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Herp Derp Ping Pong

primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposalDetroit, MI Icrontian
edited Nov 2011 in Gaming
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  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    I'll be honest, the only exposure I've ever had to Fox's entertainews shows in the past is by way of Jon Stewart, and I've been assuming that he picks the absolute most dreadful moments to make fun of for his show.

    If they really treat every topic this way... I don't know. I feel sorry for all the people who subject themselves to this kind of programming.
  • ButtersButters CA Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Not every topic, just the topics that they don't agree with.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Oh FFS with the avatars! ;D
  • edited May 2011
    I thought you did good man, even though they just glossed over you and herp derped their own bullshit.

    +1 in my book.
  • NikNik
    edited May 2011
    I didn't really know who you were at the beginning and I assumed you were going to spout stuff that was completely wrong, but you said what I would have if I was in your place. I still feel like you shouldn't have let that insane bald man say what he did - you should have stepped in
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    I hope you become their regular gaming go-to guy! Thanks for not getting caught up in Asbury's grandstanding and sticking to the issue. I've got mad respect.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Nik, believe me, I tried. The host cut me off and the next thing I knew, he was giving the "last word" to Neal.
  • DogSoldierDogSoldier The heart of radical Amish country..
    edited May 2011
    I've been reading comments across various forums and the great majority of them, have been supportive.
  • edited May 2011
    You couldn't have done a better job Prime.

    Is Fox News going after gaming the last straw?
  • edited May 2011
    I hate to tell you this but you went on Fox news. You went to have a rational discussion about something they've only ever seen as a scapegoat and a medium for sociopaths. Why on earth would you engage them on such a topic? The people that watch Fox news are immune to your logic about the great things video games have to offer. Why would you offer yourself up on such a platter and not expect to be made a fool of. There are SO MANY EXAMPLES of them doing this exact same thing. Jesus man, we have the internet. We've use it to share stories exactly like this. It's typical you bloggers can't resist the urge to be on TV despite knowing your going to be made to look like a fool.
  • edited May 2011
    Hey, saw this on Reddit. You are on point and address all the questions truthfully and appropriately.

    Neal was being a sensationalist and the reporter was not hearing anything the two of you were saying.

    Good job. Upboat from the Reddit community.
  • edited May 2011
    I was sort of disappointed about how "quietly" you argued and thought that in the midst of all this shouting and explosion footage your arguments went under even for those who wanted to listen to you. Also I'd wished you'd immediately and forcefully clarified that Call of Duty and the footage they were showing is NOT the kind of game that gets these grants. Don't know if you could see and hear the intro though.
    The "I'm talking to entertainers here" part was good! :)
    I'm sure it wasn't an easy situation so don't take my "criticism" as too harsh. It just hurt a little to see idiotic bullshit like Neal's delivered with such force while actual arguments I agree with seemed to lack authority. Your stance of talking only to the gamers probably wasn't the most wise since they are not the ones to convince. The FOX audience is! And they're far less likely to take interest in a quiet and calm argument than a more empathic one.
  • edited May 2011
    Thanks for keeping your head, 'ol baldy obviously had a prepared speech, and you were sniped.
  • edited May 2011
    You were awesome, man. Totally cool in the face of the BlahBlahBlahSayWhatWeWantOrGetOff folks at Fox.

    In your place, I wouldn't have been able to hide incredulous laughter at the ping pong thing.
  • edited May 2011
    In the grand scheme of things. This is just another FN tidbit used illustrate wasteful spending, and Brian was fully aware of being the patsy. It had nothing to do with games or who will benefit from the 25 Billion dollars set aside to fund Grand Theft Black Ops, but the fact that Activision and Rockstar did not advertise with FN.

    Thats the reason why FN is crying about grant money for games, not that they disagree with the games, FN is just upset they received 0 dollars from the major publishers.
  • edited May 2011
    Good post, and relevant observation at the end. I am more in the F&F demographic but have no desire or philosophical leanings toward them. You are right - the millions that prefer to turn off their vitriol and disinformation need to realize there are other millions to take it hook line and sinker. Breaking through their BS is necessary and takes effort.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Great Job Brian!!
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    I disagree with the comments about Prime being too quiet, not establishing a position of authority, and not getting his point across. I think he did an excellent job. He knew what he was getting into, did his homework, and used the little time he was given to speak to clearly cement his position as an expert. I can't speak for Prime, but I would guess that he didn't go on Fox News to convince senior citizens that video games are a form of art. I think he was more mindful of the future and how this clip would be received by the gaming community when watched on the internet. By keeping this in circulation, it's not Prime who looks like the fool, it's Neal Asbury, the dimwitted host and the entire Fox News network. I would encourage everyone to post these articles and clips on your Facebook, Twitter, blogs, etc. Let's keep this in circulation so that Fox News starts to think these four minutes are the biggest mistake they ever made.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Also, I'm not sure that everyone here knows Prime on a personal level, but from what I know of him, his spiritual beliefs prevent him from stooping to the same level as Neal Asbury did. You showed Character, Prime. You got your digs in as well. I wish I could say that I would have handled it the same way.
  • colacola the dick man himself Right behind you Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Ahahahaha, this article is the icing on the cake :)

    If anyone wants to call Fox out and take a stand, I'll stand with you :D
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Dallas Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    <-- Been calling fox out for as long as I have known about them!

