Theory builds

SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
I'd like some help working up an unreasonable maximum and a reasonable maximum PC build. For reference, I considered my current PC at the time it was built a "reasonable maximum:"

DFI LP DK X58
Core i7 920
12GB RAM
Dual Radeon 6950s
Vertex 2 (currently Vertex 3)

It's not exactly an ideal time for an upgrade, in my view, but I'd like to get an idea what's available so I can plan accordingly. (Any upcoming roadmap plans - new GPUs, new processors, etc. - would be helpful information as well to determine if I should hold off for a bit.)

Some guidelines, then:

I'd like a noticeable increase in graphics performance, but do not want to go above 2 cards, except perhaps in the unreasonable maximum build. I do want a hefty amount of memory, and I enjoy nifty things, so if you've got a board in mind with neat features, suggest it. I run triple monitors (and the monitors may be part of the build change, though I imagine I'm going with a set of 2440w), so the graphics will need to be nice and and handle that, but assume that the rest of my peripherals are accounted for. Really looking for a core set: mobo, proc, RAM, graphics, sound if it's compelling, heatsink, case, main HDD. No price ceilings, so if you manage to make your reasonable max $8k, good for you, but your unreasonable max better damn well be $20k. :P

So: hit me with your best shot!
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  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    3770k
    Gigabyte z77 something something with at least 2xPCIe 3.0 8x
    2x 7970 GHz Editions
    8GB RAM+ (PC3-1600 is fine)
    Whatever SSD that's fast, your budget does support PCIe SSDs
    Your case of choice (I recommend Corsair 650D)
    One of the double-120mm water cooling loops, which dovetails nicely with the supporting area at the top of the 650D
    Seagate Barracuda or WD Caviar Black

    You could step up your CPU choice with Intel 3960k (six cores, Intel's fastest chip) and the x79 chipset, again from Gigabyte. THat has quad-channel RAM, so you'd need 4 DIMMS of whatever, 2GB or 4GB.

    For sound, the Asus Xonar Essence STX.

    It doesn't get any faster. Add more monitors with your budget.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    The only way I could hit $20K was to go with workstation GPUs...

    CPU: 2x Xeon E5-2687W
    Motherboard: ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS
    RAM: CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 64GB (8x8GB) DDR3-2133 CL9
    GPU: 4x AMD FirePro W9000 6GB
    OS SSD: OCZ Vector 512GB
    Data SSD: 2x OCZ Vector 512GB in RAID 0
    Heatsink: 2x Corsair Hydro H100i
    PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower 1500W
    Case: Lian Li PC-D8000
    Display: 6x HP ZR30W
    Display mounts: 2x ERGOTRON triple display stands

    Total cost (before shipping): $29,019.77
    primesuspect
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    CaseLabs Merlin SM8 Case ...the aluminum watercooling case to give you wood!

  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    2 GPUs max, hombre!
    mertesn said:

    The only way I could hit $20K was to go with workstation GPUs...

    CPU: 2x Xeon E5-2687W
    Motherboard: ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS
    RAM: CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 64GB (8x8GB) DDR3-2133 CL9
    GPU: 4x AMD FirePro W9000 6GB
    OS SSD: OCZ Vector 512GB
    Data SSD: 2x OCZ Vector 512GB in RAID 0
    Heatsink: 2x Corsair Hydro H100i
    PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower 1500W
    Case: Lian Li PC-D8000
    Display: 6x HP ZR30W
    Display mounts: 2x ERGOTRON triple display stands

    Total cost (before shipping): $29,019.77

  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    lulz at me calling this reasonable
    $4500 ish for parts + $600-800 for watercooling if that is your fancy
    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xV44
    Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core
    Noctua NH-D14 SE2011
    Asus Rampage IV Formula ATX LGA2011
    G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866
    Seagate Constellation ES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM
    OCZ Vertex 4 512GB 2.5" SSD
    Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB
    Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB
    NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower
    Cooler Master 850W ATX12V / EPS12V
    LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    3x HP ZR2440w 24.0"
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Ok, knock about $7K off that price then.

