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Sledgehammer70
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13 Jun 2007, 3:34pm

LAN Items Not to Forget! "Gamers"

Every year at any LAN you get a few guys who just for get to bring the right things to the LAN... here is a easy check list to help you remember some of the key items to bring to the LAN.

The Basic’s

1.) Your PC or Notebook
2.) Monitor "notebooks don't apply"
3.) Keyboard "notebooks don't apply"
4.) Mouse "notebooks apply unless you have mad micro with the touch pad"
5.) Power strip
6.) Ethernet Cable "15ft-25' ft
7.) Headphones "please leave the 5.1 surround sound system at home"

Things you can bring for everyone to use:

1.) Hub or a switch!!!! "These are needed in the worst way all the time"
2.) Extension cords
3.) Extra Ethernet cables
4.) drinks and junk food "If you share, I share, and we all benefit "
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13 Jun 2007, 3:48pm
Bring a 50' ethernet cable.
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13 Jun 2007, 4:07pm
Yep, 50' is ideal. Also bring some zip ties. We never seem to have enough.
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13 Jun 2007, 4:13pm
"side note" => (side note)
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13 Jun 2007, 6:33pm
What if we have a wireless card, can we connect without cables?
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13 Jun 2007, 7:21pm
My wireless is not very robust.. I mean, it'll work but you'll probably get crap performance for internet. You definitely wouldn't be able to game on it.

In 05 we had serious lan issues, because my router was not made for that kind of traffic. In 06 I upgraded to a p4 1.8ghz + 512mb of ram custom-built smoothwall with enterprise NICs and that worked well.
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13 Jun 2007, 7:23pm
Yeah, second that. Wireless is for "I feel like writing this post from my laptop on the porch", not a connection strategy for the weekend

Good thread, Sledge.
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13 Jun 2007, 8:12pm
Quoting primesuspect
My wireless is not very robust.. I mean, it'll work but you'll probably get crap performance for internet. You definitely wouldn't be able to game on it.

In 05 we had serious lan issues, because my router was not made for that kind of traffic. In 06 I upgraded to a p4 1.8ghz + 512mb of ram custom-built smoothwall with enterprise NICs and that worked well.
I love smoothwall. I keep buying cheap computers for it, so they keep dying. Which is frustrating, but I'll gladly replace it with another crap computer to get smoothwall running again. From the time the thing is powered on and setup to the time the computers end up dying, I never have to reboot the thing, and it never barfs on anything. Smoothwall is amazing.
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13 Jun 2007, 10:42pm
Maybe TT can bring one of those 24 port hub's / switches??? I have one, but might be hard to bring with me But I am bringing my 5 port hub so my table is covered
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13 Jun 2007, 11:16pm
considering I will be the first one there...."ALL TEH BANDWIDTHD BE MINETH!" damn i hope i got a 50ft cat5...maybe only 25ft... have to dig deep in the closet since i use wireless-N all the time here.

good thread/info sledge!
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14 Jun 2007, 3:23am
Quoting Sledgehammer70
Maybe TT can bring one of those 24 port hub's / switches??? I have one, but might be hard to bring with me But I am bringing my 5 port hub so my table is covered
How about a dozen of em, and a few hundo feet of cable? + a few ends and a crimp, of course...? I've been holding off throwing them away...
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14 Jun 2007, 3:53am
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checkmate edited : 14 Jun 2007 at 4:07am .
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14 Jun 2007, 4:06am
Quoting the_technocrat
How about a dozen of em, and a few hundo feet of cable? + a few ends and a crimp, of course...? I've been holding off throwing them away...
I have more ends and a crimp tool or two....I can help make cables
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14 Jun 2007, 4:48am
Hey TT , if we are setup like last year "which worked well" we can only fit 5 - 6 to a table we have only 10 rows of these tables but I guess overkill never hurts
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14 Jun 2007, 1:34pm
Quoting the_technocrat
How about a dozen of em, and a few hundo feet of cable? + a few ends and a crimp, of course...? I've been holding off throwing them away...
If you bring extra cable, you will be my hero - I'm not going to have room in my luggage to bring a 50-ft LAN cable this year because I'm packing for two trips at once this year...
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14 Jun 2007, 2:59pm
50' is a bit excessive... 15ft to 25ft shou;ld be fine with the amount of hubs that will be there...
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14 Jun 2007, 3:03pm
Quoting Sledgehammer70
50' is a bit excessive... 15ft to 25ft shou;ld be fine with the amount of hubs that will be there...
And how will be hooking up said hubs without the 50' cables? I dunno man, in '05 I had to run my ethernet clear across the tent because the hubs at and around my table were full.
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14 Jun 2007, 3:04pm
50' is not excessive. This is based on experience with two LANs in this same tent.
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14 Jun 2007, 3:35pm
Agreed. My cable just barely made it last year.
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14 Jun 2007, 4:11pm
LOL.. If TT has over a 100' cable that will get us from the house to the tent... he can set up a hub in the house which equals open ports 25' range in the main room is pretty good... and if your portable or moving that much wireless should due you good

also having a hub per table will allow everyone and beyond to hook up... I had a 5' and 25' cable last year and I only used the 5' cable.
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14 Jun 2007, 4:27pm
That's the problem. We didn't have a hub per table.
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14 Jun 2007, 6:30pm
well... this year we will thanks to TT
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14 Jun 2007, 7:13pm
hub... yuk. Switch, yum!!!
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15 Jun 2007, 12:54am
BRING A 50' LAN CABLE.