    Great job, again, Brian and hopefully some of the target demo took a second to listen to you instead of Asburtard.
  • KavKav
    edited May 2011
    If they think CoD is getting funded, you should have mentioned something about it being defense training since that's the one thing deemed untouchable by conservative republicans.
  • doozerdoozer Florida Member
    edited May 2011
    It's funny they're worried about a $10-200k grant when the government is bailing out banks to the tune of trillions.

    Good job clarifying who gets the grants and sticking to you guns in front of those puppets. Fucking major news networks are worthless.
  • edited May 2011
    I can honestly say this is my first trip to your site and I found it through Ctrl+Alt+Del. After watching your interview, I just had to let you know that you were brilliant. You showed the people of Fox News what debate should look like. Calm and logical without bickering or interruptions. I thought you were also a great representation of the Geek and Gamer communities using logic and a cool resolve to get your point across. I have a lot of respect for you and you have one more reader.
  • edited May 2011
    well done brian. knowing you were being used as a patsey and managing to keep the conversation civilized and calm was something lesser men cant achieve. well done for putting up a solid defense in the face of someone spouting mindless off topic sensationalist bullshit.

    you sir deserve a medal and icrontic has gained itself a follower.
  • edited May 2011
    The best part is, ping-pong players do get federal funding. They're called Olympic athletes.
  • edited May 2011
    I just want to congratulate you on at least attempting to fight the good fight. And I think you did a much better job then most people who go on fox.
  • edited May 2011
    You sir, have become one of my biggest heroes over the course of a single Fox interview. If only we could rally behind you. The fact that Fox set up such a one-sided battle-field and you still held out, calmly stated your points. Took on the man! A truly inspiring moment to see one of our own stand up to Fox. Great job staying on focus, I can't help but notice that you used the word indie though, saying independent and making the comparison to independent filmmakers would've been what I did, now of course, I know maybe you had that planned if they hadn't switched away to get on their anti-liberal agenda again. Seriously, thats all you see on that show. Nontheless, Cheers, and I hope that I reflect the views of many others when I say
    You're a Hero, enjoy the new follower(s) and keep on Bringing RAD Back!
  • edited May 2011
    Thanks for a valiant effort! Your interpretation of their tactics is spot on. You were only there to serve as face over which they could make their talking points.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Kav said:
    If they think CoD is getting funded, you should have mentioned something about it being defense training since that's the one thing deemed untouchable by conservative republicans.
    Someone pointed out to me earlier that America's Army, another game that is used to train the military, was funded by the DoD. Would have loved to see their pro-military, anti-spending heads explode if that bit of information had been revealed.
  • KoreishKoreish KCMO Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    I think FOX is just scared as are their demographic. The world is changing faster than, and I'm generalizing, any one over the age of 40 can handle.

    In 10 years time I guarantee we will have TV stations broad casting video games as if they were an actual sport. Korea already does it, and with the growing popularity of things like NASL, IGN Proleage, and MLG it might happen even faster than that.

    As for video games as art it could be argued that they are the pinnacle of the form. They have the visuals of a movie or a canvass, the story of a book, and they can take it even farther. We are allowed to interact with them, and they in turn can challenge us and make us think on a level that even a good book can't.
  • edited May 2011
    First off let me say I run an independent game company and it’s a nice thought to know the gov would shell out some cash to help, but I look at it this way. If you can’t create a game to get the ball rolling you don’t even have to start big you can do a two team iOS / android app in order to get some revenue flowing. If you show promise you could even get a VC involved so there is more than one way to go about this.
    Neal doesn’t have a f|_|cking clue what he is talking about in regards to video games. If the U.S. really wanted to “save” money why not start looking at the 3+ wars we are in, all our bases around the world, the puppet governments we give billions to, etc, etc, etc. Also Brian I would have asked Neal what games he plays or the last game he has played to put his retarded a$$ on the spot.
  • edited May 2011
    You might enjoy this... it's how I got to this site. http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/ : so the publicity thing worked out pretty well. Also, really respect you for dealing with that garbage.
  • QuadWhoreQuadWhore Toledo, Ohio, U.S. Member
    edited May 2011
    When I think of fox news I think of
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  • edited May 2011
    Oh jesus. Right as the other guy started talking about ping-pong I knew I was in for some grade a bullshit.

    People outside of video games always mistake simulators for what we know as video games. A ping-pong video game, assuming it has no story/purpose, would be a simple simulator. Compare something like that to a game such as Portal 2; which has a deep story, amazing game mechanics, great art direction, and great characterization. They are not even close to being the same. It's the same as comparing a textbook to a novel, ones art and ones not.

