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Dungeon Keeper multiplayer

Winfrey shows us how to get Dungeon Keeper multiplayer running on Vista and XP using DOSBOX.

In our boredom, we began thinking of games we'd always wanted to play in a multiplayer setting but, for whatever reason, never had the chance. We settled on Dungeon Keeper, a personal favorite of all involved.
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As a note, following all the steps except for the ones related to CD images and drives will teach you how to run any DOS app in DOSBox. The process is the same for other games/progs.
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Hawk
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Nice write up Winfrey.
DOSBOX is pretty cool.
I've been using it for about a yr now and it makes it pretty easy to play the old games.
It ran DIG perfectly.
With just a quick scan of features and game play.
Dungeon Keeper seems a little like Travian, only you get to see the action.
Is the game down loadable anywhere?
Or do we still have to buy it?
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kaishakunin
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Thanks Hawk!

Dungeon Keeper is not abandonware so you will have to purchase it. You can find it at a lot of places, especially online game stores. It was a unique game of its time because you are playing as the "bad guys" i.e. demons and imps and are trying to create a dungeon to defeat Heroes and other dungeon keepers.

the Home of the Underdogs is probably has one of the largest selections of games that are now offered as abandonware and can be downloaded for free. Most of them are old 16-bit games that you can get to work on DOSBox.
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Orior
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sup'

there is no other way to make DK run on LAN? i mean, like hamachi or something?
the DOSbox guide was amazing but is too boring write all that stuff everytime to play...


greetings
Winfrey
kaishakunin
Winfrey
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You don't have to rewrite that stuff everytime if you use D.O.G. as a frontend to run Dungeon Keeper. Besides, I don't think you can do LAN without using some kind of frontend to utilize IPX while running dosbox. I haven't tried hamatchi, but I don't see why it won't work as long as you use the correct IPs.
Orior
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Orior
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nice one man, by the way, i told a friend to do this so we can play, but when he is starting DK, it crashes over and over again in the introduction movie or after cd check, what could that be?
Winfrey
kaishakunin
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nice one man, by the way, i told a friend to do this so we can play, but when he is starting DK, it crashes over and over again in the introduction movie or after cd check, what could that be?
What OS do you have?
Orior
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Orior
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XP like him, but i run it exelent
Winfrey
kaishakunin
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Is it crashing to windows or is it just showing the loading screen and stops working? Make sure you haven't messed with video settings in D.O.G. or that the ISO is still mounted in daemon tools or whatever virtual drive software you use.
Orior
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Orior
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it stops working, the dosbox screen just stops, and no, he dont mess up with the video settings on dog, yes, the image is mounted on daemon.
in the instalation happened when he was in the sound selector or just for much time spent in the instalation, so i dont know what could that be........
Winfrey
kaishakunin
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in the instalation happened when he was in the sound selector or just for much time spent in the instalation, so i dont know what could that be........
What?!
Orior
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in the setup, after completes, you have to select your sound card compatible with ur pc, after that it stops, i attached a picture showing the error, so in the game just happen the same thing
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Winfrey
kaishakunin
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I would try reinstalling the game to see if you get the same error during setup. You are installing through dosbox correct?
Orior
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Orior
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yes, i'll try to reinstall, but if i get the same error, what could i do??
Winfrey
kaishakunin
Winfrey
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Try installing into just Windows XP to see if there is a problem with the disc or not.
Taso
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I have been trying to make dungeon keeper work over two vista 32 bit computers but i can't seem to make the match appear on the list of ipx matches. I have followed all of the instructions except for the make one computer host and the a client becuase i failed to see the option in dog, could u please tell me how to do this in more depth
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kaishakunin
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You should see an option in D.O.G. in the Data Communications tab for IPX. And in that part you should see options for being either a client or host machine. If you don't you may have had a problem installing the IPX protocol onto your machine.

Make sure you followed the IPX installation steps in the guide, let me know if that doesn't work.
Taso
Guest
Instead of doing the automatic install i did the manual to see if that made a difference. I managed to get the ipx protocol to appear in the options tab of my network connection but still there is no option in D.O.G. to make me either a host or a client, all i can see is the enable ipx check box, the hint and which port ipx uses.
Taso
Guest
After a bit of research I just ended up using dos box to create the ipx tunneling service by typing ipx=true on both machines then the server computer typing ipxnet startserver and the other client comps typing ipxnet connect then my ip address. This way seemed to work and i was able to start a multiplayer match over hamatachi
belladonna
Guest
thank you! his is the best guide/solution for solving that lame ipx problem i ever read!
tiny problem, though: i tried it several times (up-to-date PCs, ethernet and/or lan, xp and/or vista, with/without patches) and it LAGS after some playing. painstakingly. Does anybody have an idea why this could be happening? please? it would be so very sweet to be able to multiplay DK!
mike
Guest
Whomever is hosting should pick “Server” and enter their IP address. For everyone else at the party, select “Client” and enter the host’s IP into the given field.

where is this part i cant find it anywhere and i want to play dungeon keeper really bad. please help
Winfrey
kaishakunin
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You can't find it in D.O.G.? Or in my guide? Make sure you have the IPX protocol installed on your machine

Now go to the “Data Communications” category. Select “Enable IPX” and determine which one of your buddies is going to be the host. Whomever is hosting should pick “Server” and enter their IP address. For everyone else at the party, select “Client” and enter the host’s IP into the given field.
leishi85
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sweet, there is a os x version of dosbox, now i can play dungeon keeper even in os x.
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mike
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is it in the data communications tab because all that is in there is a checkbox to enable the ipx protocol. could the version i have be different then yours? i follow your links and it gives me version 1.53. can i run the original dungeon keeper or do i need to use gold? thankyou
Winfrey
kaishakunin
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Dungeon Keeper Gold should work fine. Here is a pic of how my Data Communications tab looks in D.O.G.

