Star Wars Episode VII Discussion

Creeperbane2

Star Wars Episode 7 to feature Ryan Gosling and Zac Efron, NO NO NO KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!

Yes you heard it right J.J. "Story murderer" Abrams is casting Ryan Gosling and Zac Efron.....In Star Wars!
Zac Efron as Jacen Solo (Han's son) and
Ryan Gosling as Ben Skywalker (Luke's son)
The question is, why? Is it Disney being well.....Disney, or is it the fact Abrams just can't direct Sci-Fi and make something that the diehard fans will like. Or possibly does Disney just not care about anything other than money. The point is, and I hate to say this but Lucas could have done better, hell two hours of a movie about a lobotomized Jar Jar Binks would be better, yes you read that right two hours of the dumbest character in the history of the franchise made dumber by a frontal lobotomy, would be better than this!

Annes

This reminds me of the time people got really upset that Heath Ledger (that pansy from A Knight's Tale?!?!?!) was cast as The Joker.

mertesn

Simple solution: don't go see it.

Linc

Detroit's kinda got a crush on Ryan Gosling right now for being awesome (he's like our own personal cheerleader), so you'll get no complaints from me about him.

Efron's primary sin seems to be becoming famous as a Disney teen idol and his "chick flick" resume. My only exposure to him was Hairspray, and I didn't come away with a negative opinion of him.

Let me remind you that the choice of casting the lead children for E1-3 was possibly the worst acting choices in the history of acting choices, so I'm really unconcerned about Disney doing any worse.

PirateNinja

I don't care if they cast Justin Bieber and Whoopi Goldberg, I'm still going to go see it because it's Star Wars. I don't know who Efron is short of what Lincoln just said, but if I'm picturing the right person for Ryan Gosling then he is a very smashing young lad and eye candy can't hurt. Zomgz star wars, boner.

CB

Who would you have prefered play the son of one of Harrison Ford's most popular characters? Shia LaBeouf?

I mean: It's a new film. They have to cast today's popular actors. They would never, no matter who they choose, live up to what the diehard Star Wars fans want, so why bother even trying? Besides, this movie is not being made for Star Wars fans. It's being made for the general moviegoing public.

Personally, after seeing what Disney has done with the Marvel films, I'm willing to trust them with Star Wars.

Signal

I don't think you got this information from a reputable source.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/ryan-gosling-star-wars_n_3651470.html

Chooch

wait, are they not casting for Jaina Solo??

Canti

But who will play Jabba the Hutts' son? I nominate Will Smith.

primesuspect

After seeing Natalie Portman turn in the most wooden, horrid, terrible acting performance of her career, and I don't-even-remember-his-name whineakin whinewalker, who the fuck cares? They cannot possible cast anything worse than what's already been done.

JBoogaloo

I can dig the Ryan Gosling and Zack Efron thing. They're both very good actors and I'm willing to give them a chance with these films.
Why the rage? Yes, at first glance I'll admit I was a bit, "huh?", too. But, this is my own prejudice and disdain for many (not all) of the movies they've both been involved in. Are they big time action stars? Not really, I don't personally think so. Do they seem "too pretty" to do a sci-fi film? In my opinion, yeah kinda. Do I think that they could meet my expectations of what Star Wars was when I was a child? Hell no.
But, my immediate opinion was complete nonsense. I had already written them off before giving them a chance. The truth is they're actors, and pretty damn decent ones. The only reason I didn't initally want to see them in these roles is because I've never seen them in this type of role before. I say, "ef it, let's give them a shot!" They did past movies that best suited them at the time they were presented. Now's a chance to be part of a legacy that spans multiple generations of fans (both new and old). They're aware of the expectation laid upon them and I highly doubt that they're going to ignore it and just "willy nilly" their way through it, same with J.J.A.

Let's give it a chance to succeed before crying fail immediately.

Edit: Apparently I missed seeing Signal's reply with link

Teramona

I think they're both decent actors... Also, yeah. Star Wars. I've kind of had a Star Wars obsession since I was a teenager, so adding good looking guys in to the equation isn't going to take any points away for me.

GnomeQueen

I think they're both decent actors... Also, yeah. Star Wars. I've kind of had a Star Wars obsession since I was a teenager, so adding good looking guys in to the equation isn't going to take any points away for me.

QFT

Linc

I think the lady appeal is definitely an element here.

Thrax

Can't be worse than Episodes I-III, or any recent decision made by Lucas.

MAGIC

Whats wrong with Ryan Gosling? Have you seen Drive or The Ides of March? Awesome movies. Take your speculation hats off.

Cliff_Forster

Can't be worse than Episodes I-III, or any recent decision made by Lucas.

So the bar is set at sucking less?

Thrax

Until I have sufficient cause to raise my expectations.

Kwitko

Episode III was good. Episode I was nothing more than a way to set up merchandising. Episode II had its moments, as long as you take out the shitty "chemistry" between Hayden and Natalie. I've seen more convincing chemistry in porn movies.

Cliff_Forster

Honestly, I'm not opposed to either actor, and I don't think either is officially confirmed yet though.

What I'll say, both young good looking fit guys. One can sing and dance pretty good. I mean Ray Park was a ballet dancer and it worked into the best choreographed saber fight in the entire series.

My fear is this.... You will miss Lucas when his influence is gone. Don't give a shit what anyone says here, the man is a visionary, a complete genius. Star Wars is a little hokey on purpose. It's part of what it is, embrace it. Making a more hip, modern version of Star Wars, while it may be entertaining in spots it will no longer be Star Wars.....

JBoogaloo

I'm not sure and (to admit) I haven't read anywhere saying they're going for a more hip/modern version.

I get your Lucas sentiment though and good ref on the ballet dancer/saber fight choreography.

Creeperbane2

Cliff_Forster

hell two hours of a movie about a lobotomized Jar Jar Binks would be better

Isa say thisa gaves mesa the lulzas

BobbyDigi

I'm so happy I can watch I-III without letting good/bad acting get in the way. I just don't care enough. The "bad acting" as some of you have described (I disagree but that is a whole other thread) doesn't make a movie bad just as bad graphics don't make a game bad.

I am open to whatever they do to produce new star wars films because they are producing more star wars films.

Linc

I can watch I-III without letting good/bad acting get in the way. I just don't care enough.

It seems this is like a paraplegic saying how happy they are they can stab themselves in the leg without feeling it.

midga

I honestly don't know which to consider a more reputable source...Creeperbane or HuffPo. =/

BobbyDigi

I watch Star Wars for the plot.

QCH

I watch porn for the plot.

NiGHTS

Don't know enough about Efron, but you guys hate Gosling because he's good looking? What?

I'm with @Magic, he puts out good stuff.

UPSLynx

I don't know about Efron, but seriously Gosling rules. If you haven't seen drive, cancel your evening plans and go watch it now.

CB

Also: J.J. Abrams is a pretty good story-teller.