I have NAV 2002 on my main rig that i have purchased 2 av subscriptions for.....i really wish the fee allowed you a new updated copy of the NAV software instead of just the definitions....but i can't complain too much for $9.99.
On all my other machines i run AVG. Registration is annoying, but free----so it's not that bad. I would switch to Avast! if someone could convince me why it's better than AVG...........
I have NAV 2002 on my main rig that i have purchased 2 av subscriptions for.....i really wish the fee allowed you a new updated copy of the NAV software instead of just the definitions....but i can't complain too much for $9.99.
On all my other machines i run AVG. Registration is annoying, but free----so it's not that bad. I would switch to Avast! if someone could convince me why it's better than AVG...........
AVAST! has been awarded the Virus Bulletins VB100 Award meaning that it recognized 100% of in-the-wild virus, Trojans, and worms and passed every test successfully. This was done by an independent, not-for-profit, testing company.
Not only does AVAST! update automatically but does so whenever a new virus database is made available. I''ve had it update 3 times in one day: Evidence that this company is very serious about protection and in making its program the best. Additionally, unlike some AV programs, AVAST! works silently without causing system conflicts or interfering with the operation of other programs. This is important to me and it should be to anyone else. An Anti-Virus program with long tentacles that pervades every segment of your Operating System for no good reason is one I would choose to avoid.
Also, have you noticed how slow (even uncooperative) the Updates for both Free&Commercial Versions of AVG are? AVG has been marketed (bulletins, word of mouth) so well that their servers are constantly struggling to keep up with the demands of the public. This isn't neccessarily a bad thing, but in my opinion, having an antivirus program that can't access timely updates == having no protection at all.
I am not sure what enverex was referring to, but if he was referring to using the Intelligent updater, he does not know some things about it.
First, Symantec deliberately provides this set for this purpose and for recovering a NAv install.
Second, the updater they give out now is Intelligent in this way:
it will not update a NAV that has not been registered. When NAV is registered, each NAV gets its own subscription number from the Symantec server it talks to in order to register. The Intelligent part of the updater checks for a valid subscription number. THEN it updates. The defs they used to offer as a set three years ago did NOT check for a subscription number, and too many folks downloaded them and got free defs without registering NAV.
I started using Norton SystemWorks in the year 1999. I purchased it, and have purchased most years since then up through the year 2003. I have qty 10 legal CDs of NSW Pro 2003 and all can be registered. In the last 8 months I have purchased 25 such CDs-- bulk. If a box gets cleaned with NSW or NAV, the box's owner buys one unless they already own one. NO, NOT piracy.
To use this updater for recovery, you do this:
Uninstall NAV, and Symantec docs THREE ways to do this now and offers a remover that will make it easy that you have to get from Symantec. Reinstall NAv, and reregister it. Go to Symantec's site, get the Intelligent Updater. Let it do the defs update to current. THEN Liveupdate TWICE before you scan for viruses. This gets the program updates, which are NOT in the Intelligent LiveUpdater set. NOW you can scan. Without having to download three sets of incremental def downloads.
BTW, if I scan with F-Prot and kill viruses, the owner gets legal license to use it also. Condition of scan which I enforce. NO, NOT piracy.
John, two posts inquiring about a registration code were deleted from the thread by Mr. Kwitko. They appeared directly above Enervex's post. You can see the quote from one of the deleted posts in Enervex's post. Sorry for the confusion.
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John, two posts inquiring about a registration code were deleted from the thread by Mr. Kwitko. They appeared directly above Enervex's post. You can see the quote from one of the deleted posts in Enervex's post. Sorry for the confusion.
No, have chosen not to see anything Enverex says directly. Only thing that I saw was him being quoted, apparently after the other two got removed. I have had users ask me about treg codes, but I give them Symantec Customer Relation's 800 number. People have managed to partly erase NAV and get it yelling about a reg code, when in fact they also had a legit copy. Customer Relations will verify user info, then pass to tech support, tech support will email a fixer to user which fixes reg code issues for that copy of NAV only.
NAV 2004 original release had reg issues, and sometimes looping ones, again that is patchable. I did not see posts, but there ARE legit reasons to ask how to fix a missing reg code number with NAV-- I know 30 such over five years time for specific errors. I'll just hope they were indeed not mispoken\misunderstood requests for help that could have been given help legitimately AND WILLINGLY directly by Symantec-- and solved real and legit-help-needed problems with registration from legit copies of Symantec products.
