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View Poll Results: Who will win this years Tour de France?
Lance Armstrong 25 100.00%
Jan Ulrich 0 0%
Tyler Hamilton 0 0%
Alexandre Vinokourov 0 0%
Joseba Beloki 0 0%
Roberto Heras 0 0%
Iban Mayo 0 0%
Other 0 0%
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oCoMiK
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Tour de France

That's right everyone, IT'S TOUR TIME.... And Lance Armstrong is attempting to win the tour an unprecedented six straight times, something that no other tour rider has ever done.

I truly believe the odds are stacked against Armstrong from achieving this goal BUT Lance has proven time and time again that he's a tough guy to bet against...

So my pick is Armstrong with Jan Ulrich bridesmaid again... Tyler Hamilton's focused but it will be tough for him to break into the top 5 if his main competitors are still alive come the ride into Paris.
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Tour de Lance baby.

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I'm not well versed in the profiles of the riders but for Lance to win again would be a miracle so ima vote against him.

Betcha he gets caught in a doping scandal

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Silly canadian, they ride bikes in the Tour de France, not canoes!
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They said that before the last TdF..... It would be a MIRACLE if he won FIVE IN A ROW
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Screw france, go lance!
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With a win this year he'll be the undisputed best ever. Pretty good motivation, I think.

Go Lance!!!
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Yes, I believe Lance will win his 6th Tour, but we will not know who will win until the very last days. Every other team, every other rider, is gunning for 1 person.
No one in the Tour is as miticulous in their preparation as Lance is. Did anyone else go and ride all the last weeks stages? Lance has, several times.
But no one ever wins the Tour alone. And the "Posties" are, by far the best team, out there.
Histoy is about to be made

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How bout a tour update.... Looks like I should have done a little research before I posted my poll!

Vinokourov was injured in the spring and didn't make the tour this year.
Beloki is having some problems with his new team and isn't riding the tour.
Iban Mayo was caught up in a horrific crash today that has left him about four minutes behind where he should be.

Hamilton and Ulrich are still alive... Keep an eye on Simoni as well...

If you have OLN (Outdoor Life Network) I would recommend that you catch at least one or two mountain stages... Stage 13 looks like a mother with two category one (think STEEP and LONG) and an Hors category (HC) climb, the individual time trial up L'Alpe d'Huez, or stage 17...
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Lance's biggest strength is on the hill segments, which we haven't gotten to yet. thats where Lance usually takes the lead (which he has to keep til the end)
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Jan's only hope is if Lance's calves explode.
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LawnMM
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Lance's biggest strength is on the hill segments, which we haven't gotten to yet. thats where Lance usually takes the lead (which he has to keep til the end)
Which he has no trouble doing. They all run about the same times in the stages. The reason lance wins is because he blows them all away in the mountains and they can't produce the same explosion to catch up.
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...The reason lance wins is because he blows them all away in the mountains and they can't produce the same explosion to catch up.
I'm rooting for him all the way, but the reason 6X has never been done is that the mountains are where age takes its toll.

Who is the oldest (modern) winner of the TdF?

My money is still on lance, despite the distractions...
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I'm rooting for him all the way, but the reason 6X has never been done is that the mountains are where age takes its toll.

Who is the oldest (modern) winner of the TdF?

My money is still on lance, despite the distractions...
Indeed. Keep in mind though the other 5x'ers didn't do it straight, I don't believe anyway. I haven't looked at that in a while. If you win 5 tours over 15 years...yeah, mountains are gonna take their toll. Lance won all his in a straight shot. I think he's the only one that did that, but I could be wrong, my memory's fading on this topic.
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He is in 5h 16s behind. One challenger fell yesterday putting him almost 4min back.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=1834996
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oCoMiK
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First things first... Posties win the Team Time Trial and a familiar face is in Yellow... The bad news is that I don't believe the Posties want to have to defend the yellow jersey this early.

