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maxclark
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6 Oct 2007, 6:22pm

Will Gears of War run on my laptop?

hey guys,
its been AGES since i last been here, it's changed..i remember it used to be short-media...
so...i am looking forward to the release of the Gears of War for PC, i could never play shooter games on consoles anyway...and was wondering if my laptop could play it relatively nicely...it's the HP dv9000t, 2.00Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB ram and 512MB Nvidia Go 7600... i know its a demanding game, and was wondering if my comp could handle the game, and still be enjoyable to play...
alright thanks guys, hope to hear from you...
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6 Oct 2007, 6:43pm
It'll probably run poorly.
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6 Oct 2007, 7:26pm
Quoting Thrax
It'll probably run poorly.
WHAT!

Do you need a supercomputer to play video games now days?

I'm looking at getting a T7500, 2GB Ram, 8600M GT. If that damn thing doesn't play some games I'll send it back.
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6 Oct 2007, 7:38pm
the 8600M GT is significantly more powerful than the 7600 go in that laptop that he's talking about, Andy. You'll be able to play all current games very well on your system.

As for "Do you need a supercomputer to play video games", actually yeah, pretty much.
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6 Oct 2007, 10:03pm
You'll be fine you just won't be able to run max settings. A good game engine will run smooth on anything recent if you get the quality settings just right.

sounds like a pretty nice laptop to me!
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15 Oct 2007, 1:37am
Quoting mas0n
You'll be fine you just won't be able to run max settings. A good game engine will run smooth on anything recent if you get the quality settings just right.

sounds like a pretty nice laptop to me!

So what are you saying, core 2duo doesn't match up to xbox 360?
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15 Oct 2007, 1:39am
Personally. I play NFS Most Wanted on a 1.4mhz pentiun M on medium settings and it plays fine. Its just about gears of war from what I've seen.
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15 Oct 2007, 1:42am
Oh, and that 2.0 core 2 duo is more than twice faster than 1.4M
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15 Oct 2007, 1:43am
Oh yea 32 mgs graphic card. your 512 will out do 36o
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15 Oct 2007, 3:11am
Quoting rulsinD
So what are you saying, core 2duo doesn't match up to xbox 360?
Whether or not a 2.0GHz Core 2 can keep up with a triple core 3.2GHz Xenon is overshadowed by the fact that the nVIDIA 7600 Go is nothing compared to ATI's Xenos.

Regardless, we are talking apples and oranges here. My original comment stands...
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15 Oct 2007, 3:41am
Most new games are hardware whores....unfortunately
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15 Oct 2007, 4:02am
Quoting tmh88
Most new games are hardware whores....unfortunately
That's why I'd rather have a 360 and not have to worry about upgrading it every two years... or having games only run on the latest and greatest (pfft) operating system.
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15 Oct 2007, 7:12am
Well, Since the obsolescence bar is set to six months now thanks to Intel's Core2 line, Your 360 may not last another full year. 80 core processors by 2011, That tells me that a three core IBM cell isn't going to stack up too well. And I thought the 360 used the hollywood?

From this one's point of view, console gaming is pointless because the console CANNOT be upgraded as a whole. Sure, you can hack it and add a bigger hard drive, or increase the heatsink efficiency, or set it on fire or whatever. Right now the most powerful console is the PS3 with 8 usable cores( I heard that somewhere and that they were based on the PPC architecture? ) Anyway, there's no real point in debating the console vs pc.

Your laptop is standing on the cliff of obsolescently, staring down into the computer world's grim reaper's living room. Only because of your video card. So get a new one. Call HP and ask them if they'll sell you an 8600Go for your laptop. I don't see why they wouldn't.
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15 Oct 2007, 10:22am
you can upgrade you laptop graphics card?? i thought that wasnt possible...
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15 Oct 2007, 1:19pm
On newer models such as yours, it is VERY possible. They work like normal express cards..
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15 Oct 2007, 1:49pm
thats good to know since I have the same lap top as maxclark
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15 Oct 2007, 2:06pm
Quoting TheGr81
That's why I'd rather have a 360 and not have to worry about upgrading it every two years... or having games only run on the latest and greatest (pfft) operating system.
exactly why I have a 360. Runs perfectly on my xbox for $350, instead of running poorly on a computer that costs $1000. And I get to play it on a 32" screen. Even still, a ps3 which costs $500 i think would destroy most computers that cost like $1200+ for gaming.
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15 Oct 2007, 4:46pm
Quoting Trumandrummer
thats good to know since I have the same lap top as maxclark
aren't we in luck then???? i have contacted HP to see if such an upgrade is possible... hopefully it will be so
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15 Oct 2007, 6:19pm
Well the 360 and ps3 actually have about the same processor, and as for gears of war on 360 I played it and its not all that smooth, bugs do occur and as for the game itself the one for pc will be almost twice as long with more new episodes etc and again you'll be fine. Another thing is that I play F.E.A.R on 360 which is likewise about the same requirements as Gears of War which is like a pentium 4 between 2-3ghs, your laptop is faster. For system requirements you can always check at system requirements lab, Google it and you will see that on any of the game s you have more than just the minimum requirements.
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15 Oct 2007, 11:59pm
Quoting tmh88
exactly why I have a 360. Runs perfectly on my xbox for $350, instead of running poorly on a computer that costs $1000. And I get to play it on a 32" screen. Even still, a ps3 which costs $500 i think would destroy most computers that cost like $1200+ for gaming.
It all depends on the user I suppose. Me personally, I'm going to have a freaking super computer regardless of whether or not I game. It's my only hobby that requires money. I don't own or watch a television, so all of the money the average person pours into that or into anything more expensive than my 1998 Civic, I take and pour into my PC.