I've just got and ran Avast on the basis that Shorty likes it, That man knows his stuff. Anyway, It found a virus on installing and wanted to restart the PC and do a scan so I let it. Its found loads, The PC already has PC-Cillin which it seems has missed all these. Looks like a great prog, I got the professional 60 day trial, I think I will be buying this.
I started using Avast as well on all the PCs I build that I don't own (I get Symantec corp ed. for free from work for my own PCs). Anyway, Avast has been working great. Better than AVG for options and seems pretty comprehensive in virus catching. AVG, on several occasions, failed to catch a virus until after it had been included in a system restore point, and it would flag the virus found in the restore point but not the normal file.
Avast caught lots of infected files where PC-cillin had found one. I got the 60 day trial of the proffessional version, very happy with it so far. What's the differance between the pro and home versions?
I've just got and ran Avast on the basis that Shorty likes it, That man knows his stuff. Anyway, It found a virus on installing and wanted to restart the PC and do a scan so I let it. Its found loads, The PC already has PC-Cillin which it seems has missed all these. Looks like a great prog, I got the professional 60 day trial, I think I will be buying this.
Just a comment for you bothered:
when you install a new Antivirus program and start scanning, it will inevitabley locate the "quarantine" folder of the old / existing anti-virus software. Anything in that folder is going to get flagged by the new anti-virus as being a virus...which it is, except your old anti-virus program already knew that and had it under control.
I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case for you here, but when you do install a new anti-virus program and it does it's first scan, keep an eye on the location of any items it finds. If they are in an exisintg quarantine folder, the virus count is not really a vaild indicator that this new program is any better than the old one.
I think everybody thinks in a different way. I run Norton 2004 on my PC, in fact I have just bought it today(it can be called upgrate) I think it,s allright.
Dexter
That's what happened. On install, Avast popped up a virus warning and wanted to scan on boot, so I let it. (PC-cillin popped a warning up at the same time?) On boot Avast found 4 or 5 virus' in lots of infected files, most, as you say, in PC-cillins quarantined file but not all. PC-cillin found one. The PC-cillin in the kids PC is an old one that seems to have trouble updating which is why I put Avast in. My PC have PC-cillin 3000 which updates almost everyday and is very good. Thanks for the info though.
I have tried both pieces of software and I gave up on using Avast because it seemed to cause my computer to run very sluggishly. (AMD 3+ ghz - 1024 mb ram).
I am wondering tho if I gave it a fair shot. Reason - I did not uninstall AVG - just told it to unload.
Could having AVG on the machine have caused Avast to have a bit of a problem?
Carol
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BlackHawkBible music connoisseurThere's no place like 127.0.0.1Icrontian
edited September 2004
I've tried Avast, AVG, NOD32 and NAV. Except that NAV uses more resources, I really didn't notice a diffrence between them. What's left to try I guess is McAfee and maybe Kaspersky, which are the ones I hear the most.
However for the highest level of protection, Kaspersky can't be beat (over 98.5% detection rate by 2 independent labs - SpyWareInfo.com & av-comparatives.org).
Personally, I use NOD32 on my desktop systems, Kaspersky on my server systems & Symantec AV on my Firewall appliance (SGS 5420).
This thread is now closed for discussion, as it has served its purpose. For any new questions or new discussion about anti-virus products, please feel free to start a new thread in this section of the forum.
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~Cyrix
On all my other machines i run AVG. Registration is annoying, but free----so it's not that bad. I would switch to Avast! if someone could convince me why it's better than AVG...........
Avast has options, AVG doesn't.
Everything. AVG gives you no control over anything. Download it and see, I'm not going to go into details as it would be pointless.
Not only does AVAST! update automatically but does so whenever a new virus database is made available. I''ve had it update 3 times in one day: Evidence that this company is very serious about protection and in making its program the best. Additionally, unlike some AV programs, AVAST! works silently without causing system conflicts or interfering with the operation of other programs. This is important to me and it should be to anyone else. An Anti-Virus program with long tentacles that pervades every segment of your Operating System for no good reason is one I would choose to avoid.
Also, have you noticed how slow (even uncooperative) the Updates for both Free&Commercial Versions of AVG are? AVG has been marketed (bulletins, word of mouth) so well that their servers are constantly struggling to keep up with the demands of the public. This isn't neccessarily a bad thing, but in my opinion, having an antivirus program that can't access timely updates == having no protection at all.
