That is disappointing to read. It's sad, the once mighty properties of ID are having trouble re finding their Glory. If anyone were to ask me about Doom 3 and Quake 4, I would say, solid experiences, but nothing innovative or special. When you think about it, the last truly innovative thing ID produced was the multilayer portion of Return to Castle Wolfenstein. The team based Multiplayer in that game was ahead of its time. It is a shame that ID has relegated itself to making games that are merely good instead great. ID was the trailblazer, the true innovator in the industry at one time, now they just seem like another player. Perhaps the Bethesda deal will give those old properties a nice shot in the arm?
Wolfenstein was the second 3D style game i ever played, loved it!!!!! Catacomb Abyss was my first!!
Absolutely disappointing to hear about the new one....not surprising though.
I remember playing catacombs when I was quite young. At the time, I didn't have the maturity or patience to figure it out, but the quote in the first graveyard always struck me as funny and I'll never forget it... "A family plot without spending a lot"
I bought this one and I would say the console-feel to it is what lets it down the most. This is the usual fair of checkpoints, oddly designed menus and limited graphical options topped off by an entertaining but not that special game.
Please wait until this one is a bit cheaper at which point it will be worth a shot. Not worth the 100 aussie dollars I paid for it sadly.
Wolfenstein was the second 3D style game i ever played, loved it!!!!! Catacomb Abyss was my first!!
Oh man, I forgot about that one! So awesome.
Great review, Kevin. I think you're spot on when you talk about why we loved early 3D shooters, and how these remakes just don't capture some of those elements. I think it's the same in RPGs, too. I spent tons of time in FF4 checking every wall or vase for hidden treats, but the kind of tricks that worked in the older graphic styles haven't really made it to modern games.
I loved wolfenstien.. but I'm not surprised the new release is nothing special. When we look back on it WITHOUT the rosy glasses of memory, old Wolfenstien blew too.
Doesnt change the fact that at the time it was the greatest game I'd ever gotten to play.
And I have to agree, Fragging hitler at the end was the greatest part of the game. Was just.. epic.
That pretty much sums up every id game since Doom 3: Not worth the full price, wait until it's $20 or so.
I'd include Doom 3 in with this as well. Never even bothered finishing that game. I've never seen 87 shades of black require so much power to render o_O
"Since" includes the reference noun, which is Doom 3.
since, synonyms: after, ago, following, from the time of, subsequent to, until now
Since can, but does not necessarily, include the reference. For instance, if I were to say "I have not driven a car since I was in that horrid accident" it's pretty clear that I was driving at the time of the horrid accident thus the reference is NOT included.
Sigh, no nostalgia for me, I wasn't allowed to play games like Wolfenstein, Doom or Hexen growing up
Somewhere around Halo 2 or Half Life 2 I finally got clear of all the rules—that's my parents for ya. Then again, I think it's good that they cared enough to know what I was playing growing up.
Das Icrontians wird sich genauso einer soliden aufbauenden Tätigkeit anpassen müssen, wie es andere Völker auch tun, oder es wird früher oder später einer Krise von unvorstellbarem Ausmaß erliegen!
My first was Doom (Knee Deep in the Dead on Ultra Violence? Time me!), then I got Wolfenstein on a game compendium CD a couple years later and thought it was dumb by comparison. Missed the boat on that one.
I'm with Lincoln on this, unfortunately. I played Doom extensively, long before I had the opportunity to play Wolfenstein. After the experiences with Doom, wolfenstein just couldn't get my attention.
Das Icrontians wird sich genauso einer soliden aufbauenden Tätigkeit anpassen müssen, wie es andere Völker auch tun, oder es wird früher oder später einer Krise von unvorstellbarem Ausmaß erliegen!
My German is a bit rusty but something about adapting otherwise something will happen?
It's a modification of one of Hitler's speeches on the Jews. This particular passage suggests they pursue "respectable, constructive work"(1) lest they succumb to a "crisis of unimaginable proportions."(2)
The implication was that they were destroying Germany with acts of finance which, because they were allegedly conducted behind closed doors, were cowardly and beneath respect. Hitler vowed that their "actions" would not be tolerated, and failing to find more respectable work, they would be destroyed.
(1) "Das Judentum wird sich genauso einer soliden aufbauenden Tätigkeit anpassen müssen" - Lit: Judaism in the same way [to] a solid building activity adapt must / Trans: The Jews must in the same way adapt to respectable, constructive work
(2) "Oder es wird früher oder später einer Krise von unvorstellbarem Ausmaß erliegen." - LIT: Or [Judaism] will sooner or later [to] a crisis of unimaginable proportions succumb. / Trans: "Or they will, sooner or later, succumb to a crisis of unimaginable proportions."
I once gave my junior high science teacher a Wolfenstein demo for his Mac, and he didn't give us any work the last week of class. He just sat there and played.
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Absolutely disappointing to hear about the new one....not surprising though.
Please wait until this one is a bit cheaper at which point it will be worth a shot. Not worth the 100 aussie dollars I paid for it sadly.
Oh man, I forgot about that one! So awesome.
Great review, Kevin. I think you're spot on when you talk about why we loved early 3D shooters, and how these remakes just don't capture some of those elements. I think it's the same in RPGs, too. I spent tons of time in FF4 checking every wall or vase for hidden treats, but the kind of tricks that worked in the older graphic styles haven't really made it to modern games.
LOVED Hexen for this^.
Doesnt change the fact that at the time it was the greatest game I'd ever gotten to play.
And I have to agree, Fragging hitler at the end was the greatest part of the game. Was just.. epic.
I'd include Doom 3 in with this as well. Never even bothered finishing that game. I've never seen 87 shades of black require so much power to render o_O
since, synonyms: after, ago, following, from the time of, subsequent to, until now
Since can, but does not necessarily, include the reference. For instance, if I were to say "I have not driven a car since I was in that horrid accident" it's pretty clear that I was driving at the time of the horrid accident thus the reference is NOT included.
inb4 "what if you were the passenger, derp."
Somewhere around Halo 2 or Half Life 2 I finally got clear of all the rules—that's my parents for ya. Then again, I think it's good that they cared enough to know what I was playing growing up.
Jerks.
Sometimes I confuse Brian for Hitler with vulcan cannons for arms, though. I'm working on that.
Great piece, Kevin.
My German is a bit rusty but something about adapting otherwise something will happen?
The implication was that they were destroying Germany with acts of finance which, because they were allegedly conducted behind closed doors, were cowardly and beneath respect. Hitler vowed that their "actions" would not be tolerated, and failing to find more respectable work, they would be destroyed.
(1) "Das Judentum wird sich genauso einer soliden aufbauenden Tätigkeit anpassen müssen" - Lit: Judaism in the same way [to] a solid building activity adapt must / Trans: The Jews must in the same way adapt to respectable, constructive work
(2) "Oder es wird früher oder später einer Krise von unvorstellbarem Ausmaß erliegen." - LIT: Or [Judaism] will sooner or later [to] a crisis of unimaginable proportions succumb. / Trans: "Or they will, sooner or later, succumb to a crisis of unimaginable proportions."
Best move ever.