Tinker (NO s at the beginning Paleeze!)
witenoiz
19,356 miles East of Kansas City, MO Member
:bigggrin: I rezalize the thinking behind the anti-Tinker folders :woowoo: but shoot-fire boys and girls I just love them :usflag: My little farm is folding 17 right now and in a few days the results will be an added 1,276.20 credits. I have been a member of this wonderful group for less than 3 months 
Oh, I know it seems longer, :bigggrin: Athlons and Tinkers are a match 
What if I had these suckers Over Clocked to the MAX 
I need a Logo Stable Farms - We Fold :celebrate Our mechanic is the Maytag repair guy!
Jack
Oh, I know it seems longer, :bigggrin: Athlons and Tinkers are a match What if I had these suckers Over Clocked to the MAX I need a Logo Stable Farms - We Fold :celebrate Our mechanic is the Maytag repair guy!
Jack 0
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Something new is about to happen in this area but I am not allowed to spill it.:) My lips are sealed.
Those lips still sealed, buuuuuuuuuuuuuddy?
Those lips still sealed, buuuuuuuuuuuuuddy?
Gromacs do the multi-variable playing and Tinkers can do first-look-at-idea tries.
Points feed competition, which gets more work doen if new folders are not discouraged by low pointage. If it works for people turning in more, that is good-- if not, competition can lead to folsk turning away from folding right after they started or because thye do not know how. I fold for this team instead of my own, because you folks taught me how, and watching the OC discussions made me learn something about OCing. right now, temps are too high to OC my Barton, I will probably have two P4 boxes within two months as the P4s are more stable at higher temps. And, they ROCK for Gromacs folding. Were I not on this team, I would still be folding, but pure points do not motivate me worth beans.
I am trying to point out what works, not what does not get more smaller boxes doing base work for Gromacs-capable boxes to continue. There are lots of Universities with smart folks who license the cheapest way to get base research done, and folding is one of the majors for Cancer research and altzheimers and even the avian cancer that in humans results in a nasty fluish thing that puts older folks in hospitals.
What Witenoiz is doing is to help do some of the base research. What the big fast boxes will get is more and more complex things, seen that trend all the time I have been folding. Gromacs is one way to take combo treatment ideas and pre-evaluate them so what is pumped into folks trying to kill somehting deadly is better pretested instead of, as with my dad, he ended up having to be used as a guinea pig as much as have a real chance to live. He did not live. He was :screwed: by something that was not of human fault in a blameable sense.
He got chains of recurring tumours, they worked very close to spinal column right inside back of his jaw, adn surgery would have meant removing part of jaw and since tumour was large and also nested right next to spinal column of neck, in front, part of his tongue and part of his mouth would have to be removed. He was evaluated, thought a good choice for a near-tumour infusion with chemo that was much stronger and toxic than the nomral chemo or radiation could do without killing him literally with the treatment itself. This was a research project. The place also had a skull-base surgeon for the alternative.
Thus, I fold so this does not have to happen to someone else, and I want something better SOONEST! I still :cry: inside when I think about that as I helped care for him at home for a long time. I still remember him near the end when he was confined to a hospital bed, had to be elevated at a 45 degree angle and his tongue was swollen from tumour growth inside and behind it. We went to injected Morphine to keep the pain minimized. He was unconscious for the last month. He planned his own funeral 9 months before dying. My grandma also died in my arms, literally....
She had lung cancer. She went fast, thank God, and lived to her 90's. That was mom's mother.
Dad died about 3 years before his mother did, he was 71, she died at 102. His death broke her will to live. Hhe stopped eating mostly, minimum food we could talk her into eating.
I am doing what I do simply because I also give folding feedback, and when I asked for something like an effectiveness rating simply because slower boxes were NOT as effective with Gromacs as bigger boxes, I am sure others also did. Not for more points, but so more complex scenarios could be worked through faster by combining things that worked partially to see if combos work.
Folding is not about me, though conceivably research done in folding will lead to things that might help me some day. It is about finding ways that are not 50% likely to NOT succeed having to be sued as there is no alternative for them at the time they get massively hit with major problems humanity does not know enough about to know how to treat. I want more results in faster, that is my goal, but they must be valid results.
BTW, this is not a RANT, I am not looking for sympathy, I am not hyper-sad -- time (and faith) has let the massive ache be replaced by real here and now life coping, but the remembrance is still painful-- THIS is a major motivator for me. I WANT BETTER than my dad got. ONE HECK of a lot better, available and cheaper, FASTER working to kill or prevent, but with pinpoint accuracy as much as possible. Others feel the same way-- I know this.
Call it the "other" motivation some folks have to fold. Feel free to fold for whatever reason you choose and whatever makes you fold is good, but the end result will not just be points. Nor will it be instant, though enough branches of research are workign that things might coalesce in surpisingly sudden ways for some things.
John D-- who wants his folding boxes to be :smokin: with results that mean something to someone who needs them BAD while fighting for his\her life.
Dunno what that means, (Best caveman voice) They send, me fold!
Right click the shortcut and go to its properties.
In the target line add "-advmethods -forcesse -verbosity 9" so it looks like this.
C:\FAH directory\FAH.exe -advmethods -forcesse -verbosity 9
If there are "" around the target path put the tags after the last ".
"C:\FAH directory\FAH.exe" -advmethods -forcesse -verbosity 9
There must be a space between the exe and the -advmethods.
Got any more Qs, ask.:)
So far so good! I did all of the Intel stuff and will work on Athlons in time. Now, another question, I think the answer is yes. Do I have to start the program again? I don't think I have to re-boot. Jack
Intels could really use the advmethods and the Athlons could really use the -forcesse.
If you have EM3 I would sugges trying the EM3Calculator to see the points per hour difference. All you gotta do is click on the WU and enter your frame time. It will give you the points per hour/day/week. I think it might work if you get the Calculator and the EM protein file.