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Google Frame borgs IE with Webkit

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Google announced on Tuesday the beta release of a plugin which makes major changes to Microsoft’s competing Internet Explorer browser.

Titled Google Frame, it completely replaces IE’s web rendering engine with that of Chrome’s. The result is a faster, more standards-compliant experience even in the antique Internet Explorer 6.

Many web developers are loathe to require that users upgrade their browser (because most simply can’t), but Google theorizes that the low barrier to entry of a plugin might spur IT departments to adopt it as they have with Adobe’s Flash.

Meanwhile, MSNBC Editorial Concepts Producer Jim Ray has written a glowing review which documents the technical details of Google’s work:

The irony here, as I see it, is that an old, insecure feature Microsoft built to try to beat Netscape is now being used by Microsoft’s biggest current rival to patch IE. The upside for developers is that Microsoft is going to have a hard time killing Chrome Frame because it actually does the right thing — it’s not hacking IE via undocumented APIs or unscrupulous haxie-like code injection. They used Microsoft’s own well-documented and fully supported platform to do this. Bravo indeed, Google.

We can’t deny that this news fills us with a bit of smug satisfaction, but we question the utility of requiring all IE users (or merely IE6 users) to install a plugin before using your site. While Flash has made significant inroads in this area over the years, we wonder if there is enough incentive before larger websites pave the way.

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23 Comments:

  1. Cliff_Forster
    Keepin it real

    So in conclusion, don't be the jerk that still uses IE6?

  2. Thrax
    Cad

    Don't be that guy. Or that department. If you're not willing to give your users addons, at least give them Chrome... The browser is much more secure than IE6, and you'd be doing your company's security profile a huge favor.

  3. jared
    Howdy Damnit

    If you are going to go to the trouble to set this up, why not just install Firefox or Chrome - or even just update IE....

  4. Tim
    Pessimistic Optimist

    With the google chrome addon, would the IE6 still look identical to the original IE6? I don't like the look of the tabbed browsing in IE7&8, I'm still in that 10% of people who use IE6, and I'm in the 17% of IE6 users who feel no need to "upgrade".

    Yes, I'm THAT guy.

  5. primesuspect
    The Icrontic Guy

    Wahahahaha

  6. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.

    To answer your question, yes it would look identical, and please, for fuck's sake, do it.

  7. shwaip
    elaborate bot

    You could also disable tabbed browsing in ie7 and probably 8.

    http://internet-explorer-help.blogsp...-internet.html

  8. MariusX2
    Guest

    I though that these 10% of IE6's are at the museums

  9. Buddy J
    Dept. of Propaganda
  10. Thrax
    Cad

    Keyboard cat is unamused.

  11. Camman
    110% Pure Awesome

    As others have mentioned, seems like if you're going to go through the trouble of installing a plug in that makes IE like Chrome you might as well just use Chrome.

    Also; I would love to see the Google and Anti-trust firestorm that would rain down on Microsoft if they tried the same stunt in reverse and designed a plugin that made huge alterations to another company's product.

    But I guess that's one way for Google to get chrome out to more than the 4 people who are using it now.

  12. Gargoyle
    We can't stop here...

    It's ironic that sysadmins that are tasked with the security of their computers are causing the biggest problem by not getting off their lazy asses and upgrading software.

    But you can be sure that these are the same people that keep McAfee updated, taking up 25% of your resources.

  13. ardichoke
    King Banana Spanner

    I can't speak for all sys admins Gargoyle, and I'm sure there are some out there that are just too lazy to upgrade software. From my experience, however, it's less them being too lazy to upgrade the software than the users not wanting to learn to use something new. Sure, the sysadmins should be saying too bad, learn to use it anyway, but that gets hard to do when the person you're talking to is an executive or someone else who could potentially fire you.

  14. RyanMeray
    New to the neighborhood

    The biggest holdup for moving from IE6 is companies that access internal resources or web resources that aren't compatible outside of IE6. I know a lot of banks have internal sites that won't render beyond IE6 and they can't be buggered to recode their whole back-end.

  15. Shorty
    Sniping teh enterpwise!

    Oh I do love the wonderful "admins should do this" blanket statements.

