Processor Upgrade

iDunnoiDunno Dallas, Tejas
edited February 2004 in Hardware
Hello,
I am not satisfied with the performance of my current system (specs in signature). I only get 50fps in ut2004 with 6xaa and 16xaniso.

I am thinking about upgrading my processor to the AMD Athlon XP 3200+ 400mhz fsb. i currently have 333mhz. if i upgrade to 400mhz then my memory will use used to full potential.

The upgrade will cost me 60-80 dollars.

I dont want to overclock because i think my shuttle is already hot.

What route should i take? thanks

Comments

  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited February 2004
    Try running your cpu @ 10.5 multi + 200 fsb. It'll actually downclock your cpu (by 60MHz) so no worries about temps. That way you can run at the same speed as a 3000+ 400FSB cpu.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited February 2004
    I am not sure those shuttles have multi controls, mine didn't (SN41G2). But maybe the newer ones do? :O
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited February 2004
    AFAIK, the 2800 barton 3000 and 3200 all use the same stock cooler, which is quite good for an oem hsf, with a solid copper bottom plate. A friend of mine is running 1 of those with his overclocked xp1700 @ 2200 MHz and 1.85v vcore and his temps while folding stay around 40 C. I think that you should at least try running an 11 multi with a 200 fsb speed and stock 1.65v vcore and see how it runs. If it does OK, then save the money you would have spent on the new proc for a vid card upgrade instead.

    The Shuttle AN35N I was messing with a few days ago definitely had multiplier control.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited February 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    The Shuttle AN35N I was messing with a few days ago definitely had multiplier control.

    He has a Shuttle XPC with a Shuttle SN45G microatx board. I have an MN31N at work and it has multi controls, but my Shuttle XPC (SN41G2) didn't.

    edit: also applies to the rest of your post, the XPC's have a built in heatsink system.
  • iDunnoiDunno Dallas, Tejas
    edited February 2004
    yah, my shuttle has cpu multiplier setting. waht should i set it to again? right now, fsb is on 166mhz, multiplyer is on auto, and volage is on auto.

    should i go ahead and change multipier to 11 and voltage to 1.65 or leave it on auto?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2004
    Try Als suggestion first see if it will do that first.
  • iDunnoiDunno Dallas, Tejas
    edited February 2004
    i switched it to 11.5 multiplyer on accident, and temps were at 52 on idle.
    is this ok?
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited February 2004
    Still doesn't matter if he buys a 3200 and sticks it in the board or just ups the fsb to 200 and drops the multi back to 11, as long as he leaves the vcore at the stock setting they will both produce the same amount of heat at the same speed. If his 3000 can run at the same settings and vcore as a 3200 (200X11), then he has a 3200 for nothing. They both use the same 1.65v as the default vcore for both the procs.

    EDIT: One thing I would definiely do if I owned one of those shuttles is to cut that cheesegrate grill out where the hsf exhausts and put a wire grill in it's place. Those cheesegrate deals put up a lot of backpressure which impedes airflow and also raises the noise level.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    iDunno wrote:
    i switched it to 11.5 multiplyer on accident, and temps were at 52 on idle.
    is this ok?

    Well, yes, marginally(that temp will not kill it, no, but expect a rise when it is under load, and the sum of the two (current temp plus rise) might be a bit edgy for your CPU). I would put a better HS like an SLK-900 on it to stay with that multiplier given idle heat. Also woudl suggest Ceramique or AS4 HS compund. Even my 2500+ runs stable, known stable, at 53 C. The breakage temps are about 20 C higher, so if you want to experiment for an hour and load box and see what temps do, you can try that, but myself would say back off and use 11 multiplier for now until you have one of the best HeatSinks and good HS compund. My older Barton rises 6 C above idle when it is loaded, figure on 10-15 for yours and if more definitely back the multi to 11 for now.

    John D.
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