mystery floppy drive

khankhan New
edited July 2003 in Hardware
there probably arent too many folk out there asking about floppy drives, but i have one thats been stumping me. floppy drive, appears to be properly installed cable-wise, when booted into windows 98, it will say "this disk is not formatted, do you want to format it" to every disk you put in, formatted and unformatted alike...when it gets to the format screen, it only has one option of disk type and that is 300k floppy (may have the number wrong, i dont have access to the computer right now). if you click format it just says the settings are incorrect, no matter what you do.

as i said its a windows 98 machine, running american megatrends BIOS...in the bios it says "Drive A: None Drive B:None". I thought that might be it, so i changed drive A to 1.44 mb floppy, and then when it boots it gives the same formatting problem...only this time it lists 1.44 mb as one of the options to format...if you click format the computer hangs. any suggestions? i tried reinstalling the device and flipping the cable. neither worked, and im out of ideas.

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  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Is the light on the drive permanently?
    If so, you need to flip the cable.
    But as you said the cable is right, it may just be dead....

    Try changing B: to 1.44 too, though it will probably just give a device missing message.

    Enable the "Floppy Drive Seek" option in the BIOS (it will be named something like that) to see if that says anything on boot.

    NS
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    ...and also, have you tried booting from a floppy? At least that way you'll eliminate (or isolate) any windows problem.


    Prof

    PS: Don't want to be a gloom merchant, but every drive I've ever seen that does that (and is hooked up properly) has had a read/write head failure.:(
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2003
    They are cheap. You can always get another one.
  • SpinnerSpinner Birmingham, UK
    edited July 2003
    Yeah, if you've given the cable a once over, and checked it's the correct way round, then those symptoms only really account to one thing in my book. That's a dead floppy drive. If you get a replacement for it, and it still doesn't work, then we'll have another think for you mate.

    Cheers
  • MERRICKMERRICK In the studio or on a stage
    edited July 2003
    I believe the other option on capacity for A:\ drives is 720KB which is the capacity of old DD floppies which I actually use on my Roland Hardware sequencer.

    Here's an academic topic which I don't expect to be replied to:

    Is there anything that can be done with the B:\ drive besides putting in a second floppy drive?

    Has anyone done anything interesting? Is the B:\ drive going to be a real mystery in a coupla years (let alone the A:\ drive)?

    And on the subject, is the slow read/write of A:\ and B:\ due to the physical media of the floppy or the digital troughput spec?

    Just wondering :confused:
  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited July 2003
    its dirty
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    good suggestions all. you're right, they are cheap, so we bought a new one and im going to do the install tommorow. i'll update after it works...because it will work....dammit.
  • maxanonmaxanon Montreal
    edited July 2003
    Khan, please update us if it works (or not). It sounds like a dead/dirty head.

    Merrick, I think they will disappear into the legacy la-la land like ISA. If PCI-E comes around, AGP will go the same route.
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    First of all, I installed a brand new sony floppy drive, ensured the cables are hooked up properly and booted. same error, all around. when i set up the BIOS to say 1.44 mb 3.5 inch floppy for drive A, it boots again, gives the same error (disk not formatted) and if you tell it to format the system hangs.

    <-confused as hell

    PS i couldnt find anything called floppy disk seek in the BIOS.

    hints would be appreciated.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    ...try a new cable?

    ...try to boot from a floppy? (Eliminates OS problems)


    Prof
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    good suggestions... next time i head over there i'll bring over a boot disk and a spare cable. any other ideas?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Did you enable those things in the BIOS as that will tell you at boot if the computer can talk to the floppy drive properly.

    NS
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    i really didnt see any options pertaining to that one. its a rather old american megatrends BIOS...
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited July 2003
    aaron which computer is this?
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    duncan's sister's rig. his mom asked me to fix it for them and this is just baffling me. i got the rest of the problems pretty easy...sound wasnt working (because speakers were plugged into microphone port) and too much spyware (adaware + 5 minutes = no more spyware). the floppy drive remains to be a mystery. for those of you who are helping me ponder...remember that it is not the floppy drive itself..i already tried replacing it with a brand new drive. today im gonna try a new cable, and booting from a floppy, and i'll update later.
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    alright, heres the update. floppy drive works. turns out that switching out the drives did the trick, i just couldnt tell because the disk i was using to test it was horribly corrupted. all other disks work fine, so problem solved. everyone who said dead drive was right.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    khan said
    everyone who said dead drive was right.

    Do we get a prize?:D


    Prof
    (Cash Only - No Checks)
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    no, but i sure appreciate the help! =P
  • maxanonmaxanon Montreal
    edited July 2003
    Did you try the old drive with a new floppy?
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited July 2003
    I've got the same problem with 3 out of 4 computers on my network. P3 desktop, p4 laptop, and p4 desktop. Amd desktop works fine. Perhaps another reason not to buy intel
  • khankhan New
    edited July 2003
    yeah i did...no disks work in that drive.
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