AMD Barcelona on schedule
Sledgehammer70
California Icrontian
AMD has come out of the gates swinging and is bragging about its four-core Barcelona beast, AMD is claiming the new native four core monster will offer a 40% increase over Intel's current Clovertown.
According to Pat Patla, director of AMD's server worksation division, Barcelona is a new processor design, 90 per cent of which is brand new. He reckons it will make AMD the first firm to deliver a native quad-core X86 chip and its introduction will be as "substantial" as that of the original Opteron in 2003.
According to Pat Patla, director of AMD's server worksation division, Barcelona is a new processor design, 90 per cent of which is brand new. He reckons it will make AMD the first firm to deliver a native quad-core X86 chip and its introduction will be as "substantial" as that of the original Opteron in 2003.
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1. Will it put AMD back in the performance game, beyond just good bang for the buck.
2. Will Barcelona become affordable to the consumer as quickly as Intel's Conroe did.
The answer to those two questions will determine whether I think this development is merely good or GREAT. I hope this does turn out to be as significant as the 2003 Opteron release. Intel needs competition and AMD needs to gain fiscal strength.
If you take a trip over to AMD Zone, there is little shortage of confidence in this delivery. There is also some honesty as to what it may mean to NOT deliver on these claims- or at the very least- contenders to the new status quo.
For me though the proof will be in the Folding- and it looks like this could be a very exciting year.
But AMD has not gone to sleep about this either. The Pande Group seems pretty excited about all this too and left us this:
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So for sure count on AMD to adopt the extensions ASAP with their own version
All I can say is: Keep the faith. AMD is not going away and AMD vs. Intel is very good for us all. The discussion at this time next year may add how many 64-bit full-extension version cores we can stuff into one system. And that, as far as the FAH project and the quest for cures are concerned, is VERY good news.
Also with AMD pushing more for a GPU/CPU hybrid, they may be able to cut massive costs on Motherboards for the entry level market. And possibly get into the high end market. There are too many new architecture aspects of AMD's new tech that are unknown or that are in massive speculation to really pin point AMD as out of the race. The improvements that are known to be in the new architecture show much more promise than Intel's architecture, and most of the industry realizes that, and AMD also knows if they don't put a Intel killer out they will keep losing market share, that they worked so hard for.
It is not possible for AMD. If there is one company which can do this, that is Intel. AMD is not even able to produce all of its processors yet; they work with IBM. AMD is working very hard on increasing capacity at Dresden and building new fabs in up state NY, but these are billion dollar investments that can not happen in short term. Intel's production capability is not even comparable with any company, their standard yield is more than 90%, the best yield in the industry, which also contributes to their bottom line. Competing with Intel in a price war is *brutal*, in one word.
If you noticed Intel took a huge hit because of this price war as well... something like 1 billion dollars? If I remember correctly...
I already love them, check my sig. And I just ordered another socket 939. Just recently when AMD processors were more expensive, I was buying Intel processors though
I am like an alcoholic when it comes to overclocking, the quantity beats the quality
But I will most likely jump back in the ball game once I see a huge performance increase in the CPU & GPU market.
But to stay on topic I was thinking and reviewing current AMD and Intel performance specs, and if AMD is claiming a 40% increase over Intel’s current offering that means AMD is planning on a 60% to 70% increase over the current chips they offer currently. As in some cases Intel is tromping on AMD by 30%. That to me is a much greater increase in performance than we could ever expect out of a 90nm to 65nm change… right?
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread80879.html
As far as spending billions on the NY fab- that's just business. You have to spend money to make money. As far as having vanishing profits- Intel just had to suffer their share with the weight of their huge overhead + tanking stock and survived. Intel is also still not doing all that well if you've seen their last quarterly. Stock and borrowing are part of that survival process and banks love to lend lots of money if they can see a return and stockholders love buying low to sell high. It's called investment and having what it takes to take the risk. I don't think AMD is going to fold up anytime soon and I'm confident that they will have another good day against Intel ... but they may have to tighten their belt for a while right now.
>whew< This thread made me do some business homework-hehe!
Thank you, General Keebler.
Thank you sir. I am sure it will take more than throwing my 2c here to write up something comparable with the other valuable writers of SM. It sounds very attractive and I will let you know if I can come up with something worthwhile.
Oriane, thank you for your kind words, likewise
It was Sun last week and Google this week. The reason of AMD's concerns is becoming even more clear. If they do not deliver the performance lead they claim, we can expect that processor prices will be increasing. I hope they do, but in any case 2007 will be a very difficult year for AMD. If they deliver, it will be a good year for the consumer
Actually, I don't think it will be the 40% increase in performance people will wait for as much as a 40+% decrease in price.($880USD for Q6600 @top). I think this will only happen when Barcelona is on the horizon, and to the cost/performance conscious- it may be worth the wait for both.
A guy I work with just bought an X2 system this weekend. It was a deal he could afford. If you are a college person living on pocket change & on the road a lot, it may be next year before you bother to think quad-core
In some ways, it doesn't get a whole lot easier.