Er, isn't that Piracy?
I am not sure what enverex was referring to, but if he was referring to using the Intelligent updater, he does not know some things about it.
First, Symantec deliberately provides this set for this purpose and for recovering a NAv install.
Second, the updater they give out now is Intelligent in this way:
it will not update a NAV that has not been registered. When NAV is registered, each NAV gets its own subscription number from the Symantec server it talks to in order to register. The Intelligent part of the updater checks for a valid subscription number. THEN it updates. The defs they used to offer as a set three years ago did NOT check for a subscription number, and too many folks downloaded them and got free defs without registering NAV.
I started using Norton SystemWorks in the year 1999. I purchased it, and have purchased most years since then up through the year 2003. I have qty 10 legal CDs of NSW Pro 2003 and all can be registered. In the last 8 months I have purchased 25 such CDs-- bulk. If a box gets cleaned with NSW or NAV, the box's owner buys one unless they already own one. NO, NOT piracy.
To use this updater for recovery, you do this:
Uninstall NAV, and Symantec docs THREE ways to do this now and offers a remover that will make it easy that you have to get from Symantec. Reinstall NAv, and reregister it. Go to Symantec's site, get the Intelligent Updater. Let it do the defs update to current. THEN Liveupdate TWICE before you scan for viruses. This gets the program updates, which are NOT in the Intelligent LiveUpdater set. NOW you can scan. Without having to download three sets of incremental def downloads.
BTW, if I scan with F-Prot and kill viruses, the owner gets legal license to use it also. Condition of scan which I enforce. NO, NOT piracy.
John D.
No, have chosen not to see anything Enverex says directly. Only thing that I saw was him being quoted, apparently after the other two got removed. I have had users ask me about treg codes, but I give them Symantec Customer Relation's 800 number. People have managed to partly erase NAV and get it yelling about a reg code, when in fact they also had a legit copy. Customer Relations will verify user info, then pass to tech support, tech support will email a fixer to user which fixes reg code issues for that copy of NAV only.
NAV 2004 original release had reg issues, and sometimes looping ones, again that is patchable. I did not see posts, but there ARE legit reasons to ask how to fix a missing reg code number with NAV-- I know 30 such over five years time for specific errors. I'll just hope they were indeed not mispoken\misunderstood requests for help that could have been given help legitimately AND WILLINGLY directly by Symantec-- and solved real and legit-help-needed problems with registration from legit copies of Symantec products.
Just a comment for you bothered:
when you install a new Antivirus program and start scanning, it will inevitabley locate the "quarantine" folder of the old / existing anti-virus software. Anything in that folder is going to get flagged by the new anti-virus as being a virus...which it is, except your old anti-virus program already knew that and had it under control.
I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case for you here, but when you do install a new anti-virus program and it does it's first scan, keep an eye on the location of any items it finds. If they are in an exisintg quarantine folder, the virus count is not really a vaild indicator that this new program is any better than the old one.
Dexter...
That's what happened. On install, Avast popped up a virus warning and wanted to scan on boot, so I let it. (PC-cillin popped a warning up at the same time?) On boot Avast found 4 or 5 virus' in lots of infected files, most, as you say, in PC-cillins quarantined file but not all. PC-cillin found one. The PC-cillin in the kids PC is an old one that seems to have trouble updating which is why I put Avast in. My PC have PC-cillin 3000 which updates almost everyday and is very good. Thanks for the info though.
I have tried both pieces of software and I gave up on using Avast because it seemed to cause my computer to run very sluggishly. (AMD 3+ ghz - 1024 mb ram).
I am wondering tho if I gave it a fair shot. Reason - I did not uninstall AVG - just told it to unload.
Could having AVG on the machine have caused Avast to have a bit of a problem?
Carol
http://home.comcast.net/~quako33/antivirus_roundup.htm
However for the highest level of protection, Kaspersky can't be beat (over 98.5% detection rate by 2 independent labs - SpyWareInfo.com & av-comparatives.org).
Personally, I use NOD32 on my desktop systems, Kaspersky on my server systems & Symantec AV on my Firewall appliance (SGS 5420).
it found a trojen that AVG did not find
the first vir. that i have had in 4 years
also scans network drives(that is how I scan the download/folding desktop:)
Dexter...