HP goes open source with WebOS

primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' BoopinDetroit, MI Icrontian
edited December 2011 in Science & Tech

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  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Well that's awesome. WebOS - Android mashup, here we come.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Gruber's take was spot-on: "I think this is just the difference between putting your dog down and letting it free on a distant mountain road."

    I'm puzzled why their press release references "the open source community" as if that's a coherent entity. I highly doubt there's anyone out there to take on the amount of work required to get this moving again.
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Maybe HTC will further the development.

    /me hides
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Lincoln, the "underground" developer community for WebOS is quite large, and have had a great influence on the development of the OS up until now. They will be ecstatic about this. I would say that the necessary community to make this project work is already in place, and the gate has just been opened.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    djmeph wrote:
    Lincoln, the "underground" developer community for WebOS is quite large, and have had a great influence on the development of the OS up until now.
    There is a massive, gaping chasm between app development and OS development. All the iOS (by far the most popular platform for devs) devs in the world combined would not band together to build iOS6 if Apple ditched it and open sourced, and iOS has the advantage of A) Not being last into the race and B) not having been on hiatus the last year or more.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    I was referring to OS development as well. The homebrew community has had much more influence over the development of the OS than you think. Things like COMPCACHE and advanced clock management were adopted because they were developed by homebrewers.
  • BandrikBandrik Elkhart, IN Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Well that's an awesome surprise. Blessing in disguise that HP "dropped the ball" with WebOS, as we now have it as open source? We will see.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Didn't see that happening. I was expecting them to keep it a little longer first and attempt to make it a lightweight OS for devices. I have to agree with Matt, I don't think this will move much now.
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    It's the best move HP could have made. It's good PR, they had a dead asset, one that was never going to yield a return for them. They could kill it altogether and gotten nothing from it, they maybe, possibly could have sold it for pennies on the dollar, but then run the risk that someone else could succeed where they failed and make them appear even less competent (if that's possible), but if you make it open source, and it flops, at least there is that nice PR that goes with it, if it succeeds, you can at least take a little credit down the road and possibly find a way to leverage it to make a little money off of it later.

    It's the only move that made sense.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Hmmm... I was considering trying to get the Touchpad on Sunday... This will probably push me over the edge... As djmeph said the WebOS homebrew community is pretty large so this could be a great thing for WebOS...
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    And it's worth noting that they've said they're going to work on new hardware for webOS as well. It's not like they're just putting it out to pasture. They're just allowing a larger pool of devs to contribute towards something they'll use commercially for free.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    I think the Android community is going to go fucking ballistic with ports. WebOS is a *NIX OS just like Android, which means shared libs and drivers.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Thrax wrote:
    I think the Android community is going to go fucking ballistic with ports. WebOS is a *NIX OS just like Android, which means shared libs and drivers.
    Yes, someone had already developed an Android emulator that worked with apps from an early version of Android, but it had disappeared at some point. I would like to see more of this kind of thing popping up.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    So I managed to pick up the 32GB for $150 in the eBay sale. I am looking forward to my first tablet. I loved WebOS on my old Palm Pre...
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Had there been some 16gb models left for $99 I might of snagged one just to play with, but I wasn't going to pay $150 since that is approaching Kindle Fire/Nook Color territory.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Yes, but the Touchpad is superior to the Fire/Nook in just about every way.
  • BandrikBandrik Elkhart, IN Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    There's more to a device than just its hardware specs, or even a list of functionality. User experience is a big part of it too. Not knocking the Touchpad and the slick WebOS, but rather pointing out that some may just prefer the more streamlined Fire/Nooks.
  • MiracleManSMiracleManS Chambersburg, PA Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Bandrik wrote:
    There's more to a device than just its hardware specs, or even a list of functionality. User experience is a big part of it too. Not knocking the Touchpad and the slick WebOS, but rather pointing out that some may just prefer the more streamlined Fire/Nooks.

    Especially when some of us aren't really big fans of the 9-10 inch tablets.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Bandrik wrote:
    There's more to a device than just its hardware specs, or even a list of functionality. User experience is a big part of it too. Not knocking the Touchpad and the slick WebOS, but rather pointing out that some may just prefer the more streamlined Fire/Nooks.

    Oh, I definitely agree with this. As far as a small form factor and an eReader goes the Nook/Kindle can't be beat. Some people prefer the smaller tablets and/or eReaders, but as far as 10 inch tablets, it's hard to beat the pricepoint of $150 for a dual core tablet with 32GB of storage. Granted WebOS doesn't have nearly the amount of apps that Android has, but I'll only be using it for Couch Surfing the internet and playing the occasional game of Angry Birds, so for that it is a fantastic price.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Honestly, how long will it be before those touchpads are running Android?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Touchpads are already running Android.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Yep, I'll probably install the Dual Boot option so I can enjoy WebOS but still have Android to play Netflix and a few other apps that don't run on WebOS.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Thrax wrote:
    Touchpads are already running Android.

    This excites me.
  • drasnordrasnor Starship Operator Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    Devs should be able to port Android or WebOS to any device whose kernel sources are available.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    The problem for all such ports is always the bootloader. There is no standard solution for bootloaders in the Android world, so each device has its own unique way of bootstrapping the OS.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    I am typing this on my new HP Touchpad. I'm loving it so far, I cannot wait to see what the WebOS Community can come up with now that it is open source.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2011
    neato, are you coming to ICNY?
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    Nope. Sorry, I'll be staying down here.
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