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Matt
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Matt
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12 Jun 2003, 2:29am

5200ultra not overclocking

I got a 5200ultra and when I try to overclock it in riva tuner im not able to move the sliders. Has this happend to any one and how can i fix this?

never mind I fixed it I downloaded some update's and it worked.
is it normal to have the core run at 55C.

thats 55C idle iv seen it go up to 80+C.




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CCW
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12 Jun 2003, 1:03pm
Thats high, the FX core does create a lot of heat, id replace the cooling if i were you or get some more air flowing ove rit

Craig
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Matt
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Matt
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12 Jun 2003, 1:19pm
i just sent it back. it was like a heat wave around my computer.
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12 Jun 2003, 1:34pm
Cartman Says: Dont post multiple times, edit your original post biatch.



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Matt
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12 Jun 2003, 1:37pm
sorry
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CCW
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CCW
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12 Jun 2003, 2:46pm
Originally posted by matt
i just sent it back. it was like a heat wave around my computer.
What you gonna replace it with?

Craig
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Enisada
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12 Jun 2003, 3:16pm
Yet another reason to buy ATI instead of Nvidia....
Muhahahaha...
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Matt
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Matt
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12 Jun 2003, 3:56pm
Originally posted by Enisada
Yet another reason to buy ATI instead of Nvidia....
Muhahahaha...
ATI all the way Ill get some ati card like a 9000pro and vmod it.
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Enisada
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12 Jun 2003, 4:33pm
Let me know how that goes I got a 9000Pro in my other system. It is getting an upgrade here soon to a 9600Pro though. Always looking to get a few extra Mhz out of it....
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stoopid
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stoopid
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12 Jun 2003, 4:33pm
Originally posted by matt

ATI all the way Ill get some ati card like a 9000pro and vmod it.
Though the performance of my 9700 AIW is great, I've had a few driver quirks (mouse missing in certain apps, stuttering 2D, random crashes when watch cable TV) that I rarely experienced with nvidia cards... ATI still has a ways to go in developing 100% functional drivers... but I'll take the occassional bug over less performance anyday.
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Enisada
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12 Jun 2003, 4:48pm
Hey stoopid...lol. What drivers are you using for your card??
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stoopid
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12 Jun 2003, 7:25pm
Originally posted by Enisada
Hey stoopid...lol. What drivers are you using for your card??
Whatever ones are listed for the 9700 AIW on ati's site (you have to download a total of 3 components and follow specific instructions to install them properly).

I picked the username for the times people say "I agree with stoopid"
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Enisada
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12 Jun 2003, 8:32pm
Very good, I like the name. As long as you are sure that they are the new 3.4's then you should be good. It may sound like a stupid (no pun intended) question but do you have any other video drivers installed other than the CATs??? Sometime you never know...
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Matt
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Matt
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12 Jun 2003, 11:09pm
$359 RADEON 9800 Pro 128MB
$265 - RADEON 9700 Pro
$204 - RADEON 9700 128MB
$180 RADEON 9600 Pro Ultra
$167 - RADEON 9600 Pro 128MB
$138 RADEON 9500 128MB
$126 - RADEON 9500 64MB
$77 - RADEON 9200 128MB
$66 RADEON 9200 64MB
$75 RADEON 9100 128MB
$62 - RADEON 9100 64MB
$78 - RADEON 9000 Pro 128MB
$59 - RADEON 9000 Pro 64MB
$56 - RADEON 9000

If I get the money I might get the 9600, iv seen some good overclocks with it.
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Enisada
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12 Jun 2003, 11:49pm
What is the 9600Pro Ultra?? Is it a higher clocked card??
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Matt
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Matt
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13 Jun 2003, 12:09am
Originally posted by Enisada
What is the 9600Pro Ultra?? Is it a higher clocked card??
most likely.
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Enisada
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13 Jun 2003, 12:33am
This by a third party manufacturer or from ATI themselves??
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Matt
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13 Jun 2003, 12:53am
dont know i just got a price list from pricewatch.com
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Enisada
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13 Jun 2003, 1:02am
I just looked at ATI's site and it didn't say anything about a 9600Pro Ultra so i'm just thinking it just be a third party card that is clocked a bit higher than the standard Pro.
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Enisada
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13 Jun 2003, 2:22am
I think I may be looking at putting the 9600Pro into my system for a test around the block it should be here tomorrow. Thanks matt for the link.
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Enisada
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13 Jun 2003, 2:37am
It still didn't prove to me that there was a Radeon 9600Pro Ultra...
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Matt
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Matt
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13 Jun 2003, 3:19am
when you get the 9600 pro tell me what you max overclock is.
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Enisada
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13 Jun 2003, 4:28am
I will do that but I here that overall the 9500Pro is a better card. And with your core so high you don't even have to worry. None the less I will let you know how it goes...
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Matt
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Matt
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13 Jun 2003, 4:42am
well at stock speeds the 9500pro is a better card but when your card is overclocked it will be equal are a little better. not to many people get a good 9500 what will do 400core

it would be cool to say ya my ATI video card its at 550/360
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Enisada
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13 Jun 2003, 5:02am
I suppose but your 9500Pro will still beat it in most benches...
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CCW
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CCW
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13 Jun 2003, 7:06am
Originally posted by matt

most likely.
It is actually a cut down core whereas 9500 wasnt cut down. The 9500 should be better.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=14267


Craig
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Enverex
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13 Jun 2003, 9:27am
ATi really need to re-do their naming scheme, they are confusing the crap out of most people, and if it continues people may even start complaining or buying competitors products just because they cant work out what the hell to expect from and ATi card. Though the same is true with nVidia, but at least you know anything with MX on the end is crap.

