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The "Everything is Different" Vanilla feature and bug discussion

primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposalDetroit, MI Icrontian
edited Dec 2011 in Our Community
First of all: WE KNOW. Everything has changed; things will be different and it's going to take a lot of work for @Lincoln to get things back to the way you're used to.

Please don't use this discussion to COMPLAIN. Please DO use this discussion to post things that you've noticed, bugs, or suggestions. Poor Lincoln is up to his eyeballs with things to fix and finish, so please, above all else: Be kind.

Thanks!
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  • LincLinc Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    We lost a few avatars, sorry :-/

    If anyone wants their bookmarks list cleared / reset let me know. It grabbed all your "subscribed threads" from vBulletin.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    If you're logged out, the template design is quite different from if you're logged in. Buttons and framesize, in particular
  • LincLinc Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    @NiGHTS You probably need to clear your browser cache.
  • CantiCanti =/= smalltime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9K18CGEeiI&feature=related Icrontian
    HOLY CRAP THIS IS SWEET!
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    My avatar is back. It took one single click to do it. So damn good.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    First bug I've noticed - odd timestamp errors.

    So in the "First" thread, Linc posted first, then Brian, then Piggeh, then Dan, then Canti, and finally me.

    Yet post times are all wonky, and it ended up re-ordering the posts incorrectly based on these false times.

    A cap: image
  • LincLinc Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    @UPSLynx Yeah, piggeh's comment didn't take timezone into account. Pretty sure this is a bug in Vanilla. We recently changed Vanilla to use UTC time in the database and I've gotten other reports like this. I'll be investigating tomorrow.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    Another bug - it seems when there is quoted text from before the migration, seems there is some odd recursive stuff going on, including the tags not functioning properly. For instance, this on the pony image thread:

    image

    The original text itself works just fine, but in my post where I quoted it, the tags show up and the images do not display.

    Spoiler tags, however, don't seem to work at all. As you can see in the display image that the bottom of that pic, image embedding is just fine outside of quoted circumstances.
  • LincLinc Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    Spoilers are broken, yes. That's gonna be low priority. The broken BBCode Quotes are a major PITA and will be dealt with soon.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    Somebody warn @CB. Entire site is spoiler until further notice.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    Awesome :D

    I'll leave you alone now. Nothing major to report outside of those. This is looking fantastic, dude.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    It's 6am. I've had half a glass of champagne. What am I doing?

    Posting. Bad idea.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    sstugf. YOU GUCCK OFF. FUCK
    Keto Prime is so much fun :D
  • BHHammyBHHammy Somewhere in Hell Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    Your profile/preferences page seems to have trouble with the popup "delete" buttons. Sometimes they appear, but you really gotta futz around with them to get them to work (and sometimes they don't appear at all).

    Other than that...well, I do suppose I'm going to love and tolerate the crap out of this new stuff. Someone's already brought up the broken tabs issue, so that's more of my reporting out of the way.

    EDIT: Actually, there's another one. Not sure if this is an oversight, or if I'm not finding it, but I can't find the button to allow you to edit the top post of a topic.
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    Somebody warn @CB. Entire site is spoiler until further notice.
    NOOOOOO!

    (Everything looks great!)

    Minor note: the terms flag and bookmark are confusing. You flag a thread, by clicking the star, and that makes it a bookmark? But you flag a post to report it to the mods?

    Perhaps the word 'flag' over the bookmark star should say 'bookmark' instead. :)

    Also there doesn't seem to be a way to flag the OP for mods to see, unless I'm just missing it.

    Edit: I see now: 'Flag' up by the OP is a separate button, not a label for the star. So, um... still confusing at first glance apparently?
  • GargoyleGargoyle Illinois Icrontian
    We could use an updated mod guide for what the new terms mean. I'm afraid to click on these or the thread options dropdown since I'm not sure which are mod tools and I might nuke a thread.
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    Yeah. So here we are. Fucking awesome, @Lincoln. ^5
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    There is a feature in our profiles 'Edit thumbnail'. I'm not sure if we're even using it, but whatever it's for, it doesn't successfully cave changes.

    Edit: Okay... I guess I was confused again. the thumbnail is my in-thread avatar? but when I click to change it, it resets every time. Rather than showing what it is currently, one must rechose the thumbnail from scratch each time. Not sure if that is expected behavior.

    and if that determines our avatar, where is our full avatar used? Just on our profile page?
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Punta Gorda, FL Icrontian
    Please clear my bookmarked list, I told vBulletin no bookmarks and apparently it just made notes and did not display them.
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    This is gonna take som getting used to, but we'll persevere. Looks good though!
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    I like that the OP is at the top of every page of a discussion, but I think it needs greater visual clues to show that it's not part of the linear discussion of that particular page.

