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...runs its first 10k!
I'm participating in the Vancouver Sun Run this year as an actual runner - been training my butt off for fourteen weeks, from couch to 10k, and I'm finally ready. The race is this Sunday, April 23rd. Doing a last minute round of fundraising; hopefully some of you can toss in a few bucks.
Remember, America bux are worth 1.4x more in Canada bux so your donation packs more punch than it feels to your wallet!
I'm supporting Ronald McDonald House, a charity which provides a place to stay for families of children sent to hospitals far from home. This personally touched my family last year when my cousin's baby was born with a heart defect requiring surgery out here in Vancouver, they had to come all the way from Winnipeg and spent the first few weeks of his life here. All went well, baby is happy and healthy and a year old now :-)
The other one is BC Cancer Care, pretty sure Cancer has effected all of us in some way; I have family battling it right now, friends with parents who are as well.
Any support is appreciated! Thanks everyone 
http://rmhb.convio.net/site/TR/Events/General?px=1021765&pg=personal&fr_id=1141
http://donate.bccancerfoundation.com/site/TR/Events/ResponsiveTR?px=1927319&pg=personal&fr_id=3060

Re: How does engineering?
@drasnor said:
@doabarrellroll said:
As someone who works in the consumer electronics business, this part here "Execute the plan." is the hard part.There is a tried and true formula here and like math, you just have to follow it and not skip any steps.
i have to admit, I didn't want to go into much detail on execution because it's all hard work and no fun. Anyone that makes it that far should already know what they're signing up for.
I want to take a moment to shout out to manufacturing engineers everywhere. Thank you taking the trash the design engineers come up with and making it gold. You are truly the unsung heroes of any effort.
drasnor
Re: How does engineering?
Here is an engineering design process. There are many though most are very similar and this one works well for me.
- Problem identification and concept of operations
This is the hardest part. What is the actual problem? Is the problem that you can't buy tasty chicken nuggets from a vending machine or that you can't get chicken nugget instant whim-to-gratification? How you frame the problem affects everything that happens afterward. You can always come back to this step if it turns out your conops doesn't mesh with reality but you'll be re-doing all the subsequent work so don't take that lightly. Things don't need to be super formal yet because you don't yet know what the constraints are.
- Requirements capture
Do your homework. Your problem statement and preliminary concept of operations should inform you of what unknowns are important to know. Find out what those things are and write them down. These range the full gamut including but not limited to physical, functional, operational, electrical, and regulatory constraints. The last one is usually the hardest to identify. During this part, your investigation will usually find if someone else has made the same thing already because it will have had the same requirements and will appear in all of your searches.
- Requirements review
Find someone or several someones that know what they're doing (relevant expertise) and pay them to review your requirements critically. The hardest requirements to meet are the ones you never knew you had. You don't necessarily need to pay with money, this can be done with goods or services in kind or a stake in the project. Paying them establishes a couple of things:
- They're more likely to take you seriously and give you good feedback.
- You can establish a good-faith legally-binding contract which prevents them from stealing your idea.
Consulting contracts like this don't need to be super formal to be enforceable. The most important thing here is that you can't independently review your own requirements.
- Preliminary Design
Develop one or more solutions which meet your requirements. During requirements capture, you made a best effort at identifying the design constraints and probably came up with a few ideas for solutions that meet some of your favorite requirements (makes tasty chicken nuggets). These are good starting points but don't be afraid to abandon approaches if it starts looking like they're irreconcilable with some of your requirements. Consider getting help if you don't feel competent to assess design suitability for some of the requirements you identified. You're done with this step when you have a solution which looks like it's going to meet the requirements and you've done some work to resolve the aspects of the solution that look like they're going to be significant challenges later on (development risks). You should at this point know pretty much what the thing is supposed to look like, what it's going to be made of, how much electricity it uses, what the maintenance needs are going to be, how it's going to meet the relevant legal ordinances. You should make a proof-of-concept demonstrator which does most of what needs to be done under ideal conditions.
- Preliminary Design Review
Get more people that know what they're doing and walk them through your design in a formal setting touching on everything that's been done to date. You want to cover how you got to this point, what design ideas you tried out that didn't pan out and why the one you've selected is the best. Your idea is pretty stealable at this point so these folks should definitely either work for your company or be under contract. This is also a good time to get a business plan, incorporate, and get some other peoples' money.
- Detailed Design
You're implementing the preliminary design and making the actual product that you intend to sell. This is the part where you do all the things that most people think of as actual engineering: selecting wire sizes, number of bolts, material thicknesses, etc. You're done here when you've made and tested prototypes that work under extremes of the required operating environments and you have a manufacturing and logistics plan for fulfilling the projected demand.
- Critical Design Review
Get a lot of people that know what they're doing and walk them through everything done to date. Your design isn't very stealable at this point because you're too close to market; all of your development risks are retired at this point. Still a good idea to get those nondisclosure agreements signed though. Your reviewers should not find any show-stoppers because you found them all earlier. They'll tell you the kinds of things you can't know from your limited development like how other products that made similar design choices fared in long-term operation.
- Produce
Execute the plan.
- Profit
Tasty chicken nuggets. Get bored and go back to 0 with a new problem or get rich and retire.
drasnor
Re: Prime's Ryzen build
It's perfectly fine for my needs. I also don't need crossfire. I can't speak to the audio, as I just use the HDMI out on my R9 380. Clocked up to 3200 for the RAM with zero issues and has been rock-solid stable. With ultra-fast boot turned on I go from power-off to login screen in about 5 seconds (Samsung NVMe SSD).
Re: Prime's Ryzen build
@Cliff_Forster I highly recommend the ASRock AB350 Gaming K4 and any ddr4 3200 that's cl14 on the box.
Thrax
Re: Prime's Ryzen build
So this is what I have for the DIMMs recommended on page 2 of this thread (Corsair 2x8GB 3200). Running this with a 1700 on a Gigabyte B350 Gaming 3 MoBo.
Boots stable at 3200 every time so far.

