ahahahaha, you just can't stop yourself, can you?

I have the damn straight through one commited to memory because of the CNAP
Thrax
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No, I can't.

If it gets into my head, I have to post it...I can't even try to stop myself, it doesn't work.
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Will this type cable do? http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/ca...affixedcode=WW

I'm certain that's what i need to bring but just want to be sure. I'm not travelling 500 miles just to get shot.
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Link is broken because we don't have your session. What you need is a standard Category 5/5e patch cord.

The new LAN is not in Detroit, it's in the 'burbs, and is totally nice and safe. No worries about getting shot or mugged
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Good, so I can take my bullet-proff vest off the list. Guess I want be showing up 50cent style, haha
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Belkin RJ45 CAT-5e Patch Cable 25', Snagless, Blue

Exceeds the performance requirement of Category 5e. Perfect in conjunction with 10 and 100 Base- T, and even 1000 Base-T networks. 50-micron gold plated connectors to insure a clean and clear transmission. PowerSum tested. Premium snagless-type moldings to protect the connection. Manufacturer's lifetime guarantee.

Actually, I was referring to SMJs threat. hehehe
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The new LAN is not in Detroit, it's in the 'burbs
Is there still a highway overpass we can piss off of?
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Oh yeah, there's plenty of those. This time, we will be pissing off onto I-696.
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Oh yeah, there's plenty of those. This time, we will be pissing off onto I-696.
Let the good times roll! The coffee shop will provide us with plenty of ammunition too. The pwnage will be immense.

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Bump for attendees. People, make sure you bring the power strip and patch cord at a bare minimum, we can't be responsible for those things.

And remember, we are going to be running the latest, patched, legit servers for UT, Battlefield, Halo, and whatever else..... We can't help it if your 1337 warez copy won't work on a patched server
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