Do not bring ANYTHING but a 50' (Or bigger) LAN cable.
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15 Jun 2007, 2:08am
thats beyond retarded....
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15 Jun 2007, 2:26am
Quoting Sledgehammer70
thats beyond retarded....
No, it isn't. You haven't been to three LANs. It's been standard gear at the last three, and it's better to be prepared for anything than for a situation that may not work out alright.

Go troll someone else's thread with misinformation.
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15 Jun 2007, 4:26am
my philosophy: better to be safe than sorry. You can ziptie the slack, but you can't make a cable longer.
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15 Jun 2007, 4:26am
It sounds like T_T is bringing cable and I have probably 200 - 500 left on a spool that I will bring. Plenty of ends too, we should have all the cable we need.
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15 Jun 2007, 4:48am
I'm bringing two 5 footers....

And use them as whips!!!!
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15 Jun 2007, 4:57am
Thrax your right I haven't been to 3 LAN in Michigan... But I have ran over 37 Professional LAN events over the last 5 years With having up to over 800 participants, I know how to inform people on what they need... If you call IC LAN or any of the previous 3 big LAN events you are sorely mistaken....

Now with the setup of the tent, you do not need a 50' cable. The tent isn't even 50ft long, and with Hub's and switches being brought to the events for each table that cuts down the need for a overly long cable...

Also TT already said he has 100's of feet of cable to drag out from the house to the tent, hence we don't need multiple runs from the house.

Now in all my years a 15' to 25' cable has been good enough, and with the planning Q and I are doing and have done we shall be fine with those lengths.

So if you want bring A 2000' cable as suit yourself, but for the others 15' should be just fine...

So how about you stop thread crapping MY Thread and go play with a Wii or something...
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15 Jun 2007, 5:20am
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I'm bringing two 5 footers....

And use them as whips!!!!
Excellent! Yeah, last year the cords were wrapped around my neck when I woke up in the mornings, in my turtle shell.
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15 Jun 2007, 7:27am
Quoting Sledgehammer70
So how about you stop thread crapping MY Thread and go play with a Wii or something...
He has merely said the same as the two owners: if you have a longer Ethernet cable, bring it. Better safe than sorry. We've consistently been sorry we didn't have a few more. Zip tie the slack if everything goes perfectly.
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15 Jun 2007, 12:58pm
lol.... I'm just saying with what we have planned 50' is not needed even as a precaution.

But hey what do I know right?
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15 Jun 2007, 1:08pm
One more thing not to forget:

If you have a Nintendo DS, bring it with you.
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15 Jun 2007, 1:57pm
How many tables are there? If you want to make a general schematic (MS paint is OK) I can show you what I can bring...it'll help plan a little better too.
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15 Jun 2007, 2:03pm
TT, you're now in the elite LAN planning forum. gogogogo.
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15 Jun 2007, 2:06pm
Wait... there's a secret, secret LAN forum for planning? If I'd known that I might not have made that giant post I just made in the Swag Thread...
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15 Jun 2007, 2:16pm
There's been an elite, secret planning forum section in past years as well...

Based on the events, I still can't for the life of me figure out what planning actually went on there.
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15 Jun 2007, 5:50pm
I am the master of MS Visio... or so I claim. Between Techo, Sledge, and Checkmate, I think we can screw things up fairly well.... I mean plan things fairly well!!!
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15 Jun 2007, 8:26pm
if you want to pick your seat you better bring 35-50 feet of cable, or else your pretty restricted to near one of the hubs.
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17 Jun 2007, 7:55am
we will have a hub per table
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18 Jun 2007, 3:35pm
Quoting Sledgehammer70
we will have a hub per table
Actually... looks like a switch per table or two!!! SWEET!!!
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18 Jun 2007, 6:15pm
Quoting QCH2002
Actually... looks like a switch per table or two!!! SWEET!!!
No need for any more? I've got a spare Wireless G router (and a couple of older 10bt hubs), would that be of any help?
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18 Jun 2007, 6:37pm
No, those wouldn't be useful garg.. Just bring your sexy self
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18 Jun 2007, 6:39pm
Hubs... no. Switches sure. Wireless router... Only if you can disable the wireless. We don't need to have 5 or six routers all flooding us with 2.4GHz waves... cook my innards.
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18 Jun 2007, 8:12pm
i've got a 5 port gigabit switch... should i bring it?
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18 Jun 2007, 8:12pm
Quoting primesuspect
Just bring your sexy self

I'm gonna!
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18 Jun 2007, 8:45pm
Quoting sharkydart
i've got a 5 port gigabit switch... should i bring it?
Yes, that might help someone in a pinch.
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18 Jun 2007, 9:22pm
If we can run a few cables from the master switch to other switches (say a switch for every two tables) then that would be great.
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18 Jun 2007, 11:51pm
I'm bringing my IBM 8275-416 16-port switch.

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