    Thought with two Crossfire connectors you could do quad.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    I would change one thing: go with Microsoft Windows Pro 7 64 bit.
  • JBoogalooJBoogaloo This too shall pass... Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    This one has a neat feature, it can build girlfriends. The bra for your head is sold separately, of course.

    Memotech MTX 512

    Photobucket
    primesuspectmertesn
  • RootWyrmRootWyrm Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    Y'all are small time.

    Dragon North Peregrine (Generation VI) (yes there are five preceding designs, all built, all similar.)

    CPU: 4x Intel Xeon E5-4640 (2.4GHz, 4C/8T, 20MB) - - $10,900 ($2,725 each)
    Motherboard: Supermicro X9QR7-TF - $1,500 (wrong model, but you get the idea.)
    RAM: 512GB as 16x32GB Hynix HMT84GR7MMR4A 32GB - $1,239 each
    GPU: 6x AMD FirePro W7000 in 3x2 / Independent - $4,518 ($753 each)
    Primary Disk: 2x Hitachi UltraStar 15K600 300GB SAS in RAID1 - $350
    Data Feed A: 8x Micron P400E 200GB SSD - $2,600 ($325 each)
    Data Feed B: 8x Micron P400E 200GB SSD - $2,600 ($325 each)
    Cooling: Custom Watercooled based on Koolance ERM-3K3UC - $2,500
    Chassis: Custom Engineered - $3,750
    Power Supply: Zippy/EMACS M1W4-5CH0V0H N+1 3800W customized - $1,200
    Remote Console System, 4 strand fiber for 6x DVI-D + PS/2 + 4x USB2.0 - $2,000

    Total: $51,742.

    By the way, that's a total of 512GB of DRAM, 24GB of GDDR5, effective ZBuffer of 48GB, 2.4TB of feed at ~2GB/sec.
    "Yes, this bitch will run Crysis. In Eyefinity. While you're mining Bitcoins."
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    I like these threads, because people always post systems that nobody on these forums could hope to utilize for any sort of frequent, regular work. Yep, nobody. Not even the rocket scientist neural net biology space shuttle vulcanologist photonics engineers some of us claim to be.
    JBoogalooCliff_ForsterMAGICBuddyJ
  • JokkeJokke Bergen, Norway Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    Nothing much compared to some people here:

    ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
    Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme
    Gainward GeForce GTX 690
    Corsair Dominator GT DDR3 1866Mhz 32GB
    Win 7 Pro 64bit
    A bit on the fence about SSD, heard mixed reviews, but a 1TB WD VelociRaptor will suit me just fine.
    Case and cooling as appropriate.
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1200W
    ROCCAT Isku FX
    OCZ Behemoth
  • Some people need to shut the hell up about crap they know nothing about.

    Anyhow, had to find it...

    Dragon 22sv:
    CPU: Intel i7-3820 (3.6GHz, 6C/12T, 10MB)
    MB: Gigabyte GA-X79S-UP5-WIFI (it's actually a C602 - much more reliable than all the recalled X79 boards.)
    Chassis: Corsair 800D (considering swap to 900D)
    RAM: 32GB Mushkin in 2 x 16GB(4x4) 993995 kits
    SSD: Crucial m4 256GB
    Disk: 4x Western Digital RE4 1TB in RAID5
    Video: XFX Radeon HD7970 3GB "Double D" (the quiet one.)
    Sound: HT Omega eClaro
    PSU: Corsair AX860i
    Optical: Pioneer BDR-207MBK BDxl
    Display: 3x HP ZR2440w
    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit OEM
    Keyboard: Ducky DK9008G2
    Mouse: SteelSeries World of Warcraft Wireless
    Cooling: Noctua NH-D14

    Total: $4,171.63

    Would much rather have a smaller RAID5, but 1TB's the most reasonable at this point, relatively speaking. (Even 750GB drives give you slightly over 2TB usable in RAID5.)
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    What does Haliburton have to do with any of this?
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    BuddyJ said:

    What does Haliburton have to do with any of this?

