NightShade737 had this to say
Probably the things that keep starting on Startup, that and the "UPGRADE TO QUICKTIME PRO!!!!! message that pisses everyone off so much.
I have quicktime pro, it does a WHOLE lot of cool stuff! I love Quicktime! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!
RWB had this to say I have quicktime pro, it does a WHOLE lot of cool stuff! I love Quicktime! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!
I agree...
QuickTime Rocks!
It is undoubtly the best/highest quality playback of video on the web today... Every other player I have seen shows some signs of blurryness or artifacting...
Every version of QT that I have used so far has a setting somewhere to remove it from your tray... I admit that it is getting harder to find but it is there...
I can understand the non-clutter thing but QT is still the best.
NightShade737 had this to say Probably the things that keep starting on Startup, that and the "UPGRADE TO QUICKTIME PRO!!!!! message that pisses everyone off so much.
NS
Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.
Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?
How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?
Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.
Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.
I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.
If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?
If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.
Dexter had this to say Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.
No. The built-in Windows XP .zip comression support suffices for now. I'm thinking about purchasing a license, because it is an awesome piece of software.
Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?
Negative. I use Avant Browser, an awesome freeware frontend for Internet Explorer that integrates pop-up blocking and tabbed browsing so I don't have to replace IE in my shell.
How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?
Nope. And the pop-ups are exactly why, besides the fact that it consumes significant system resources. My folks tried to install it on my P1, and it brought that system to its knees and created a missing .dll error every time it boots. I'm going to have to reinstall Windows, because I can't fix the .dll error in the registry.
Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.
That's why RealPlayer sucks. WinAmp is my media player of choice, and its freeware without nags. It also has a hell of a lot more functionality, as it can not only playback every audio format I know of through plugins but also every video format except DVD and .mov, and they're working on DVD. I can also export any audio it can playback to any format I have plugin support for. Right now I've installed LAME VBR .MP3, Ogg Vorbis, .WMA, and .WAV
Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.
I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.
That's nice. I also figured out how to disable the system tray icon, but the upgrade message is intolerable. Not everyone needs a fully featured encoder, so why can't they accept that some people want decode only and leave them in peace?
If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?
Honestly, I'm fairly certain that many online media distributors get a cut from Apple for using their format. XviD is freeware, has higher quality, and packs smaller than QuickTime's Sorenson3. If you insist on paying money for your codecs rather than going Open Source, DivX does almost the same thing. Both can be used with any MP4-compliant container. The Xenosaga II trailer is an excellent example of this. Which would you prefer, the 45MB file with awesome video and audio or the 85MB file with crappy video and worse audio?
If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.
I love Mac's, but I hate Apple. I own three Mac's now, and my favorite is the Mac clone. It does everything the others do, only fits in an industry-standard chassis and works with industry-standard components. There's just something I like about the phrase "industry standard". My wallet likes it too.
To be fair, QuickTime wouldn't be at all so bad if it didn't just plain suck as far as quality is concerned. I'm only looking for a parser for WinAmp because some people insist on distributing media in this inferior format.
Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.
- No, I use a freeware alternative that supports all the same formats.
Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?
- I use Mozilla, no pop-up stopper required.
How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?
- I used to use Kerio Personal Firewall and still do sometimes
Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.
- Real does, no other freeware I have has nagging, as that would mean it's not freeware, it's either a trial or shareware.
Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.
- I didn't mention WMP. I use Media Player Classic that looks like Windows Media player 6, uses codecs and is entirely free.
I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.
- Not if you don't want them, like me, or any of the other many millions who also do not want it.
If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?
- I'm probably not the only one who has noticed when we are stuck using the Macs at Uni, the only format it will let me export it to is Quicktime MOV. But thats probably just iMovie....
If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.
- Most likely. Being apple has nothing to do with it. The reason people hate it so much is because the amount of videos that are saved in this format. Not ones people have made, just trailers and other things, lots of videos in this format mean lots of "UPGRADE NOW!" messages.
- To you too.
Just a quick recap -
Media Player Classic - No nagware
Mozilla - No nagware
Kerio Personal FW - No nagware
Other Comp program - No nagware
And I don't use Quicktime anymore, I use "Quicktime Alternative". Oh, and I have never had nagging from RealOne other than when it is first installed.
Well, good points made by both of you, and all valid. But the fact remains that Apple has invested considerable resources into Quicktime, and like any other software company, they have the right to release a free version which encourages you to upgrade to the professional version. And like Windows Media Player (which you paid for with your OS whether you wanted it or not) Quicktime Pro give you dozens of playback, import and export formats.
Pop-ups and nags are there for a purpose. Sure, they are annoying, but of you don't like them, pay for the software and enjoy the added extra feature. Or ya, use the cheap freeware alternative, which will playback QT files, but will not give you half the functionality of QT Pro.
Drasnor - I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the quality issue, I think maybe you have been looking at some porrly encoded media. QT has long been the format basis for PROFESSIONAL video editing applications such as Avid and Media 100, and Adobe Premiere and Quicktime and Final Cut Pro on Mac since long before video editing on PC's was both financial and technically viable. And since MPEG-4 is Qucktime 6, I don't see how QT can be called inferior.
