Halo 3, please inquire within
*Official disclaimer* this thread is not for trolling halo 3. Flames will be met with marshmallows.
hmm.. does stating such a thing negate it from the start? Oh well, here we go.
What's the deal with Halo 3?
I'm, going to lay it on the table right now. I despise the series. I used to love Halo, but I never thought it was the end all be all game. I just thought it was OK. And being a serious PC gamer, it had nothing real to offer me.
I've never understood the buzz surrounding these games. Fan boys aside, I can't understand the luster, the spark, the muse that attracts gamers to this series. Most PC gamers agree with me, and I've spent my fair share of years debating against the game and why nothing it does is new and why PC gamers have been playing better shooters for years.
I've given the series a fair chance. I've beaten Halo 1 and 2, and played a bit of Halo 3. I've played a lot of multiplayer in the games as well, but mostly the first two. I'm certainly educated on the series, and I'm simply not a PC fanboy that wants to diss a game simply because it's popular.
I'm an informed gamer looking for perspective and objective viewpoints.
As I said, I'm not looking for a flame war. I would just like to hear your opinions as to why this game is so big. I understand that I am, for the most part, preaching to the choir regarding the game, but hopefully someone has something that I've been missing.
And please, don't just say 'it's the multiplayer, man.' Because it's not. The multiplayer is OK, but not outstanding and certainly not compelling.
To me the games are mediocre at best. When I play or watch others play, the game just feels aimless, there doesn't seem to be any real objective or progress gained. Multiplayer matches seem slow and void of life, just people running and gunning in environments that are too large, and there is very little teamwork and collaboration going on.
The games just don't seem to have the true strength behind them to warrant the defacto title of 'OMG BEST SHOOTER EVAR'. Perhaps it's because XBox 360 gamers have nothing else... but then again Weezer is a PC gamer who loves Halo 3.
I just don't get it. Any help here?
hmm.. does stating such a thing negate it from the start? Oh well, here we go.
What's the deal with Halo 3?
I'm, going to lay it on the table right now. I despise the series. I used to love Halo, but I never thought it was the end all be all game. I just thought it was OK. And being a serious PC gamer, it had nothing real to offer me.
I've never understood the buzz surrounding these games. Fan boys aside, I can't understand the luster, the spark, the muse that attracts gamers to this series. Most PC gamers agree with me, and I've spent my fair share of years debating against the game and why nothing it does is new and why PC gamers have been playing better shooters for years.
I've given the series a fair chance. I've beaten Halo 1 and 2, and played a bit of Halo 3. I've played a lot of multiplayer in the games as well, but mostly the first two. I'm certainly educated on the series, and I'm simply not a PC fanboy that wants to diss a game simply because it's popular.
I'm an informed gamer looking for perspective and objective viewpoints.
As I said, I'm not looking for a flame war. I would just like to hear your opinions as to why this game is so big. I understand that I am, for the most part, preaching to the choir regarding the game, but hopefully someone has something that I've been missing.
And please, don't just say 'it's the multiplayer, man.' Because it's not. The multiplayer is OK, but not outstanding and certainly not compelling.
To me the games are mediocre at best. When I play or watch others play, the game just feels aimless, there doesn't seem to be any real objective or progress gained. Multiplayer matches seem slow and void of life, just people running and gunning in environments that are too large, and there is very little teamwork and collaboration going on.
The games just don't seem to have the true strength behind them to warrant the defacto title of 'OMG BEST SHOOTER EVAR'. Perhaps it's because XBox 360 gamers have nothing else... but then again Weezer is a PC gamer who loves Halo 3.
I just don't get it. Any help here?
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When it came out for Xbox, it was a console-defining game, and it might have been the best shooter for the console. I wouldn't be surprised if it really just snowballed from there, with the original players legitimately loving the game and becoming fans for the series and assimilating new fans because it was the most widely-played multiplayer on the consoles.