I notice that my version is not 1.53 but 1.54. I have been looking for 1.54. but have not been able to find a link. You can try Taso's fix through dosbox though. I will continue to search for a patch updated install. But it looks like D.O.G. creator has stopped hosting file versions beyond 1.53

After a bit of research I just ended up using dos box to create the ipx tunneling service by typing ipx=true on both machines then the server computer typing ipxnet startserver and the other client comps typing ipxnet connect then my ip address. This way seemed to work and i was able to start a multiplayer match over hamatachi
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georgeo
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Hi guys i just install dungeon keeper (gold) on my pc (Vista 32) and it doesnt work so i managed to install dk through the DOSbox.Everything works fine except that when i start new game and enter the first lvl it crush in about 2 seconds and i dont know why.i tried to figure out through the google and i didnt find any result on this problem.Does anybody know where is the problem ?

..Thanks (btw sorry for my english)
floppybootstomp
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How odd, I just picked up Dungeon Keeper 2 for a fiver after searching for a few years for it.

It's been modified to run in Vista (it doesn't) but it does run nicely in XP. And yes, I've tried all the settings, it still won't work in Vista (Home Premium).

After all these years I've forgotten what you supposed to do, I just got soundly thrashed by some lord or other in level 4. Dig, get gold, cast spells, I guess.

This DOS_Box - could I run Little Big Adventure 2 in it? LBA2 was made for Win 95 and I used to love that game but never did finish it.
Emsarrev
Guest
Hey Winfrey, my friend and me can connect and stuff using the "fix" provided by Taso, but when we have chosen a level and it's about to start the secondary DOSBox windows goes crazy with "Illegal Read : followed by alot of numbers or Illegal Write: followed by alot of numbers. This happens when it displays the CD read screen. We have both tried hosting but that didn't fix our issue. Any clue what's going on? Bad .ISO file?
Winfrey
kaishakunin
Winfrey
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Does it work fine when you do not play networked? Have you or your friend messed with any other settings in D.O.G.?
Joel
Guest
Cheers for the tips, I used them to get Doom and Star Control 3 working last Christmas. Strangely Doom caused the serving machine to slow down significantly despite the machines having identical specifications (same laptop make and model except the server had 1gb more ram). Have you experienced this?
Emsarrev
Guest
It does work when we play not networked, however it's still a bit laggy even in non-full screen mode :/
Winfrey
kaishakunin
Winfrey
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I am not sure why you would get an "Illegal read" error. The ISO could be bad, but since you can play it single player that kind of rules it out. You could try to reinstall to see if that makes a difference.

Joel: I have not experienced a noticeable slowdown when running Dungeon Keeper through dosbox, nor any other game. It could be you are experiencing lag due to dosbox not getting enough cpu cycles or you have a high frameskip which may be more noticeable in an fps. Try hitting ctrl+f12 to increase your cycles or use a frontend like D.O.G. to manage this for you. If that doesn't work then maybe you should free up system resources by closing programs you may have running in the background.
Onsympatico
Guest
Dudes, you can play dungeon keeper without cd! Just copy the directories DATA, LDATA, LEVELS and SOUND from the cd and change the keeper.cfg file to read INSTALL_PATH=C:\KEEPER\ (or wherever you installed dk).

That D.O.G. thing is also not required. Go in the config file of dosbox and change "IPX=false" in "IPX=true". The host should type "ipxnet startserver" and the clients "ipxnet connect ***.***.***.***" where the * is the IP of the host (computername works to)

DOS DUNGEON KEEPER MP ROCKS!!!!
Onsympatico
Guest
Oh, for a higher resolution in DOS DK pres alt+r ingame. And set your keys to wasd instead of the arrow keys for some deathmatch goodness .
gumibear
Guest
Well i tried this, never got an option to be a host or client so I gave up after 4 hrs of work, then i wiki'ed IPX, just do whats on this link
(http://www.enigmasoftwaredevelopments.com/ipx.html)

dont have to waste time with dosbox, just install the game and set it to run in windows 98/ME compatibility or 256bit color if needed, takes about 1 minute to set up I regret ever reading ur tread, nice effort though the game is worth it. just thought id save others thoughts of suicide.
JOE
Guest
Hey quike question. how do you speed the game up, it lags when we play, i could not get DOg to work on vista. it just crashes all the time i try to download it. so i did that ipxnet thing. works awesome just lags after a while.
Shadow_Prince
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Does anyone even play it anymore?

I suppose it would have to be planned dates now as it not as popular.
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