CB's fresh start

CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄ƷDer Millionendorf- Icrontian
edited June 10 in Hardware

As mentioned in my 'instability issues' thread. I think it's time for a fresh PC. My current PC has some parts that are nearly 15 years old (even older if I count the case and fans.

The newest part is only a few years old. The graphics card, a GeForce GTX 1060, I'm tempted to reuse in a new build but... Then I wouldn't be getting a fresh start. I've been Ship of Theseus-ing this PC since like 1992. It's time to make a completely new PC. puts down foot dramatically

So...I don't really know how to do that. I don't follow along with the hardware conversations anymore. My interests moved on from the ins and outs of PC hardware market years ago, and all the model numbers and compatibility advice on-the-wibblies makes my head spin. I don't know. Does this mean I'm an old now? Anyway, I'm digressing here. I need advice for purchasing a new PC.

Here's what I need, simply:

  • Plays modern PC games.
  • Runs two monitors (I think all graphics cards do this now, but just to be sure.)
  • Has a lot of USB ports for all my studio and gaming peripherals. (seriously, I'm using all 10 on my current PC, and had to buy a powered hub to handle more.) [insert Isiea USB hub image here.]
  • Runs quiet (will be in my studio. I have solutions for filtering out the PC noises from my recordings, but quieter is still better)
  • much RAMs and HDs for A/V editing
  • Deliverable to my flat in Munich
  • budget 2k€-2.5k€
  • I do not require flashy or colorful pieces. It can be a plain beige box for all I care (tho, I have a feeling that's not even an option anymore).

It's okay with me if I don't have to LEGO the system together after it arrives. In fact, I may be willing to pay a small premium to not be required to do this. If it costs about the same to have the system arrive ready to use, I'm good with that.

I think that's all that you need to know before performing this valuable, yet somehow free, service for me.

Thank you in advance for any and all assistance in this heavy endeavor.

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  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    It ain't free. Pay me and I'll help.

    GHoosdum
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian

    I recommend waiting like a week until B550 is released.

  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    (It wasn't Eggroll it was Isiea)

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    My bad.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    There are a lot of pre-builts on zonDE, and the ones in the 1300-2200€ range all look about the same to me. Are you just paying for cool cases at that point? Is my budget too high?

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    @GHoosdum said:
    I recommend waiting like a week until B550 is released.

    What's this?

    I would like to get the new PC very soon because right now it's hard to get anything done, but also, Germany is doing a VAT rebate thing in a few weeks to kickstart the retail sector, so it's not too bad if I have to wait til then.

  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian

    B550 is the new AMD chipset that complements 3rd gen Ryzen. Comes out on the 16th.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    @GHoosdum said:
    B550 is the new AMD chipset that complements 3rd gen Ryzen. Comes out on the 16th.

    That would pair with the Ryzen 9, then?

  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    Yes, and at this point, waiting for it is the right move because otherwise you'll be buying in to the very tail end of the last-gen of motherboards.

  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    For reference, here is also the build that Sono recommended on Discord: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F2C8cq

  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited June 10

    @CB said:
    For reference, here is also the build that Sono recommended on Discord: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F2C8cq

    yea I fixed Sono's build because that motherboard is currently way overpriced and very limited stock. I replaced it with a comparable motherboard in stock
    also Sono had a 500w power supply for $240, again overpriced. I bumped you to a 750w for less
    So I gave you a better CPU with more cores, since you like to use a PC for 15 years lol
    Mine has the USB-C case for your USB addiction and put more m.2 drives on the list. One for the OS and the 2TB for your most used programs/games

    CB
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
    edited June 11

    I've had nothing but problems with ADATA M2 SSDs on x570 chipset. Maybe better now, but it really put a bad taste in my mouth for the brand.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    Which do you recommend, then?

  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian

    If you were in the US, I would now say Western Digital or Crucial.

  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian

    Contrasting viewpoint: I wouldn't buy any other SSD but the Adata XPG 8200 Pro right now. You just can't get better performance for your money.

  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian

    The Sabrent Rocket M.2 NVMe drives have gotten a lot of good comments.
    Personally mine are Intel (on older boards that don't need the speed) or Samsung 970 Pro.
    If you really want PCI 4.0 on the M.2 then you are dealing with a limited club, and the Sabrent is in it.
    I would go with 4x on the memory, a little less dense and a little cooler.
    The other CPU option is the R7-3800, fewer cores but higher speed (and a little less money).
    And a video card option (much deepening on which apps/games you run) would be AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT.
    Just some thoughts.

  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited June 12

    I build computers regularly, usually a couple a month. I pop a Crucial P1 in all of them. My reasoning is this. Other drives I've had to RMA, the Crucial P1 I've never had fail. It's cheap, it's fast enough, I just use them. I even use it in my own build. To realize the speed benefit of the cutting edge NVME drives you have to be doing some pretty specialized workloads and neither me or my customers are. Sure, it's going to add a little performance bottleneck vs. the Adata drive, but I'm into cheap and reliable when I can get it. Keep in mind it's QLC so that's assuming your SSD is mostly for static storage and you are not doing a ton of writes on it.

  • RyanFodderRyanFodder Detroit, MI Icrontian

    Itch to build a new computer... rising...

    MrTRiot
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    @RyanFodder said:
    Itch to build a new computer... rising...

    You HAVE to. You and I have been in lockstep with our PCs for years; can't let me pass you!

  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian

    @CB said:
    Which do you recommend, then?

    I ended up buying Inland, Microcenters branded drives. Was skeptical but they've ended up being great.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    Can't get Inland over here, unfortunately, though I also have had good history with that brand. :/

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    Do I actually need a new copy of Windows 10? Won't my license transfer?

  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    If your copy was OEM, it will not transfer. If it was retail, it will be tied to your microsoft account, and when you log in to your MS account on your new PC the license will just transfer seamlessly

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    I don't remember anymore. I think it was an upgrade from a previous Windows version? Is there somewhere in Windows I can go to see if my license will transfer?

  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian
    edited June 15

    Check the Activation tab in Update & Security in the Control Panel. Should say under what your current system is activated and if it was because it was linked to your account.
    -Edit-
    If it's linked to your account, you'll need your original CD key to activate it on a new system. I went through that when I upgraded but I had managed to save my Windows 7 key in Dropbox and forgot about it.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    I don't see Update and Security in my Control Panel. :/

  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    lulz. I was in control panel, not settings. :p I see it now.


    So, this means I don't need a new copy?

  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian

    You still need the original cd key from before you upgraded to Windows 10. Without it, MS support can't do anything.

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