Indeed. Keep in mind though the other 5x'ers didn't do it straight, I don't believe anyway. I haven't looked at that in a while. If you win 5 tours over 15 years...yeah, mountains are gonna take their toll. Lance won all his in a straight shot. I think he's the only one that did that, but I could be wrong, my memory's fading on this topic.
Big Mig (MIguel Indurain) won five straight... He attempted six; however, he was unsuccessful... That was pretty tough to watch considering his dominance.
All of the five won the tour within close bunches... Most only missed by 1 year.
The reason lance wins is because he blows them all away in the mountains and they can't produce the same explosion to catch up.
Lance's success is due to his strength in the mountains but also his time trialing... Without both he would not have won as many tours as he has.
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Roll on the start of the new football season (soccer to you guys) is all I can say. Cant see the appeal in road cycling, although you've got to admire their fitness level. Well, those that aren't taking performance enhancing drugs that is, so that will be the two guys at the back of the pack
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Cant see the appeal in road cycling, although you've got to admire their fitness level...
Spend sometime in this thread and perhaps we'll change your opinion...
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Spend sometime in this thread and perhaps we'll change your opinion...

Lol, maybe but i prefer mountain biking Still I'll be rooting for Lance Armstrong, you just gotta admire his courage.
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Well, those that aren't taking performance enhancing drugs that is, so that will be the two guys at the back of the pack
They always say that about the winners. I remember a commercial lance did last year when that started flying around. He's riding his bike in the pouring rain as he narrates the commercial. Something along the lines of "I train hard and I win. People ask me what I'm on...what am I on? I'm on my bike 16 hours a day busting my ass. What are you on?"
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Is this a lopsided vote, or what?
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Lol, maybe but i prefer mountain biking.
So does Hans Rey but you'll find him at the Tour doing some work for Outdoor Life Network.

For those of you who have never heard of Hans Rey, he can take a moutain bike to places you would never think... He is just AMAZING!!!!!
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So does Hans Rey but you'll find him at the Tour doing some work for Outdoor Life Network.

For those of you who have never heard of Hans Rey, he can take a moutain bike to places you would never think... He is just AMAZING!!!!!
Heard of him? I've met him. He's the reason I got into trials riding.

However, I have to be honest, Hans Rey got it started...but I think Ryan Leech is about the most amazing thing to hit the bicycle.
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He is just AMAZING!!!!!
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oCoMiK
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They always say that about the winners. I remember a commercial lance did last year when that started flying around. He's riding his bike in the pouring rain as he narrates the commercial. Something along the lines of "I train hard and I win. People ask me what I'm on...what am I on? I'm on my bike 16 hours a day busting my ass. What are you on?"
That was a great commercial, LMM...

What the common lay person doesn't realize about cycling is that these guys are tested constantly.... It's not like the NFL or many of the other sports where random checks are done but only a few are actually tested...

I forget the actual number (and I believe Lance talks about it in his book) but out of 23 days he may get tested a little less than 20% of the time. That is considerably more than most professional atheletes as it relates to one event.

Also keep in mind that we're not just talking steroids, EPO, and many of the other commonly known banned substances. Many a rider has had to abandon the tour because of a wasp sting, bone fracture, cold, allergies, etc... This is typically done because many of the medicines they could take to alleviate these problems are on the "banned list".

I'm not looking to turn this into a doping discussion thread.... I'd be happy to participate in one in another thread though. I'm really more interested in discussing the Tour and having everyone see how truly remarkable these guys are. AND WHAT A GREAT SPORTING EVENT THE Tour de France is!!!!!
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Heard of him? I've met him. He's the reason I got into trials riding.

However, I have to be honest, Hans Rey got it started...but I think Ryan Leech is about the most amazing thing to hit the bicycle.
You gotta remember I'm pretty old... I'm remember when Tinker Juarez was still racing BMX.
Hands Ray is what all of my man-touching friends used to call me, what a coincidence!
Thanks for the observation QCH... Not quite sure what to say!
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welp he has the yellow! its the beginning of the end for everyone else now
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You gotta remember I'm pretty old... I'm remember when Tinker Juarez was still racing BMX.
His fame was pretty short lived, at least in the mountain bike world. Was on top for a while, then it fell apart after the 96 olympics. Trials came a long way since Hans was riding. They're doing some really insane stuff right now. Hans is the man, he got it all started...but some of the new riders are just insane. There's video of Ryan riding his bike across a chain between posts suspended in the air. A chain! Its crazy.
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It will probably be Lance, once again.
But I will cheer for Team CSC (the danish team).
I am not all that interested in TdF though.
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BUMP - Rest Day...