Well, I attend Full Sail for Digital Media, other programs include Game Design, CG Animation, Recording Arts, Film and some others. It is a MAJOR Entertainment Industry school, well reknown and simply amazes me still even though I have been here for a while now and should be used to it.
They use mostly Mac's, buton every machine PC OR MAC is a Copy of Quicktime Pro. Take Adobe After Effects for example, we tend to compress using Sorenson3, but you get better quality out of any compression method using Quicktime Pro.... which is ONLY $30, than with a program that costs at least $1,000. This is for both PC and MAC, and you get equal quality from Quicktime Pro on both platforms.
So with my movies I have made in the past, I rendered out in Animation, which is pretty much NON-COMPRESSED, and for 30 seconds it has taken up at least 500MB of space, then compressed into Sorenson3 on Quicktime Pro. Not only does the file size on Quicktime pro make it smaller than if I had originally rendered from AfterEffects into Sorenson3, but I get better quality.
One reason for this is becuase Apple tends to have better relationships with the creators of the Compression Methods, than what Adobe may have. Either way, Apple has my vote.
I was just wondering if anyone was getting attacked by the "Quick Time Task" whenever they load a page on the short media forums. Whenever I load a page here I recieve this message:
This happening to anyone else? And anyone know how to fix this? (That's spybot S&D, BTW)
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Exactly.
-drasnor
I second that NEVER!!
I agree...
QuickTime Rocks!
It is undoubtly the best/highest quality playback of video on the web today... Every other player I have seen shows some signs of blurryness or artifacting...
Every version of QT that I have used so far has a setting somewhere to remove it from your tray... I admit that it is getting harder to find but it is there...
I can understand the non-clutter thing but QT is still the best.
"g"
hmm doesn't work for me, have another link?
NS
Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.
Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?
How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?
Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.
Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.
I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.
If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?
If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.
Dexter...
To be fair, QuickTime wouldn't be at all so bad if it didn't just plain suck as far as quality is concerned. I'm only looking for a parser for WinAmp because some people insist on distributing media in this inferior format.
-drasnor
- No, I use a freeware alternative that supports all the same formats.
- I use Mozilla, no pop-up stopper required.
- I used to use Kerio Personal Firewall and still do sometimes
- Real does, no other freeware I have has nagging, as that would mean it's not freeware, it's either a trial or shareware.
- I didn't mention WMP. I use Media Player Classic that looks like Windows Media player 6, uses codecs and is entirely free.
- Not if you don't want them, like me, or any of the other many millions who also do not want it.
- I'm probably not the only one who has noticed when we are stuck using the Macs at Uni, the only format it will let me export it to is Quicktime MOV. But thats probably just iMovie....
- Most likely. Being apple has nothing to do with it. The reason people hate it so much is because the amount of videos that are saved in this format. Not ones people have made, just trailers and other things, lots of videos in this format mean lots of "UPGRADE NOW!" messages.
-
Just a quick recap -
Media Player Classic - No nagware
Mozilla - No nagware
Kerio Personal FW - No nagware
Other Comp program - No nagware
And I don't use Quicktime anymore, I use "Quicktime Alternative". Oh, and I have never had nagging from RealOne other than when it is first installed.
NS
Pop-ups and nags are there for a purpose. Sure, they are annoying, but of you don't like them, pay for the software and enjoy the added extra feature. Or ya, use the cheap freeware alternative, which will playback QT files, but will not give you half the functionality of QT Pro.
Drasnor - I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the quality issue, I think maybe you have been looking at some porrly encoded media. QT has long been the format basis for PROFESSIONAL video editing applications such as Avid and Media 100, and Adobe Premiere and Quicktime and Final Cut Pro on Mac since long before video editing on PC's was both financial and technically viable. And since MPEG-4 is Qucktime 6, I don't see how QT can be called inferior.
Dexter...
They use mostly Mac's, buton every machine PC OR MAC is a Copy of Quicktime Pro. Take Adobe After Effects for example, we tend to compress using Sorenson3, but you get better quality out of any compression method using Quicktime Pro.... which is ONLY $30, than with a program that costs at least $1,000. This is for both PC and MAC, and you get equal quality from Quicktime Pro on both platforms.
So with my movies I have made in the past, I rendered out in Animation, which is pretty much NON-COMPRESSED, and for 30 seconds it has taken up at least 500MB of space, then compressed into Sorenson3 on Quicktime Pro. Not only does the file size on Quicktime pro make it smaller than if I had originally rendered from AfterEffects into Sorenson3, but I get better quality.
One reason for this is becuase Apple tends to have better relationships with the creators of the Compression Methods, than what Adobe may have. Either way, Apple has my vote.
I was just wondering if anyone was getting attacked by the "Quick Time Task" whenever they load a page on the short media forums. Whenever I load a page here I recieve this message:
This happening to anyone else? And anyone know how to fix this? (That's spybot S&D, BTW)