    Let me give those who don't sit in the Enterprise world a little eye opener.

    Take a company in this case called "company A" with 25,000 employees distributed globally. So lets then take that scenario a little deeper. They all have a baseline corporate build but with some regional variances. Local support teams in service management to aid the local users.

    Now lets say company A have 25+ OSS/BSS applications and a good proportion of them have been built using IE5 or IE6. They would be most likely externally sourced as larger enterprises do that.

    Company A acquires company B who had previously acquired companies C, D and E.

    So between them they share around 50+ IT BSS/OSS applications. Some are external, some are internal. Consolidation of business (the fabled integration which never happens truly) means valuable skills/single points of knowledge depart with no replacement.

    So to roll out IE7/IE8 or/and Chrome....

    Migration of around 5-6 different corporate builds across a global space. Probably more as they are region specific (UK, EU, Asia, North America).

    So then applications need updating that are in constant use (billing platforms, CRM platforms, expenses systems, resource management, sales systems.. the list is endless).

    Easy huh? Take a couple of weeks there then It can take years to upgrade a single system. The amount of planning and risk analysis alone can take a year.

    So where is this magic pool of IT resource to do this coming from?

    EVERY Enterprise I know is squeezing staff levels. OpEx challenges of 10%, 20% and more are demanded by the CFO/FD. Do you guys read the news? IT isn't a great place to be right now in any business. There is no pot of money to spend anymore.

    The above is just the TIP of an Iceberg. I could write a 200+ article on the challenges that even something as simple as "upgrading the browser" and it's associated impact across an enterprise.

    So please, politely. Don't be an idiot to your admins, engineers and helpdesk. Don't make assumptions about how something is so easy.

    Stop looking at tech and look at business.

    Could you build a business case with proven ROI for millions of your corporate coins for a browser upgrade? One that actually stacks up. I doubt it.

    ...and in a rare show of "my intraweb pen0s is bigger than yours"....

    The above "rant" is because I am an Enterprise Architect for a global enterprise so I know what I am talking about. It's my job to do so.

    Now jobworths, flame away and I will e-kick you a little harder.

  16. kryyst
    CTRL+ALT+DEL

    Lets also accept that there are plenty companies that still have win2k machines that can't run ie7 or ie8. True they could use firefox.

    But then there are plenty of business apps that I run into daily that still don't work in Firefox. So being able to drop this as an add-in to ie6 is wicked awesome.

  17. Gargoyle
    We can't stop here...

    Sure, there's no easy fix for web apps that don't render beyond IE6. Shorty's right, fixing those apps would be a huge demand on resources.

    However, there are a lot of companies that aren't multinational clusterfucks that could upgrade their systems with less of the challenges Shorty mentioned. I worked for a company with 10k employees, but in one place, and it had a hierarchical structure where each group was doing very different work. While that's a large company, it was easier for each group's sysadmin to fix their own group without worrying about all 10,000 employees. Complexity was way less compared to what Shorty described.

    I mention that because that company is set up just like most universities. It boggles my mind that computer labs managed on the college or department level can't keep browsers updated when there is no application dependency on antiqueware.

  18. kryyst
    CTRL+ALT+DEL

    Actually this isn't as exciting as I thought, while it supports ie6 it doesn't work on win2k. Which means for older computers they are still SOL.

  19. Annes
    Leching since ought-five
    The above is just the TIP of an Iceberg. I could write a 200+ article on the challenges that even something as simple as "upgrading the browser" and it's associated impact across an enterprise.

    Sounds like a plan to me!

  20. Thrax
    Cad

    Sounds like a sweet plan to me too.

  21. Shorty
    Sniping teh enterpwise!

    So you want an inside look into the enterprise?

  22. EdenMar
    Guest

    I don't think it's correct to refer to this as a problem of people "wanting to run" IE6. Corporate IT departments need and want to run, not the browser itself, but its Trident rendering engine, MSHTML.DLL, for their business
    software to display HTML. Their primary objective isn't to run iexplore.exe to display what we recognize as the IE6 browser. They then run the IE6 browser for the secondary reason, that iexplore.exe is already there.

  23. jared
    Howdy Damnit

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