    I would have yelled at the other guy at the end for not only being off topic, but also failing to realize that computers are becoming more relevant to modern education. Electronic education tools are more practical than textbooks, and are more environmentally safe if you think about it. Not that Fox cares about any of that, I suppose...
  • edited May 2011
    you were awesome
  • GnomeQueenGnomeQueen Dizzy Pirate Hooker Mountain Dew Mouth Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    I think you were awesome.
  • edited May 2011
    You're definitely a better writer than a talking head Brian, but do a couple more of these and I'm sure you'll get the hang of talking points and acting like a belligerent idiot on TV.

    Kudos for stepping out of your comfort zone. And asking Reddit for advice, haha.
  • edited May 2011
    wow, props to you my man. I saw your earlier posts and didn't really know what to expect or if you were even really going on FOX. I hope you are given the opportunity to have a HUMANE discussion with somebody about this sometime because you really are right and should not be treated like that. they didn't really even get into the topic, more like skimmed the surface and tried to skew the situation.
    P.S. I love the facial hair :)
    P.P.S. Ping-Pong, WTF baldy?
    P.P.P.S. I ROFLMFAO'd when you shut down his COD reference
  • BandrikBandrik Elkhart, IN Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    I don't know why this caught my eye, or why this is funny to me, but I noticed that the anchor was holding an iPad for whatever reason. Totally unrelated to the point at hand, but... maybe someone will derive lulz from this.

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  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Toronto, ON Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Because they use tablets instead of a stack of papers.
  • edited May 2011
    Agreed, great job mate! Also love the title of the post I felt the ping pong example was probably the stupidest thing I have heard on television in a long time (and that's saying something). Way to keep your cool despite their obvious attempts to make your educated arguments not be heard.
  • edited May 2011
    Educated arguments can't be heard in this debate. The talk show host was a boisterous, angry man with a clear voice debating against a common educated guy who hadn't the time to prepare in-studio.
  • edited May 2011
    I'd rather have my Tax dollars go towards anything other than bailing out the banks. If the government wants to do enough to keep the banks a float thats cool, but they have handed way more than needed out to these banks who can't seem to figure out how the fuck to balance their books because they have made a bunch of stupid ass mistakes.

    If the government wants to give me Healthcare and extend money out to entertainment of all kinds via various federal grants I'm all for it.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Okay, this is bothering me - I'm having trouble finding an exact answer to this (set of) question(s), so please correct me:

    The TOTAL BUDGET for the NEA hasn't changed, right? That is, the feds aren't giving them MORE MONEY, right? Their draw on the fed budget is the same as normal, right?

    So we're not spending NEW money on video games (just already-allocated money), right? And, in fact, this money is likely getting cut in 2012, too, based on the new budget?

    I keep seeing people say something along the lines of 'we shouldn't be spending money on this, too,' as if we're planning to come up with NEW money it. But if we're only spending pre-allocated NEA cash AND if the NEA is getting cuts in 2012... do these people even have a goddamn leg to stand on?

    The argument can't be that transparent. I'm missing something, right?
  • DogSoldierDogSoldier The heart of radical Amish country..
    edited May 2011
    You're correct Myrmidon, the NEA's budget was not increased (Nor were taxes raised..) but actually slashed 13%. Instead of the 168 million they had for 2011, they only have 146 million for 2012.

    The argument works for conservatives because they only see and hear what they WANT to see and hear. The capacity for denial within the minds of these folks is really quite staggering.

    And from what I understand, Ping Pong is considered an Olympic sport, and eligible for funding from private sources and media companies, NOT from the US government. Because the government does not fund Olympic athletes.
  • edited May 2011
    Ambrozy: you're a badass. Congratulations for standing up to idiots, keeping your cool, and writing about it eloquently. The thinking people need to be aware of what happens on the powerful, evil media machine that is Fox News so they can continue to fight it effectively and at the source.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited May 2011
    Also, the hell with your avatar, dog, I totally thought Brian responded to me. :P
  • edited May 2011
    "It calmed me immensely, because I knew I had truth on my side."

    He's like f_ckin' Martin Luther King, about video games! "We shall overcome, we shall overcome, we shall overcome, some day!"
  • edited May 2011
    I'm conservative, and these guys aren't typical conservative "morons", they're just plain MORONS. I'm conservative, I thought this was the WORST interview ever, and I agreed with Brian Ambrose with it. There was especially no reason for the fishface on the other side of the mic to lose his cool like that. I thought he was going to have a heart attack, the guy was spazzing out so much.


    I really do, however, disagree with people calling conservatives idiots because of this interview; there are stupid people on both sides of the fence. I prefer not to call a side stupid, but to call the individuals stupid; Brian was cool, baldy was an idiot. Nice job, actually! I too would have laughed at the mention of ping-pong.
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