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More on AMD DX11 and Intel’s Westmere

UPDATE: 27 July, 2009 @ 11:57 AM

Ex-Inq journo and long-time Valley rabble-rouser Charlie Demerjian has recently offered new insight on the wild world of ATI’s DirectX 11 codenames in a brutal piece on plagiarism in the world of tech journalism. Here’s the breakdown:

Hemlock: Highest-end desktop part, probably dual Cypress GPUs a la the rumored Radeon 5870 X2.
Cypress: High-end single-GPU part. Similar to the Radeon HD 4870 when it launched.
Juniper: Mid-range desktop part. Similar to the Radeon HD 4850 when it launched.
Cedar & Redwood: Low-end desktop parts. Similar to the Radeon HD 4650 and 4670.

The confusion in the codenames contained in the original story is most likely owed to a simple transcription error on behalf of The Inquirer. It happens, especially when (as Chuck D points out) you’re being blitzed with PR, buzzwords and codenames. Anyone who’s been to a trade show or a press event understands.

Original story follows:

Today’s semiconductor news from the likes of AMD and Intel aren’t quite headline material, but they’re better than the proverbial page bury. Times like these call for a roundup, but our taskmaster editor doesn’t like them. Good thing he’s sleeping off a lake party and isn’t around to stop us.

AMD’s DirectX 11 codenames

DirectX 11 is just around the corner, and NVIDIA’s struggles to get its shit together at 40nm has left AMD the sole heir to the estate this winter.

While considerable speculation remains over just how AMD plans to get into the spirit of the season, we do have codename confirmations to tide you over.

The family of 40nm DirectX 11 GPUs is collectively known as the Evergreen. The Evergreen architecture will launch with five parts that will span the price spectrum:

  • Cypress (Desktop: For those with more money than sense)
  • Redwood (Desktop: An enthusiast part like the Radeon 4890)
  • Juniper & Cedar (Desktop: Mainstream parts like the Radeon 4670 and 4650)
  • Hemlock (Desktop: Poisonous parts for the cheapskates amongst us)

Word has it that AMD has already received functioning Evergreen silicon back from the fab. If that’s true, we are indeed looking at a DX11 launch timed to coincide with Windows 7. It’s like the Radeon 9800 coup all over again!

A Look at Westmere SKUs for Q1 2010

Intel’s upcoming Westmere family of architectures has received considerable attention as the desktop’s first 32nm processor, and the first architectural family to offer an APU (CPU with onboard GPU). While the time is not yet nigh to receive performance data, we are beginning to learn a thing or two about clockspeeds and model numbers.

TheRegister is talking about those very APUs today, and it offers details on a scad of such chips:

Arrandale (Low-voltage)

ULV Core i7 (Hyperthreaded dual core / 4MB L3 / DDR3-800 / 10-18W TDP)
1.06GHz-2.13GHz
1.20GHz-2.26GHz

LV Core i7 (Hyperthreaded dual core / 4MB L3 / DDR3-1066 / 17-25W TDP)
2.0GHz-2.8GHz
2.13GHz-2.93GHz

Core i7 (Hyperthreaded dual core / 4MB L3 / DDR3-1066 / 25-35W TDP)
2.66GHz-3.33GHz

Core i5 (Hyperthreaded dual core / 3MB L3 / DDR3-1066 / 25-35w TDP)
2.4GHz-2.93GHz
2.53GHz-3.06GHz

Clarksdale (Mainstream laptop)

Core i7 (Hyperthreaded quad core / 8MB L3 / DDR3-??? / ??-??w TDP)
Core i7-720QM: 1.6GHz-2.8GHz
Core i7-820QM: 1.73GHz-3.06GHz
Core i7-920XM: 2.0GHz-3.2GHz

You’ll notice that each processor in the line has quite a range of clockspeeds available to it. This is the result of a union between Intel’s SpeedStep and Turbo Mode functions which dynamically clock, or even overclock, the processor if the thermal conditions are right.

Keep those laptops cool, boys and girls!

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13 Comments:

  1. Buddy J
    Dept. of Propaganda

    I'm impressed by the seriously low TDP numbers there. ICE COLD!

  2. UPSLynx
    The Dean of Computer Graphics

    Come on nVidia, get your crap together.

    My next GPU upgrade will be a DX11 capable chipset, so I'm paying close attention to this race.

    I don't want either company crapping out. If they hit the ground running, throwing punches back and further, the progress should yield some incredible cards.

  3. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    I am curious about the graphics performance of these new APU's. But I have a feeling that they will still perform like "integrated graphics".

  4. They will, yes. They'll be slightly faster than today's offerings as they're directly connected to the DRAM and the CPU, but it's still budget performance.

  5. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    I have upgraded the CPU's of my notebooks many times in the past. I wonder if this integration will create any complication, especially if the notebook has a discreet GPU.

  6. Gargoyle
    We can't stop here...

    I've never upgraded the notebook CPU, but I've considered upgrading the GPU.

    The problem with discrete notebook GPUs is that even if they're on a removable card, those cards are often manufacturer-specific. I looked into upgrade options for my Dell laptop, and the only choices were the two cards it was sold with (and I already had the faster one).

    Wasn't there talk of a standardized mobile GPU card? I suppose that goes out the window as decent GPUs begin to be integrated with the CPU.

  7. You're speaking of the NVIDIA MXM module which was stifled in its inception.

  8. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    Yes Nvidia MXM is the industry standard (supposedly) but Dell uses their proprietary format. When I had bought my Vostro 1500 (same as Inspiron 1520) it had a GF8400M-GS card on it. I wanted to upgraded it with a GF8600M-GT which was available as an option. But at the time I was looking for the upgrade card, Dell only had the card available for Vostro1700. I knew that the motherboards of the two notebooks were very similar (if not the same). But the problem was that Dell was selling the cards with heatsinks attached. I took the risk and bought the card planning to swap the heatsinks. And it worked! They were indeed the same cards with different heatsinks attached. In most of the later models Dell started to solder the GPU on the motherboard.

  9. Buddy J
    Dept. of Propaganda

    Looks like MXM isn't dead: http://www.mxm-sig.org/ They're still drafting specs by the look of things.

  10. 10:1 says MXM modules get fabbed to make it easy on OEMs, but as laptops are built to very specific thermal profiles, no consumer will ever get their hands on a reasonably-priced GPU that's faster than what the notebook came with.

  11. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    What is up with Nvidia? They are starting to remind me of creative. No 10.1 and now a wait for DX11. Your a video card company, stop screwing with Atom cpu's and get your act together.

  12. ardichoke
    King Banana Spanner

    Now that ATIs support for Linux is improving (supposedly)... it looks like I may be abandoning the NVidia ship.

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