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Thrax
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New antivirus winner crowned

New antivirus winner crowned
Cliff_Forster
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I personally use AVG as a free anti virus because the false alarms in Avira drive me nuts.
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Even if AVG's miss rate is 3x that of AVIRA?
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lordbean
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hmm... Seems like it's time to dump AVG and go with either Avira or Avast.
Cliff_Forster
Keepin it real
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852 Posts
It has never failed me, but I am a good user, I don't wander into the abyss of the internet too often.
Snarkasm
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Avast was mistaking Folding@Home SMP for a virus the week before I parted and sold the computer... thought that was kind of funny.
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Ms. D
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I had an issue with my AVG where it refused to auto update for forever, and the problem came back after a week even when I reinstalled it and did troubleshooting and so on- and I ended up getting a ton of viruses as a result (Partially my fault, I didn't notice when it wasn't updating). I changed to Avira, and I'm happy and virus free.
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mirage
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I wonder how Microsoft Security Essentials which is released today would rank in that list. Any clues?
Thrax
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No idea. If it's anything like OneCare, then not very well. We'll probably have to wait until December to know.
Cyclonite
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I'm interested to know the answer to that as well.

By the way, I use Avast and recommend it to all my clients. I'll have to check out Avira some time.
mirage
Veteran Icrontian
mirage
1,026 Posts
I switched two notebook computers from AVG to MSSE today (one XP, one W7) to try. My initial impression is positive compared to AVG regarding the resource use (CPU+MEM) and user interface. Time will tell about the security. I will try Avira on another computer in parallel.
Cliff_Forster
Keepin it real
Cliff_Forster
852 Posts
I went a while without running an Anti Virus at all, mostly because of the performance hit, but for the last couple years, with multi core processing and 4GB of ram or more, not to mention all the great free options, its a no brainier to keep some real time protection.

I don't knock Avira, its a great tool and its free, I just found that it would raise allot of unnecessary flags. AVG has served me very nicely.
ardichoke
King Banana Spanner
ardichoke
1,090 Posts
I've been using Avira ever since the great motherboard death of this summer and the subsequent Windows 7 install. While I don't have any problem with it's resource usage or anything, the nag windows it pops up to try and get you to buy the full version instead of the free version annoy the piss out of me. To the point where I'm about ready to dump it and go back to Avast! or AVG.
Zuntar
Modder extraordinaire
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I switched to Avast about 10 months ago. I am very happy with it! I even purchased the WHS version which then integrates all the desktop versions and keeps track of everything. I can even scan remotely if needed.
Thrax
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I've been using Avira ever since the great motherboard death of this summer and the subsequent Windows 7 install. While I don't have any problem with it's resource usage or anything, the nag windows it pops up to try and get you to buy the full version instead of the free version annoy the piss out of me. To the point where I'm about ready to dump it and go back to Avast! or AVG.
http://bit.ly/10yP7q
ardichoke
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So... easy.... Why did I never think to google this? I'm disappointed in myself.
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Gnome Queen
Ms. D
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Oh, I also need to disable that. Thanks, Rob!
Tim
Pessimistic Optimist
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1,221 Posts
I've been using AVG free for years and it has always worked well for me.
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Just like ie6.
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Call me crazy but my pc goes commando.
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Just like ie6.
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Kwitko
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I prefer Dr. Solomon's AntiVirus Toolkit.
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John
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You need to resize your images better.
_k_
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^oh snap!
Kwitko
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You need to resize your images better.
What's wrong with them? They look perfectly fine to me.
Thrax
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The images are taken directly from the AV-Comparatives PDF with no resizing. If there are artifacts, it's because the source document has them.
Annes
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I look forward to this little piece every year, Thrax. Thanks!
kryyst
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I've been using the beta of MS's Security Essentials since it came out in my win7 beta and I've been very happy with it. I have tested it a couple times with sending in virus signatures in various ways and it's caught them all. I'm not actually worried about getting a virus myself because, well I'm not dumb. So it's more about preventing oops' if my wife is using the computer of if I'm needing to trouble shoot someone elses harddrive etc...

So for those reasons I want an anti-virus software that doesn't hit the system resources badly and MS really is pretty light weight in that dept. It is far less of a hog compared to AVG and I've never personally liked Avast so I can't directly compare it.

