^^ditto Shorty^^ I have a batch for my Cisco VPN that starts the service, then the vpn.exe.

Let me add one more geek rant to my three above:

4. Vista's backup assumes you're dumb as a rock. So instead of choosing entire folders and ignoring others, you just pick categores of files...such as E-mail with a pretty blue check beside it. I don't see the point in backing up if I don't have a darn good idea exactly what is getting backed up (i.e., there might be several .pst's on this or any other computer I'm on...is it taking all of them? Just some of them?). ntbackup doesn't work any more. I see Cobian is Vista-able. Might have to make that change.