Get ready everyone! The Tour really begins now with a trip into the Pyrenees starting in a couple of days.

Lance believe this is where many of the moves will be made and will probably decide the winner. That's a pretty big statement considering the Alpine stages look to be awfully tough as well.
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!!! THIS JUST IN !!!!

from Sports Illustrated
Here comes Lance
Armstrong trims four minutes off overall lead, charges into second place
From Sixth position yesterday to Second Place!!!! He trimmed 4 minutes off the lead. That's 12 stages down out of 20 stages.

Stay tuned!!!!
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Got to love patrionism. So, here we go......

Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Oi Oi Oi. There, i said it.

Go Robbie McEwen.
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Got to love patrionism. So, here we go......

Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Oi Oi Oi. There, i said it.

Go Robbie McEwen.
Keep an eye on stu'y O'Grady... The Aussie's are representing great this year!!!!

As for todays stage, WTF?.... When did Ivan Basso get the power to hang with the big boyz in the mountains... Lance looked frazzled and Basso looked like he was on a sunday cruise...

IMO Lance wanted the stage win but just not enough to sprint it out at the line (I'm not so sure he could have won the stage though). I know his stage wins will come but a win on the Tourmelet would have been a nice repeat of history...

If I was dissappointed with anything, it was the fact that Jan did not live up to expectations. Ulrich is a GREAT cyclist and I thought he looked on-form to give the Texan a run for his money. Maybe it was just one bad day in the saddle but Jan has some serious time to make up. He better get busy!!!!

Tomorrow will be another great stage... Damn I love the Tour!!!!
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UPDATE! Stage 13

And the supposed competitors just keep on dropping...

Tyler Hamiltion has abadoned! Huge surprise.

Iban Mayo attempted to abadon BUT his team and the crowd around him talked him out of it.

Lance may be in yellow by the end of the days racing...
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Armstrong wins Stage 13!!!!! He's only 22 Seconds behind the leader, Thomas Voeckler.

So Should Lance go for 7th straight?
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So Should Lance go for 7th straight?
Honestly, I wouldn't if I was him. Almost nobody wins 5 times. Only a few people have done that. If he wins 6 he'll be number 1. I doubt anybody will be able to pull off 6 wins, but in his absence that may be possible, but it still won't be 6 wins in a row...which we're likely never to see again.

If it was me, I'd retire while I was number 1 and in the lead. Why go for 7 and give somebody that satisfaction of beating you when your heart isn't in it. He wants this, thats why he'll win. Once he's number one though, his desire to keep going is probably gonna dwindle a bit. I'd anticipate that happenin' and just figure on retiring while on top.
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Honestly, I wouldn't if I was him. Almost nobody wins 5 times. Only a few people have done that. If he wins 6 he'll be number 1. I doubt anybody will be able to pull off 6 wins, but in his absence that may be possible, but it still won't be 6 wins in a row...which we're likely never to see again.

If it was me, I'd retire while I was number 1 and in the lead. Why go for 7 and give somebody that satisfaction of beating you when your heart isn't in it. He wants this, thats why he'll win. Once he's number one though, his desire to keep going is probably gonna dwindle a bit. I'd anticipate that happenin' and just figure on retiring while on top.
I happen to agree with you 100%, Lawn. Hopefully he'll quit at the top of his form and go on with his life. I also think it will be a very long time before someone comes along that will even have a chance of matching his performance, much less beating him.
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Armstrong wins Stage 13!!!!! He's only 22 Seconds behind the leader, Thomas Voeckler.

So Should Lance go for 7th straight?
He's already committed for a 7th attempt because of Discovery channel taking over the main sponsorship of the team.
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BTW lance has been test 397 times in the last 6 years more than any other athlete in any sport and he has passed 397 times
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Well, unless Lance has a big accident or self destructs, it looks like he has this one in the bag too.
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Go Lance! Unprecedented winning streak woo!
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Go Lance! Unprecedented winning streak woo!
Ha ha ha... I'd love to see the family I stayed with in Spain now... I was there during the Tour in 1996 and saw it come through Pamplona... They made a big deal about Miguel Indurain and how he'd won 5 in a row making him one of the greatest... Well that was true then, but Ha! an American is now the greatest Cyclist ever!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!!
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