Normally if I was just needing a scan on demand anti-virus only I use clamwin. However because I do want some real-time scanning for oops protection I will be using Microsoft Security Essentials from now on. I'm quiet happy with it's performance and feel comfortable with it's security.

Plus the dinks at Symantec have said it's horrible, useless and generally prone to horrible failure and no one should ever use it. Given their track record that's an awesome recommendation in my books. The whole enemy of my enemy thingy.
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l3it3r
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I too, use Security Essentials primarily because of its lightweight background processes.
lunchb0x
lol unmanaged
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But I think the real question is will these antiviruses protect my chicken from Dokken, like Norton will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXeE1EXJPM
Thrax
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Bwahahahah, what in the fuck.
Butters
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kryyst, I haven't tried MSSE, is it anything like Microsoft's forefront security?
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Cliff_Forster
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A Dokken reference?? Really?? Seriously, I'm over 30 so I remember Dokken, but who here even has a clue who the hell they are?

Maybe they should hire Stryper for their next commercial?
lunchb0x
lol unmanaged
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They did another commercial with MMA fighter Kimbo Slice and a Caterpillar. Its just as weird
Thrax
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A Dokken reference?? Really?? Seriously, I'm over 30 so I remember Dokken, but who here even has a clue who the hell they are?

Maybe they should hire Stryper for their next commercial?
Who has two thumbs and owns every Dokken song ever made?

* Thrax thumbs at himself.


THIS GUY.
Lincoln
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Seriously, I'm over 30 so I remember Dokken, but who here even has a clue who the hell they are?
Who do you think Norton's target audience is, exactly?
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kryyst
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kryyst, I haven't tried MSSE, is it anything like Microsoft's forefront security?
They use the same core engine but Forefront has more features that tie in with enterprise enviro, plus I've got conflicting results that MSSE won't run on server OS versions, XP, Vista and 7 only. I haven't tested it on win2k3 server or win2008 server yet myself, though I'm tempted to (MS's official word is if you run server you have to run Forefront, some articles I've read are to the contrary).



As you can see by the chart the core anti-virus features are essentially the same and if you trust forefront then there's no reason to not trust MSSE. What it comes down to is manageability in the enterprise enviro.

You'll note that in this feature list is says MSSE runs on WS 2008....so again, mixed signals. If your questions for home or small office use and don't need the centralized management then I currently can't see any reason why you couldn't run MSSE. Reading through the licensing there is nothing that says you can't use it for free in the business world, unlike free editions of AVG or AVAST that say free for personal use only.
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Deny Dokken your Chicken.

What the .....



I have to admit, that's an awesome ad campaign
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What happens when you DENY Dokken your Chicken?

l3it3r
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HAHAHA... WTF, Dokken is still around?!
mas0n
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I dropkicked AVG instead of updating to v8.0 and have been using Avira since. Faster scans, less bloat and better protection; what's not to like?
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HAHAHAHA holy hell those commercials are golden. Chicken with a switchblade? Instant classic.
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CB
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I use Avast and recommend it to all my clients. I'll have to check out Avira some time.
ditto
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Those commercials are gold!

Gonna try me some Avira.
AlexDeGruven
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AlexDeGruven
253 Posts
Been checking out MSSE for the last couple of days. So far, so good. But then, like others have stated, I'm not retarded so it's difficult to say how well it does for detection and prevention.

I should install this on my FIL's computer when I rebuild it and see how it does with him.
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I've been using Avira for a couple of years now and always found it great. However this last week or two I have found that it has not been updating. Their updates have always been hit and miss for connectivity but I what can I expect for free? For some reason it takes over an hour to update at the moment, with terrible download speeds, about 0.3Kb/s.

Everyone else that I know using Avira is suffering from the same problem. I have been doing manual updates from Avira's site, but I'm giving it another week and then finding a new antivirus. It's all very well having the best antivirus but if it's constantly out-of-date then what's the point???

~Cyrix
drasnor
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All of my machines are going to Microsoft Security Essentials; it's not really free since I'm paying for it with Windows so there's someone to yell at if it isn't working. And it should never not work since it's provided by the same guys that make the OS so presumably they'll know ahead of time when changes to the OS affect their scan engine.

Miss rates below 10% are perfectly acceptable as long as I don't get false positives at all. Honestly, I only need antivirus to make the Security Center shut up. NAT and safe browsing habits go a long way and it's not like antivirus can help if another exploit like DCOM RPC or Server service comes along.

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