Re: Where's the fucking Rum?
@BlackHawk once brought me a bottle of Ron del Barrilito from his homeland. Loved it. Rum is one of those spirits that I think most people just assume is for cocktails but when you have a good one neat or on the rocks it's a real eye-opener. Complex drink.
Re: Prime's Ryzen build
I have these ICs running at 2x8GB 3200MT/s. All I had to do was load the XMP profile and go. It was effortless.
I suspect the Corsair DIMMs with Hynix MFR are doing something unusual with the subtimings.

Thrax
Re: Adventures in bourbon - Bottled in Bond
@UPSLynx said:
@doabarrellroll said:
@UPSLynx I didn't know you were a Bourbon guy! We have a lot to talk about.I've been a whiskey fan for a long time, but only over the last 3 or 4 years have I really started digging into bourbon. I used to be hardcore scotch whisky, but these days I've been buying more bourbon than anything else (with the exception of beer, of course).
Dude we need to hang out, drink bourbon and talk about Porsche.
I'm trying to go to the Icrontic thing in June but yea man, I've got an open bottle of Blanton's on my bar cart anytime you want.
Re: Prime's Ryzen build
Been testing RAM for a better part of 7 days 24/7 with a Ryzen 1700 and a Crosshair, the same board as Brian have. So far, Samsung B-Die based ram is second to none if you go 8GB per stick. They easily do 3200 @ 14-14-14-14 latency and 12-12-12-12 latency with a little bit of extra juice.
The difference between 2400 at cas 18 and 3200 at cas 14 is amazing in many games. Remember you are not only raising the memory frequency, you are lowering the one bit of achilles heel Ryzen has (or had i should say), the Fabric interconnect.
Any 8GB sticks that are sold as 3200 cas 15 should be B-Die. To be safe, go with the 3600 rated kits, they are 100% B-Die. The problem with this is that G.Skill have vacumed the whole market of these IC's and off course is goughing the price up.
There are some decently priced kits around:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313825&cm_re=DDR4_3600--20-313-825--Product
The best kit you can get is this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232306&cm_re=DDR4_3600--20-232-306--Product
3600 speed at cas 15. These are the best binned sticks out there.
I have also tried one el-cheapo Corsair 3000 kit (currently in this PC) and while it is totally fine at 2666 and 2933, Ryzen mainboards generally doesn't like to boot to 3200 speeds unless you have B-Die. The Corsair 3000 is Hynix M-Die. Just remember to set cas latency to an even number no matter what ram you use.