Bring back the old Voodoo naming scheme I say, that was strightforward

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CCW
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13 Jun 2003, 10:08am
Voodoo, good naming scheme, shame about the card(s)
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13 Jun 2003, 10:34am
Hey, there is nothing wrong with the Voodoo cards (other than the V3's didnt do 32bit and the V5's needed a PC the length of a strech limo...) as I said, NOTHING wrong with the Voodoo cards. Still got a V3 chugging away downstairs, going to put it in my Amiga when the other PC gets upgraded.

NS
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CCW
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13 Jun 2003, 11:04am
LOL, I have the first ever proper 3D Card still.....a Voodoo 1 4MB, I used to love Voodoo cards

Craig
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Enverex
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13 Jun 2003, 11:43am
How exactly did you use Voodoo 1 and 2 cards? Because I know they didnt do 2D, so you had to use another card with them........ but how?

NS
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stoopid
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stoopid
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13 Jun 2003, 1:38pm
Originally posted by Enisada
As long as you are sure that they are the new 3.4's then you should be good. It may sound like a stupid (no pun intended) question but do you have any other video drivers installed other than the CATs??? Sometime you never know...
I could check when I get home, but I doubt they are... it seems that the AIW drivers are updated less frequently due to its varying functions and over-all crankiness. I tried applying the latest 3d drivers, but they don't play well and I lose any extra functionality (any of the TV stuff) unless I go back and do a fresh install of all 3 sets of drivers from the site. PITA...
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Matt
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Matt
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13 Jun 2003, 4:24pm
Originally posted by NightShade737
How exactly did you use Voodoo 1 and 2 cards? Because I know they didnt do 2D, so you had to use another card with them........ but how?

NS
theres like an ATA cable coming from the voodoo that plugs in to the other video card.
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CCW
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13 Jun 2003, 5:15pm
Originally posted by NightShade737
How exactly did you use Voodoo 1 and 2 cards? Because I know they didnt do 2D, so you had to use another card with them........ but how?

NS
15 pin male to 15 pin female cable from 2d to 3d and voila! sorted

Craig
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Matt
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Matt
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14 Jun 2003, 5:56am
good news i just got the Verto geforce fx 5200 ultra and its working a lot better than the BFG 5200 ultra. when i took off the heat sink the heat sink was not tuching the core of the video card. the only problem i had is that the CD that comes with the video card didnt have XP drivers on it. when i stated to overclock i was able to get 333/680 but this is with the core not tuching the heat sink im not going to fix it because im going to return it for a 9600pro in 2 days.
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XZGohan
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14 Jun 2003, 6:20am
Originally posted by matt

theres like an ATA cable coming from the voodoo that plugs in to the other video card.
That slot you saw on my Voodoo was for linking two Voodoo's together, to go to a 2d card there is a second monitor port (female) that goes to the male port of the 2d card.
My setup was...
16mb Voodoo 1 <-flat cable-> 16mb Voodoo 1 <-monitor cable-> Diamond Viper V770 <-monitor cable->Monitor.
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CCW
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14 Jun 2003, 8:30am
the ATA cable is a SLI cable, to double the power but having two cards.

Craig
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XZGohan
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15 Jun 2003, 3:26am
Originally posted by CCW
the ATA cable is a SLI cable, to double the power but having two cards.

Craig
Thats what it was, doh
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PyobliE
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15 Jun 2003, 4:57am
Originally posted by CCW
the ATA cable is a SLI cable, to double the power but having two cards.

Craig
Argh, that phrase is givin me shivers....

I used to have an ATi rage pro as my AGP card, and a Voodoo2 as my 3D card. I then read up on the whole SLI thing, and wanted to do it. I bought another V2, to get SLI'ing, but no joy - the 2nd V2 was made by a diff company, so they werent compatable. Eventually, I found another V2 to match one of the others, but had then lost the SLI cable!, so couldnt do it, and no one would sell me one!!

Ended up with 3 V2's, and no SLIing, not a happy bunny. SLI'd Voodoo2's were the dogs bits then too, u could even do 1024*768 with them in some games, as opposed to the default V2 800*600.....

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danball1976
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15 Jun 2003, 5:15am
I would have kept the 5200, and not overclocked it
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Matt
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15 Jun 2003, 5:47am
Originally posted by danball1976
I would have kept the 5200, and not overclocked it
I would of kept it but overclocking is my life even xzgohan knows that.
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danball1976
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15 Jun 2003, 5:58am
Why do you need to overclock at video card anyway. The CPU's where its at.
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Matt
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15 Jun 2003, 6:01am
FPS is my life. I overclock everything I get just for the hell of it.
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danball1976
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15 Jun 2003, 6:06am
I might like high FPS, but I don't want to overclock to get it though
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CCW
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15 Jun 2003, 8:49am
5200s suck, 250 core (ish) and 200 mem (400), why not overclock the piece of junk?

for 3D, the card is where its at (everything else needs to be balanced of course)

Craig
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Matt
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15 Jun 2003, 7:29pm
it was a 5200 ultra 325 core 650 mem and yes they suck.
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CCW
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15 Jun 2003, 8:05pm
Your sig says you got a 9500 anyway so why bother with these FX cards?
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Matt
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16 Jun 2003, 4:21am
because i have 3 computers and thats just the best one.
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