K7D Confirmation

ShroomerShroomer Springfield,IL
edited June 2004 in Hardware
Will a K7D run fine with no VC ? sorry if this has been answered before but i could not find it.... I have looked for 2 days now

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  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited June 2004
    VC? Not sure what a VC is. I have owned like 4 K7D's and I have one here now. If you can clear up what a VC is I can probably give a definative answer.

    Tex
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    video card?
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited June 2004
    im going to assume he means video card, and i believe the answer is no
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited June 2004
    Since it has no on-board video its pretty safe to assume that NO it will need a video card to boot.

    Sorry but I just got to ask now.... why do you want to run a PC with no video at all? Cheap old video I understand. Old pci video I understand.

    No video card I don't get since you couldnt even shut the PC down properly.

    tex
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    you can always build it, and then try using remote desktop in to see if the computer booted.
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited June 2004
    I can pull the card out of mine and test. you don't need remote desktop just share a drive on the network. Pull the VC and then boot anbd see if you can connect to the drives. I don't think it will boot with no video at all. It will hang durring boot.

    Question is why? You do not need a monitor to boot just a crad but even then.... what reason is there to build a dualie with no video you can't even shut down properly? You can get a used pci video card for a couple bucks? I run three or four computers through a KVM into one huge 21" monitor but NO VIDEO? Why? I have done this crap for 20 years and I can't even think of an application with current OS's to have no video at all? Not linux or windows anyway

    Tex
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Tex: We have Sun servers that are "headless" (no video)... If it's a server, many times there is just no need for a display. Cobalt RaQ servers are like that as well.


    If you're trying to cram the board into a 1U rack case or something, then you can always get a PCI riser card and throw a $10 PCI crap card in there. A PCI riser card can be found at places like rackmountpro.com and servercase.com for a very fair price.
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited June 2004
    How do you shut them down properly? If from a command line you could have error messages and stuff and not login or type shutdown properly? Or an error on boot or?

    Big KVM with tiny monitor I understand.

    No video is hard to understand if its windows or unix based. I used to use suns a lot years back and they were just another unix variant. Maybe your using something much differant as a web server etc..

    tex
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2004
    Folding purposes? I have heard of people not putting video cards in. Less parts to buy (atho they are cheap) plus you can save some space that way.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    We have a SunFire V100 which is headless. If a shell is all you ever need, a video card does nothing for you. You log in remotely, shut it down, turn it on remotely (via LOM - lights out management), and do everything from remotely. There's no keyboard or mouse port, and no video card..... We use it for web, database, and mail.
  • edited June 2004
    I would run a rig like that for folding purposes. I keep them as barebones as possible for the cheap factor. In a lot of the bioses there is an option for not stopping on any errors. It's usually disabled by default. If it's changed it's quite possible to boot without the video card. My boards have onboard video so I don't have that problem but once I get winxp loaded I slap a copy of pcanywhere on them, throw them underneath some equipment where they are out of sight, and reboot them every once in a while via pcanywhere. I also have them monitored by electron microscope. No probs whatsoever with no monitors. I'll have to experiment to see if this works on a board without onboard video.

    KF
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