Updgrade question

HannibalHannibal
edited July 2003 in Hardware
I am looking to upgrade my current processor, it will be for purely overclocking so what is my best bet:

2400+ 266fsb $79 @ newegg
2500+ 333fsb $87 @ newegg
2600+ 333fsb $96 @ newegg

MY current rig is
1600+ locked. 164fsb 1.69ghz (its the chip)
Epox 8RDA (nforce2)
Corsair 2x256 DDR400 running 5-2-2-2
Radeon 9500 Pro (370/320:D)
80gb WD 7200rpm
onboard sound, nic etc..
heatsink is an AX7 with 40cfm fan

im leaning towards the 2500+.. any ideas welcome:)

Comments

  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Probably the 2500+, they usually get the best overclocks along with the DLT3C/JIUHB 1700s.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    Thrax said
    Probably the 2500+, they usually get the best overclocks along with the DLT3C/JIUHB 1700s.

    I second the motion. You could be the guinea pig and try the 2600+.

    I wouldn't bother with the 2400+, the 2500+ is fairly certain to OC well.


    Prof
  • reelbigfishreelbigfish Boston, MA Member
    edited July 2003
    definitly go with the 2500+. It has more cache than either the 2600+ or 1700+ and will hit as good an overclock as either of the other chips. You might get the same clock speed from the 1700+, but the extra cache is definitly worth it.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited July 2003
    Why no mention of 2100's? They go pretty damn high, but once again they dont have the cache of the bartons.
    definitly go with the 2500+. It has more cache than either the 2600+ or 1700+ and will hit as good an overclock as either of the other chips

    Uh... from my experience 2500's on air max out around 2.3 and the newest 1700's (1.5v) max out at 2.5 on air.
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    So would I get a noticeable performance boost from replacing a 2100 (non-overclocked) with a 2500 in a Epox 8RDA+? At least one worth 87$...I plan to overclock the 2100, but just haven't gotten around to it.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited July 2003
    If you oc them both you wont notice the difference so the $90 will be waste. If you keep them at stock you may :/
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    Preacher said
    So would I get a noticeable performance boost from replacing a 2100 (non-overclocked) with a 2500 in a Epox 8RDA+? At least one worth 87$...I plan to overclock the 2100, but just haven't gotten around to it.

    The Barton core will perk things up for you.:thumbup


    Prof
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    So I have one yes and one no....hmmm....
    decisions...decisions.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    Preacher said
    So I have one yes and one no....hmmm....
    decisions...decisions.

    Not to put words in someone else's mouth (or dis Al) but I think Thrax, 'fish, and I are all in the "yes" column, right?


    Prof:cool:
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    hmm....that makes a more definitive statement..

    BTW, Hannibal, I apologize for digressing/stealing your thread.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited July 2003
    Well that was before the thought of a 2100 was brought up ;]
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2003
    I think he mean for his last Q which there were 2 replies to, a yes and a no.

    I have a tough answer with this one myself. I dont know what to get, the 1700+ or 2500+. Do you have the right equipment to reach high OCs with the 1700+. I mean the RAM, mobo and cooling.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    Good point. This also raises another point, which is that you can spend more money on the extras when OC'ing than you would have spent by getting the higher rated chip to begin with.

    It's not my money :D , but for me the Barton cache would tip the balance.

    Good points Al and mmonnin.:thumbup


    Prof
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    the way i look at it...the higher of a cpu u get..the better ocing potential it has....so you should go for the most expensive cpu until there is a substancial jump (50+) thats what i would do if i was in ur shoes
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited July 2003
    WuGgaRoO said
    the way i look at it...the higher of a cpu u get..the better ocing potential it has....so you should go for the most expensive cpu until there is a substancial jump (50+) thats what i would do if i was in ur shoes

    Not to argue both sides of the point, but one school of thought says that the closer a core gets to it's max, the less OC'able it is - that the core architecture itself is maxed out.

    On the other hand, when I'm spending money or recommending something I do exactly what you just said.


    Prof
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    mmonnin said
    I think he mean for his last Q which there were 2 replies to, a yes and a no.

    I have a tough answer with this one myself. I dont know what to get, the 1700+ or 2500+. Do you have the right equipment to reach high OCs with the 1700+. I mean the RAM, mobo and cooling.

    I have a Epox 8RDA+, Koolance PC-601 case, and 512 MB of Kingston HyperX 3500. I'd think that would give me decent overclocking headroom.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    koolance...have they gotten better since the last time they were reviewed?
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Well, I wish I could recommend them wholeheartedly, but I have mixed feelings. They have very good customer service, but their quality control hasn't been kind to me. I was one of three friends that all bought Koolances. The other two guys have had no problems. I, on the other hand, had it leak, not due to my installation, but due to a faulty radiator. I didn't lose any components and they fixed the case as well as gave me all new coolers and tubing.

    As for the performance, it's respectable, but by no means top-of-the-line. I got the PC-601, because it's quiet (VERY) and was a beginning/all-in-one step into the world of watercooling.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited July 2003
    Get a 1700 or just stick with that 2100 Preacher. That ram and case should be a nice fit.
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