    Apparently, Rootwyrm roots around for untapped oil reserves in his spare time.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    Back on topic...

    Right now, I'm toying with:

    Core i7 3770K
    Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H
    MSI HD7970 Lightning BE x2
    Vertex 4 256GB
    Corsair Dominator 2x8GB (x2) 1866 RAM

    I originally wasn't interested in WC given my lack of space to do anything interesting with it (like my old WC lanbox), but the 650D + dual rad is intriguing. Probably wouldn't put it on the graphics cards, which perhaps ironically would be the loudest parts, wouldn't they? Given that, any significant bonus over just doing a Noctua air-cooling route? Or would WCing the cards and leaving the processor on air be a silly alternative?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    You'll get superior but, more importantly, much quieter cooling with the Corsair H100. Plus it's really not much more money than a Noctua, and you'll have no space compatibility issues w/r RAM, etc.

    I would say that WCing the cards would be many times more expensive than the CPU, and a poor allocation of funds if you don't intend to aggressively overclock the GPUs. As it stands, the 7970 Lightnings are pretty quiet. You might also consider the Sapphire 7970 6GB Toxic and the Asus ROG-branded 7970, too, which are even quieter and/or even higher performance.

    Also I see your Corsair, but you may be able to get less expensive RAM of quality with G.SKILL or Kingston.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    Custom loop vs Noctua NH-D14 on an i7 2600K:
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    The full article is here. I've changed the layout a bit and switched to compression fittings, but the important bits are still the same.

    One piece of advice: decide whether you want to liquid cool the GPUs before you purchase them. If you decide to do it, make absolutely certain the GPUs use a reference layout. Otherwise it'll be nearly impossible to find water blocks for them. Gotta match it down to the exact model number too. I have a Gigabyte board that I though was a reference design. I was off by one character in the model. Turns out the one I got isn't a reference design. Can't find a block for it.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited January 2013
    Kingston doesn't have anything in a 2x8 kit outside of their value line at my retailer of choice convenience necessity, but I'll hunt around.

    I suppose the H100 is conveniently made precisely to fit the 650D? I'm further intrigued, though I've been wary of boxed offerings over self-assembled kits. I'll keep poking around.

    My thanks to you all. Keep 'em coming. :)
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Snarkasm said:

    I suppose the H100 is conveniently made precisely to fit the 650D? I'm further intrigued, though I've been wary of boxed offerings over self-assembled kits. I'll keep poking around.

    Boxed offerings aren't a bad option. The chart I posted above has the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer (the company's lowest model), which wasn't quite as good as the NH-D14, but it still does a good job. The H100 is probably quite a bit better, but not as good as a DIY loop.

    Are you planning to overclock at all?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    Yes, the 650D is specifically engineered to support all of Corsair's water cooling kits. The H100 is better than any heatsink for not a lot of extra money.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    shwaip said:
    That case is amazing. I want it.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    I don't think I need quite thaaaat much space, shwaipy. All my data lives elsewhere, and I'm down to 1 or 2 optical drives I damn near never use. One SSD spot, two 3.5s, and 2 5.25s would be enough for me, I think.

    Regarding OC, probably at least a little, like I did with the 920.
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    14x raid-0 with ssds?
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    Precisely, 512GB each. 7 TB of data available to go up in smoke at the first controller blip.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    It's worth noting: Banish your optical drives. Do it. You don't need them. It's so sleek and clean to have a case with no discs. I've not needed optical in ~4 years, and it's glorious.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Thrax said:

    It's worth noting: Banish your optical drives. Do it. You don't need them. It's so sleek and clean to have a case with no discs. I've not needed optical in ~4 years, and it's glorious.

    I do, but it's to convert my existing media for use with my HTPC.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    I sidestepped that problem by never having existing media.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    I'd agree, and it's tempting. I just don't know if I'm willing to have usable drives just sitting around somewhere. :P
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