Since I started with Halo 2 on the 360, I was a little more objective than most, probably. Campaigns are fun enough; multiplayer is full of 12-year-olds that know more words than they ought to and is nothing but a jump-and-grenade-fest. It's fun for some; just not me, I think.
The game also had a storyline and cutscenes with a superhero badass main character. It's not overly steller like HL2, but it gave the average gamer a little more substance than the general shooter like Doom did.
And no, I don't care about the multiplayer. I'm just going for the general game and the essence/storyline. It was fun to play co-op - one drives a warthog, the other shoots everything. It was pretty fun. Plus, you fought aliens, which like robots, zombies and nazis are mother-appoved to be killed.
Though, many of the gamers were chumps. See perfect image of a Halo3 chump below:
And yes, I traded my fullstops for my last meal.
There's also the ability to mute all people on Halo 3 multiplayer so you never hadve to hear anyone at all.
(see: COD series.)
I guess that Halo provided one of the better shooter experiences for console gamers than they had seen. Thus making it the "it" game to play at the time. I would argue that comparatively our PC shooters had more to offer in almost every way. It was more "l33t" to pop some awp totin' bitch with a scout in Counter Strike than it was camping spawns on Halo with sticky grenades, which is what the majority of "good" players did on Halo for console. The second and third iterations of Halo IMO haven't added much to the Halo flavor but there wasn't much competition in the shooter arena for the Xbox. So Halo continues to flourish.
In the end it shall become what it will become.
I like the maps on Halo 2 the best, by the time Halo 3 came out, all the talk was about how great the new graphics were, lighting and reflections and all that.
But the maps in Halo 3 just aren't as fun for me. I've played it some, but I have to push myself to plug in the 360 to play it. The Halo 3 campaign on Easy level was pretty good, I was happy to see the whole story line through the 3 games.
Also, my 360 has some strange networking requirement. Apparently it doesn't like my cheap 5+ year old Dynex ethernet router, as I have to plug the Xbox's ethernet line directly into the modem to get it an internet connection.
Then after I'm done playing I have to reset the modem and router and everything so the PC's will have internet again.
Halo 2 maps like Ascension, Beaver Creek, and Lockout are my favorite ones.
Also red vs blue makes me want to play after watch it. Griffball is okay too.
**PS Suck it blue's**
All trolling aside, it's nothing groundbreaking. It's Half Life with plasma weapons and strange cowardly aliens with basically the same assortment of weapons, except with the added aforementioned plasma weapons.
Sure, I liked the first one. It was so basic and had a cult quality. The second comes out and they take all of that away, and they make it something unidentifiable--Foreign if you will. Three comes out and not only am I not impressed, I'm enraged. So, Xbox360 out the door. Stick to my PS3 I will. At least Sony has the guts to rip me off to my face.
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Really you don't have to explain your opinion, but I was a little surprised by the comparison. I respect your opinion and your right to express it. Carry on.
Welcome back.
I think Snarkasm has a rather good theory on it. Kids liked the first simply because there was nothing else, they stuck with it and became the rabid fanboys of today.
Good thoughts from everyone really. It confirmed more so to me what I already thought. It's a mediocre game that young'uns latched onto simply because there was nothing else.
You know, really explains with CoD4 became so popular so quick. An alternative to Halo for console MP shootan. Makes sense, gamers that knew better wanted something else.
I just hate that so many fanboys are blind to what they're playing. Why is the game good to them? It's not fun at all to me anymore, it's shortcomings far eclipse whatever good is left with the game. Not to mention the fact that I know I'd rather be playing TF2 or any number of better shooters on PC.
Well said.
Curious to hear Canti's thought. Get home from work and write!
But not indicative of any majority's behavior.
This kid had some serious psychological problems. Has. Has some.
But if Halo weren't around, it'd be HL2 or Doom or something taking the blame.
that's complete BS right there.....
he obviously knew what he was doing, he planned it....
When it comes to console shooters, Gears is much more deserving the praise than the Halo series does. Not the greatest game in the last few years, but definitely better than Halo.
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