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Warning: I didn't read through this thread. Sorry if this got mentioned already.

Noticed something during the second viewing. During the final battle of Luke and Kylo. Along with Luke being cleaned up, Luke's feet were giving tells that he wasn't actually there. They focus on Kylo's feet. He shifts. White salt gives way to bright red. They focus on Luke's movement, nothing. So good.

My predictions for the next movie:

Phasma is alive. Definitely scarred.
Snoke is super dead and irrelevant, hopefully.

That's about all I can say at this point.

This article is up my alley: http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2017/12/18/the-last-jedi-a-mirror-slowly-cracking/

The Last Jedi cares very much about your expectations.

It’s just not going to meet them.

You, a fan, have explicit ideas about what a Star Wars movie can and should do, and it’s going to use that against you.

later:

It’s a mess in the best way. Because in that mess, the patterns are lost, the expectations are destroyed, the tropes are broken and bent. For the first time in a long time, I had literally no idea what was going to happen, and that felt like madness in the best way.

and finally:

The challenge comes for the viewer is this:

Do you need need your Star Wars to be comfort food?

Personally, I'm at the point where all the meta commentary about whether this movie checks X number of boxes correctly for people is driving me crazy. I loved the shit out of this movie, and this article almost perfectly mirrors my thoughts about it.

Burn it all down. It was brilliant.

@BuddyJ said:
How did Rey get on the Falcon after the battle on the Supremacy? Plot hole or did I blink and miss something?

You talking about at the end? When Hux found Kylo, they said she took Snoke's escape shuttle, and from there, yeah, I think you're supposed to infer that she located the Falcon and started saving bitches.

So I know why they made yoda appear physical when they did, he needed to stop Luke from going in the tree and seeing that the books were gone... "Rey has everything she needs".

I think the issue some might have with Yoda as a puppet is that its not the original Yoda puppet from Empire, that's long gone.

RE Rey esacping to the Falcon, she told Chewie to wait for her signal to come get her, so Chewie's out there with the Falcon avoiding the fight waiting for Rey. Rey gets Snoke's escape shuttle/pod thingy and signals Chewie to come get her and they head to the planet there.

@primesuspect said:
When Luke force-projects himself, he took extra time to make himself look good, younger, and dye and trim his beard.

Ha, I noticed this, too - 'hey, his beard's not white anymore, and... he got a haircut?' And then you find out he's Zen'ing from across the universe. I loved that.

I think overall, my feelings are that it's a middle movie. It exists to move the plot along, flesh out some stories, get us from the first to the third. Empire was much the same way. We've hit nearly the lowest point we can hit, so now it's time for 9 to come roaring back.

Leia thing was a little overboard, some of the humor I could have done without, Poe's a fucking badass at the start (but I'm glad he gets brought back to earth later), I sat in the front fucking row so I absolutely need more and better viewings, and I'm definitely generally positive without feeling like it's an award-winner. Good middle movie.