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Canada votes today, here's what you need to know

oni_delsoni_dels Drunk French CanadianMontréal, Québec. Icrontian

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  • oni_delsoni_dels Drunk French Canadian Montréal, Québec. Icrontian

    Well, the prodigal son returns to Sussex dr.

  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    CONGRATS, CANADA! What a great day for your country!

    oni_delsIlriyas
  • oni_delsoni_dels Drunk French Canadian Montréal, Québec. Icrontian

    @primesuspect said:
    CONGRATS, CANADA! What a great day for your country!

    Harper out. Thats 10 kinds of awesome. Lets hope Trudeau will stand to his name. Anyways, at this point, it cant be worst.

    Ilriyas
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian

    Here we are with potential sarcasm on the Internet.
    Was this a good thing or bad thing?

    oni_dels
  • oni_delsoni_dels Drunk French Canadian Montréal, Québec. Icrontian

    @Ryder said:
    Here we are with potential sarcasm on the Internet.
    Was this a good thing or bad thing?

    Imagine if like Bush stayed 10years. Maybe 14. Would you be happy if he was kicked out drasticaly?

    primesuspect
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian

    @oni_dels said:
    Imagine if like Bush stayed 10years. Maybe 14. Would you be happy if he was kicked out drasticaly?

    I don't know, the mission was "accomplished" when he was in office.

  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Watch Slut, Mumble Hivemind Drone Austin, TX Icrontian

    @primesuspect said:
    Basically there have been 10 years of very right-leaning rule in Canada; most of it centered in Alberta and oil money (gee, sound familiar?). However, the people spoke and the left/center-left underdog party (third-tier party, imagine the Green party getting a President in the White House, for example) has won the majority, by a lot. The election showed how discontent the silent majority has become over Harper's increasing alienation of first nation peoples (indigenous people), women, and muslims in Canada. Harper has gone a little too overboard on the anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rhetoric and this election shows how people really feel about that.

    Liberals won, they're one of the biggest parties in Canada in terms of voters and funding. Your analogy would be more appropriate if the NDP won. NDP is also a major party in Canada, but generally comes in a distant third as an important left socialist opposition party and hasn't seen much success after Jack Layton died.

    Basically Canada's slightly more liberal Democrats won against the Canadian Republicans, and the Canadian GOP ruled for 10 years.

    primesuspectoni_delsTushon
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Baltimore, MD Icrontian

    Mature political discussion? Add this to the proof that Icrontic got old.

    oni_delsBuddyJGargoyle
  • SusurroSusurro Dubuque, IA Icrontian

    If it doesn't turn out well, at least we know the empire can take over.

    oni_dels
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Baltimore, MD Icrontian
    edited Oct 2015

    As an American can someone explain to me how this is going to impact the exports of maple syrup and blended whisky products?

    oni_dels
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    THERE GOES "MATURE"

    CBGnomeQueenoni_dels
  • IlriyasIlriyas The Syrupy Canadian Toronto, Ontario Icrontian
    edited Oct 2015

    I'm happy we kicked out Harper, incredibly so. He's shown time and time again that he has zero respect for the Democratic process, often working and passing bills behind the backs of the House or Senate, not to mention passing bills regardless of public opinion. (He dissolved Parliament early because he thought an early election wouldn't give his opponents enough time to solidify a platform)

    A multitude of his advisers and staff have been found guilty of various kinds of fraud, and there's suspicion that he focused so heavily on the racist rhetoric to distract from the Mike Duffy Debacle.

    Regarding economics the man dumped so much money into oil (He did become a politician in Alberta after all) that when the Saudi Oil barons lowered the price of gas (As opposed to drop production after they had a massive surplus, this was an incredibly intelligent move that greatly harmed their competitors.) our dollar/economy, previously fairly even with the US took a nose dive and now the dollar is lucky to be worth 75 cents US.

    His idea to fix the economy was to throw more money at oil and wait for the price per barrel to go back up.

    My biggest concern, being a CRIM student was his legal policies.

    Bill C-51 the 'Tough on Crime Act' saw a return in draconian legal practices, overcriminalization, increased prison funding, etc. It was disgusting. (Brief: The Parole board has a 7% recidivism rate on offenders who undergo their rehab programs, prison is close to 56%. Rehab costs about 37500 per person per year whereas keeping that felon in prison costs around 160000 per person per year.) Not to mention the issues that came out of Bill C-24 (Hey man if you're an immigrant or dual citizenship we can revoke it ON SUSPICION of terrorism, effectively giving rise to second class citizens)

    endrant.

    That said, I'm a little hesitant about Trudeau. The man doesn't seem to have a solid plan for fixing the economy and while he doesn't support Bill C-24 he is a supporter of the Tough on Crime Act, so little has changed from a legal perspective.

    Personally I would've preferred Liberal minority with NDP opposition or NDP minority/majority but they've always been considered a little too far left for the larger population.

    I'm optimistic though, his father (Pierre) was an amazing Prime Minister (If you believe anyone who isn't an old conservative) and it looks like he has the wherewithal to trust his advisers on matters he's lacking/supports a similar platform to his father.

    TLDR

    Harper was awful, great he's out.

    Would've preferred Mulcair but Trudeau is good too.

    The future will tell if this is good or bad but it can't be worse than Harper.

    Thraxoni_delsprimesuspectRahnalH102
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Baltimore, MD Icrontian

    @primesuspect said:
    THERE GOES "MATURE"

    Just keepin it real

    oni_dels
  • ardichokeardichoke Icrontian

    The sad thing is the Canadian right-wing equivalent of our Dubya is still pretty liberal by our standards. I'm not aware of any push in Canada under Harper to do away with socialized medicine...

  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Watch Slut, Mumble Hivemind Drone Austin, TX Icrontian

    Eh, Harper really isn't any more liberal than the other conservative world leaders that came to power in the Age of Terrorism. It's just that socialized medicine is a Canadian institution, and repealing it is political suicide, not to mention an impossible goal wrt to the electorate.

    By most other public policies put forth by Harper, he's quite similar to GWB. Supermax prison spending, ballooning military spending, deep cuts for women/minority/reproductive health programs, regressive tax plans, tax cuts for the wealthy, preferential treatment for corporations, and the Canadian equivalent of the Patriot Act (bill C-51), just to name a few.

    oni_delsIlriyas
  • _k_k P-Town, Texas Icrontian

    My friends in America's hat. How likely is it that y'all will legalize, tax, and regulate marijuana in your country given the new PM's campaign declarations?

    oni_dels
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Watch Slut, Mumble Hivemind Drone Austin, TX Icrontian

    MJ is decriminalized in most Canadian municipalities, if not de jure, then certainly de facto. Getting busted with 1oz or less results in a civil citation in most of the big cities.

    I'd say national MJ legalization has a 60% chance.

    oni_dels
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited Oct 2015

    Under Harper, Canada fared probably best of any of the G7 countries economically through the tough times of the past 7 years....he is, after all, an economist. The Duffy scandal, meh...every party goes through similar at one time or another....sponsorship scandal, anyone (Liberals, and involving hundreds of $millions, not tens of thousands)?

    His biggest failing was the muting of the members of his own party, he essentially runs parliament as his own personal fiefdom/quasi dictatorship, and MPs who spoke out against the party line quickly paid consequences dire to their political careers. For that reason alone, he had to go.

    There's a lot of fear west of Ontario that we'll go back to the dark times where we had no voice in the governing of the country, and that our resources will be used to pay for the indulgences of Ontario and Quebec, as it was in the past.

    oni_dels
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    Damn, that is impressive

    oni_delsRahnalH102
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
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