PS2 to Computer

JustinJustin Atlanta
edited March 2004 in Hardware
I'm not sure if this should go in the gaming thread or here but....

I am thinking about using a video capture card to display my PS2 on my computer monitor. I am thinking that since everything looks better on that screen anyway, maybe FFX-2 could have some justice done to it.

Am I way off in my thinking or would this work. I know that PS2 games are in NTSC wich is certianly not 1024x768 but I was thinking maybe....

Is this just a waste of time and if so, does anybody know of any emulating programs that would allow PS2 games to work on a PC? Or just the monitor? Or anything??????

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  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    Actually, the video capture card woudl see the iuncoming as TV. Make sure you get an NTSC capture card and not a PAL capture card, though.

    No, to emulate, the ROM from the machine itself would need to be present, that is not legal here in US. so, no legal software for that as far as use in US or US territories. Been doen, though, although I did not look into extreme details-- essentially, the machine's ROm needs to exist in RAM.

    COST??? More than a TV->digital audio convertor, lots more in time spent tweaking and in dev cost. Hardware would be one heck of a lot more efficeint also. Also, look at a Dazzle media hub for this.... :D

    John D.
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    There aren't any complete PS2 emulators out that I'm aware of, but my understanding of the law is that as long as you own a console, it's legal for you to own the system BIOS of your model of console (necessary to run the emulator), and legal to emulate the games you own.

    People have been using adapter or TV cards to play games on monitors for ages. Monitors just look better than television screens, and some TV cards do image enhancement that make input look pretty good. I had an old STB Tv card that someone wrote custom drivers for and they added de-interlacing and some nice effects that made video games look great.

    There are VGA boxes available for most consoles, but to my knowledge, the only consoles that actually change the output resolution when one of those things is plugged in is the Dreamcast and maybe the Xbox. It's going to look a little bit better just being displayed on the monitor (assuming you have a nice monitor), but it will probably be at NTSC resolution.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    Gargoyle wrote:
    There aren't any complete PS2 emulators out that I'm aware of, but my understanding of the law is that as long as you own a console, it's legal for you to own the system BIOS of your model of console (necessary to run the emulator), and legal to emulate the games you own.

    Well, enter the DMCA. That makes replicating the ROM illegal(the way the boxes work legally, you have the right to use what is provided, but not to copy or reverse engineer it, and that is what would be needed for a real emulator in software). Thus, you would have to record your own ROM, then get a program that might work with your ROM if the dev used same ROM rev to tune program. Agreed with rest, the way to go is hardware.

    In two words, emulation slower and not good-- oops, two words, EMULATION BAD.

    John D.
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    ePSXe is a very good emulator for the orginal Playstation. Of course, it took this long to get a good emulator. It really takes years to get all the kinks worked out and for hardware to be powerful enough. The ePSXe guy is working on a PS2 emulator I think, but it'll be years before it's practical I'm sure :(.
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited March 2004
    Or just get a vga adaptor for your PS2. I know they make em for Dreamcast and Xbox. I cant imagine there not being one for PS2.
  • MancabusMancabus Charlottesville, VA
    edited March 2004
    Here is a universal adaptor.
    http://www.the-console-corner.com/universal_vga_box.htm
  • JustinJustin Atlanta
    edited March 2004
    That is what I was looking for. I am also wanting to use my PC as a Tivo box. Any opinions as to whether I should go with the aforementioned box or a video capture card? I think the box would work but I can't seem to find a card without a slew of complaints on new egg. Thoughts?
  • MancabusMancabus Charlottesville, VA
    edited March 2004
    Justin wrote:
    That is what I was looking for. I am also wanting to use my PC as a Tivo box. Any opinions as to whether I should go with the aforementioned box or a video capture card? I think the box would work but I can't seem to find a card without a slew of complaints on new egg. Thoughts?

    Well the capture card would let you do both things as it has coax in capabilities. And you could hook the ps2 into the SVideo jack and play that way. The capture card will also feed the audio signal to your soundcard, so that is less wires to plug in.

    PVR cards are what you were looking at, right?

    What about these?
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=15-100-007&depa=1 for $79 or
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=15-116-609&depa=1 for $179
  • JustinJustin Atlanta
    edited March 2004
    Looks good. I'm not seeing the price difference though. What makes one better than the other? The box from console corner says it cleans up the video 4x. Would these cards do that?
  • MancabusMancabus Charlottesville, VA
    edited March 2004
    The Hauppauge will probably have better driver support than the Avermedia one. I also think the Hauppauge comes with better software and a remote.

    I don't quite understand what or how the pelican thing would be doing to increase the resolution of a game or video signal by 4 times. Sounds strange to me
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