Who are the real cheaters, Valve?
Mezzanine
Icrontian
It has recently been brought to my attention that Valve has taken it upon themselves to remove hats dropped to players using the external idling program. They call this "cheating" and have rewarded all non-cheaters with a shiny new halo titled "Cheater's Lament." Of course Valve has no way of telling the difference between people who have used the idle program, and people who have been sitting in regular tf2 servers in spectate mode for hours and hours on end, achieving the same results. To think, if we had just idled in the IC server when it was empty, we could have kept our hats and gotten a shiny new halo. The reason valve can't tell the difference? It's really hard to see very well from way up there on their high horses.
Here's the backpack of a typical Valve employee:
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532
You'll notice that Finol somehow has just about every single hat. Given the percentage of hat drops prior to this date, he had to have won the lotto about 6 times in a row in order to be that lucky. If you rest your mouse over his stock weapons, you'll notice he has sweet upgrades to his sniper rifle, shotgun, scattergun, stickybomb launcher, rocket launcher, and revolver.
+15% damage, +150% clip size, +15% firing speed, on hit +15 health, 100% chance to crit on burning players, +50 max health on player, on kill 5 seconds of 100% critical chance, fire retardent, damage taken from fire 0.85 , speed bost when active 1.15.
He also has the cheater's lament, but I have a hard time believing he deserves it.
GG, Valve. Who's cheating now?
Here's the backpack of a typical Valve employee:
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532
You'll notice that Finol somehow has just about every single hat. Given the percentage of hat drops prior to this date, he had to have won the lotto about 6 times in a row in order to be that lucky. If you rest your mouse over his stock weapons, you'll notice he has sweet upgrades to his sniper rifle, shotgun, scattergun, stickybomb launcher, rocket launcher, and revolver.
+15% damage, +150% clip size, +15% firing speed, on hit +15 health, 100% chance to crit on burning players, +50 max health on player, on kill 5 seconds of 100% critical chance, fire retardent, damage taken from fire 0.85 , speed bost when active 1.15.
He also has the cheater's lament, but I have a hard time believing he deserves it.
GG, Valve. Who's cheating now?
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If valve responded to this like you were hacking/cheating, you would have been banned through VAC.
What exactly are they testing with their super sticky bomb launchers?
Now, have you ever seen these valve employees using the buffed weapons? Screenshots of killcams where it tells you they're wielding them? Or seen screenshots of them atop the scoreboard because they're using them in pubs, laughing at us hatless, weak underlings?
A possible demo upgrade?
Yes actually I have. I've seen a screenshot of a demoman (with a medic) wielding a super sticky bomb launcher, wearing a top hat. But at the time I dismissed it as photoshopped or a joke. I'm pretty sure it was Canti who linked me to it, but I'll let you know if I ever see it again.
Now I don't know who he was using it against... it could have been other people with super weapons. But maybe not.
I just don't think they have the right to claim the moral high ground in this specific scenario, and find it funny that someone with EVERY SINGLE HAT was rewarded with the Cheater's Lament.
And I think it's silly to punish people for using external idling programs, when they have no way of punishing people for using internal idling programs. Those are the main points I was trying to make. I just don't see enough of a moral difference between sitting in a fake idle server and sitting in an empty tf2 server with the intention of waiting for hats to drop when you're not actually at your computer.
He has the lament to test for bugs. Like the halo showing up when you're a cloaked spy.
Yeah, I'm using this external program to aim for me. I can do it in the game, it's just more convenient when I use a program. :P (hooray hyperbole) When you fired up the idler, did you really think, "Valve is not going to care at all that I'm doing this"? It was a gray area.
"Well other people did something similar and got away with it" is an excuse we wouldn't even accept from a toddler.
That is a very good point. It's just a shady loophole they can't do anything about. I didn't think of it like that. I have to go ponder my alignment now.
I enjoy me some TF2, but I don't get all bent out of shape about other guys accessorizing better than I do.
Thing is, part of me thinks what Valve did is hilarious, they knew the nerd rage it would elicit. It's genius, everyone is talking about TF2 and Valve again.
It's a lot like a marksman having awards/medals for accuracy and performance, or a driver in motorsport having accomplishment trophies for best lap times, or an outfielder winning the golden glove. They don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but act as a means to show that this person is a step above the best.
It's all bragging rights. And the internet LOVES bragging rights.
I think this is really just you people being sad about, "I don't have a hat, and now those guys do." (Even though the Halo looks utterly ridiculous, and you just seem retarded to me, when you're wearing it.)
I see both sides of the argument. I ran the program for about two minutes before deleting it off my system. I didn't get the Lament, but frankly, I don't care in the slightest.
-Bobby