Quoting primesuspect

Hahah how could I hold growing up in Cleveland against you; I'm from DETROIT

I agree though; I've noticed the same attitude in Chicago, and in friends from Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and New York.

We get shit done. Sometimes the dirty way, but we get shit done.

All of our grandparents were either miners, steelworkers, or factory workers, I think that has a lot to do with it.

That is SO true. My great grandfather was a coal miner. Fact, crushed his legs in the mines.

And if your Dad was anything like mine, he had saying after saying. One was "behind every great looking lawn is a tired teenager." I was the tired teenager. Funny, I look back and I worked my ass off everywhere! I even worked on a frickin' farm for a while. Now that's real work.

People ask me about things being tough, and I look back and think, I got it easy, my parents and their parents had it tough.