Then, I take the $350 you spent on a 360 and I buy a rockin video card.

And while you play on your 32" screen at 720p from 8 feet back, I play at 1680 x 1050 on a 22" screen, and only sit 3 feet away.

It's whatever gets the job done i guess, we're both gamin...
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16 Oct 2007, 12:01am
Quoting rulsinD
Well the 360 and ps3 actually have about the same processor
Pass to the left, please.
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16 Oct 2007, 1:41am
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Well the 360 and ps3 actually have about the same processor
What on earth are you talking about?

360: 3 core CPU made by Intel

PS3: 8 core Cell SPE made by Sony

Absolutely, almost stunningly different architectures. Two processors could barely be more different.

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16 Oct 2007, 4:24am
Quoting Your Amish Daddy
On newer models such as yours, it is VERY possible. They work like normal express cards..
That would be a wrong statement... HP does not offer removable graphics in its Laptops... not one model can be upgraded. They use onboard memory with mounted onboard GPU's

Now systems like higher end Dells, Alienware, ASUS & Voodoo laptops do have removable GPU's but in most cases you can't find anyone who sells newer GPU's by themselves.
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16 Oct 2007, 4:26am
Quoting maxclark
aren't we in luck then???? i have contacted HP to see if such an upgrade is possible... hopefully it will be so
I am willing to bet they will say a upgrade isn't possible because your GPU is built onto the Motherboard
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16 Oct 2007, 4:51am
Alright then... so my 7600 should be able to handle the graphical requirements gears of war is demanding?
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16 Oct 2007, 2:04pm
Most of this depends on what settings you have the game set on.

slower system = lower settings

PC Gaming FTW BTW!
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16 Oct 2007, 2:34pm
Quoting Zuntar
Most of this depends on what settings you have the game set on.

slower system = lower settings

PC Gaming FTW BTW!
i don't know what settings it would be set on, i was hoping i would get an idea on what settings i would be playing this game...with the laptop that i have...
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16 Oct 2007, 2:42pm
When it comes to settings, reduce everything to ultra low or lower, and go upwards step by step, reducing and increasing settings until you find the optimal performance/graphic setting!
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16 Oct 2007, 5:30pm
Quoting primesuspect
What on earth are you talking about?

360: 3 core CPU made by Intel

PS3: 8 core Cell SPE made by Sony

Absolutely, almost stunningly different architectures. Two processors could barely be more different.

What I ment was that speed wise they are about equal, or atleast on all comparison charts I've seen. The main difference that puts ps3 in the lead is hddvd drive and 512 graphics card, other than that and these being minor things, they are equals. Personally xbox 360, more features cooler firmware.
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16 Oct 2007, 5:53pm
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What I ment was that speed wise they are about equal, or atleast on all comparison charts I've seen. The main difference that puts ps3 in the lead is hddvd drive and 512 graphics card, other than that and these being minor things, they are equals. Personally xbox 360, more features cooler firmware.
Are you just pulling **** out of your ass? PS3 = Blue Ray
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16 Oct 2007, 6:17pm
Your 7600 should run on medium setting at 1440 x 900 if your system has 2GB of ram... you might be able to go High if you lower the screen res.
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So what do those specs mean to someone stupid like me?
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So what do those specs mean to someone stupid like me?
Tempting, ohh so tempting......




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16 Oct 2007, 8:30pm
I think they will last about the same.
quad core supposedly matches that anyways
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17 Oct 2007, 4:07am
i want to fight the 4 story tall monster in Gears of War for PC...
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17 Oct 2007, 5:39pm
Oh yeah. By the way the one for 360 is exremely short to the extant that when I thought the game was just about to really begin it really ended so,......
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21 Oct 2007, 6:35am
Quoting mas0n
Quoting rulsinD
Well the 360 and ps3 actually have about the same processor
Pass to the left, please.
Pass to the left, please.
hahaha

If game developers didn't throw in as many bells and whistles as they do to make games incredibly demanding as far as number processing goes, the nearly entire hardware market would have no reason to live; at least, as far as home computer products go... Therefore, I plan my budget around my computer.

They should simply include a mod of UT3 when it is released, with several weapons and jumping disabled and a chainsaw and torque bow added and call it Gears of War.
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