    This, as example, makes the conversation seem out of sequence with nothing to visually notify the reader that the second post does not actually come after the first:

    (I was going to put an image of the top of the last page of the hair/shoes thread here, but I can't find the 'upload images' button)
  • drasnordrasnor Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    Is it possible to just flush the new messages counter for all my bookmarked threads? It basically says I haven't read any of them.
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    Press "mark all viewed"?
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    Great work @Lincoln. This is great :D
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    Change is bad. I hate change. The only things that should be changed are diapers. Therefore, I am leaving Icrontic forever.
    /quit
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    @drasnor @Jokke, exactly that, just click the tab and punch 'mark all viewed' - you might want to do that for everything, since it'll update you on posts from the time before time at the moment
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    @NiGHTS MUST READ ALL THE POSTS!
  • KoreishKoreish KCMO Icrontian
    Achievement Scale:

    That weird DQ9 achievement thing > Icrontic > Steam > Xbox/PS3
  • ardichokeardichoke Buttes Master B Lansing, MI Icrontian
    I just want to be say it's about the time! Ding dong vbulletin is dead! :-) also, I love that you finally have a mobile friendly layout. Now how do I turn email notification off? My phone has been blowing up all morning.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    "for @Lincoln to get things back to the way you're used to."

    I'll reserve all comments until then ;)
  • GnomeQueenGnomeQueen Giggles Mountain Dew Mouth Icrontian
    Ahhhh I'm 9 and what is this?!
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    @ardichoke under profile, my preferences: uncheck boxes.
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    The popup system seems to be lagging behind. No big deal, but I saw I had gotten a notification, and cheked it. Ok, return to main page. Ten minutes later, the popup says I got the notification. As i said, no biggie, but just FYI.
  • GnomeQueenGnomeQueen Giggles Mountain Dew Mouth Icrontian
    In a serious post, there's no place to comment on the TF2 Holidays news post.
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    Where is the button for flagging a single thread as read (not entire forum)? Like in the old days, you would just double click the symbol, if you know what I mean... Also, what button sends me straight to the last unread post in a thread (like the little arrow in the old days)? Now it just seems to sent me to the top of the thread..
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Punta Gorda, FL Icrontian
    @Jokke Well, on every page of a thread, Vanilla puts first post of thread at top, then next page worth - takes some getting used to.
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    Also, what button sends me straight to the last unread post in a thread (like the little arrow in the old days)? Now it just seems to sent me to the top of the thread..
    It looks like it's supposed to be sending us directly to the first unread by clicking, but it's only working on single page threads. Mutli-page threads just send you to the top of the last page. At first, I thought it was arbirtary. I didn't notice the pattern until this thread went from one page to two, and stopped working correctly.

  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    @straight_man @CB Thanks, I noticed now. It'll be fixed someday, I'm sure.
  • LincLinc Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    @CB That the "Flag" link is above the Bookmark star is an unfortunatey coincidence from my last minute hackery ("The OP options are missing!? SHIT!"). I will move them apart. They are 2 separate functions.

    Likewise, the lack of clarity in paging was a late-stage realization and will be fixed.

    Yes, the thumbnail editor resets every time. It's just how it works.

    @BHHammy What browser? Can you clear your cache and check again?

    @Gargoyle Don't click "Delete Discussion" and we'll make it! :p
  • LincLinc Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    @Jokke The notifications require you to be on the page for 30 seconds before they trigger. I may speed it up. For now, they will simply wait until you stop for 30 seconds.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Punta Gorda, FL Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    Um, Vanilla is sensitive to two sessions logged in from same user at same time - it slows down noticeably. Also, I have had lags even with old Icrontic with Firefox 8.0 and put it down to a very loaded server. However, I am running Firefox 8.0.1 in Windows 7 right now with almost no lag.

    So, if 8.0 lags try upgrading it to 8.0.1 -- one of the things fixed is that it caches less stuff which means it sorts through less when you hit same page again. YMMV as large caches in browsers can also cause them to lag at the sites they cached a lot of -- clean out cache and history if you have continued lags, but avoid cleaning out cookies if possible.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    anyway to change the font size? it is stupid huge

    are "New Posts" and "Go to first unread post" coming back?

    What about signatures? And some hyperlinks don't hyperlink, they just open another tab of the same discussion I'm viewing
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    @fatcat
    It looks like it's supposed to be sending us directly to the first unread by clicking, but it's only working on single page threads.

    For new posts, the "All" tab shows how many new posts in yellow under the title.

  • MAGICMAGIC Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian
    Should take some time to get used to but I'm liking the change. Good job Keebs.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    anyway to change the font size? it is stupid huge
    Probably not, unless it becomes a premium theme
    are "New Posts" and "Go to first unread post" coming back?
    New posts are posts with an indicator showing the number of new posts (yellow). Not sure about "go to first unread".
    What about signatures?
    Those are never coming back.
    And some hyperlinks don't hyperlink, they just open another tab of the same discussion I'm viewing
    That's a Matt question.

  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    Pretty disappointed to learn sigs are never coming back. They're a pretty essential component of the forum experience, imo.

    Alas. Site looks good. Nicely done.
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    anyway to change the font size?
    ctrl + [mousewheeldown]?

  • TiberiusLazarusTiberiusLazarus Dewmander Misery Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    Lots of badges show that no one has them, yet they show up in people's "My Badges" section.

    Pic:
    image

    Also: Things look good. Going to take some getting used to. Feels very... facebooky? Redditish?
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited Dec 2011
    anyway to change the font size?


    ctrl + [mousewheeldown]?

    that changes the entire site.

    It feels like vanilla is now 18/20/22? size font instead of what it was (10/12?)

    on a 30" and 24" monitor its huge.

    NOW, the quoted part of this post, the font size is smaller, and about the size preferable
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