hi can you help me (can i block msn port off my pc)

red777red777
edited June 2004 in Science & Tech
hi thanx for looking.
the kids use my pc to go on msn messenger and argue like hell and fight like hell over time , to cut along story short can i block msns ip so it cannot be used plus im allways getting virus,s and and spam mail from them .
not getting infected with visus as pc firewalled and antivirus used , than for your time
shaun

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  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    You can get a consumer level firewall and configure it to block MSN and whatever else you'd like.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    You say you are firewalled. So, is this a hardware router firewall, a software program firewall, or do you have both running??? You can, if you have a software firewall, look into what it is allowing on the web. Then, you could tell the firewall not to let MSN Messenger have access to the web.

    Another thing you could do, on a hardware firewall, is to open only the ports for http (80 and 8080), FTP ports if you want them, and your email ports. Close everything else. Holy heck and complaints are likely to resound from kids who then cannot chat and game, but you have control that way.

    One other hint for MSN Messenger: the newest version has some security patches in it. There were some holes in it, that let bots chat on MSN, offer software, etc. At least one of those holes has been closed by work done on the latest version, so if you have an older one you might want to upgrade it, as kids will be kids.
  • DexterDexter Vancouver, BC Canada
    edited June 2004
    What version of Messenger are you using?

    I did some quick research, and found a couple of things, but they only apply to older versions, not to version 6 and up:

    - blocking port 1863 at a hardware router, preventing authentication at login.

    - blocking the messenger/hotmail domains at the url level on a hardware router or in your system's HOSTS file.

    - a registry hack that prevents Messenger from being started in the first place.

    However, none of these work with Messenger 6.2, the latest version.

    What John D said about ports 80 and 8080 is incorrect when talking about Messenger 6 and up. If they cannot connect at the ports they normally use (1863 and some variants), they can and will connect at port 80. Since port 80 is the default for internet traffic, you cannot really block that unless you don't want to use the WWW at all.

    If you have a software firewall, as mentioned, you can block the application, but that is only effective if the kids know less about the computer than you do. Unless you have a firewall with password protected controls, the kids can easily reactive Messenger. Otherwise, they can easily disable the firewall altogether...which obviously is NOT GOOD, but they will probably do it "temporarily" to get what they want, right?

    I did see some commercial software that will monitor and identify the processes and traffic of not only Messenger, but a whole bunch of IM programs, P2P file sharing programs, and more:

    http://blockmsn.port5.com/
    What applications can TerminatorX stop?

    Just about any. The common ones you can choose from the list provided with TerminatorX (see below). Others, including future applications, that become a nuisance can be easily added. You can select any combination (one or more) of the following individual applications to block:

    File sharing applications
    Ares, BadBlue, Bearshare, Blubster, Cheetah, Crapster, DC++, Direct connect, eDonkey, eMule, File Miner, File Navigator, FileShare, Filetopia, Freewire, Gnucleus, Gnutella, GoMP3, Grokster, iMesh, KaZaA, Limewire, Morpheus, MyNapster, Napster, NeoNapster, PHEX, Piolet, Prune Baby, Shareaza, SwapNut, Swapper, URLBlaze, WinMP3locator,WinMX, XoLoX, and Yaga.

    Messenger applications
    APNI.NET Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, Buddy (AOL and MSN), Excite Messenger, MSN Messenger, MyEMessenger, Private Message Plus, Windows Messenger and Yahoo Messenger.

    Chat and video communication applications
    All chat in Internet Explorer, AOL chat rooms, Chatterbox, dIRC, Easy IRC, Easy Message Express, ICQ, ICUII, MICA, mIRC, MSN Chat, Netmeeting, Odigo, Paltalk, Trillian, VisualIRC and Yak.

    Music players
    MoodLogic Player, RealOne Player, Sonique, Winamp and Windows Media Player.

    On-line games
    PlaySite games, QuickSnooker and Yahoo! Games.

    Miscellaneous applications
    Internet Explorer, MultiProxy, Proxy Server List Hunter, Remote Havoc, Task Manager.

    Plus any others that you wish to add, for example eBay or other auction web sites. Additions are easy to do for any programs or web sites not mentioned above - or that may be developed in the future.

    Yes, you can ban any combination of the above applications. For example you could choose to block Kazaa, Morpheus, ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, Netmeeting and MSN Messenger.

    TerminatorX can be used over Novell and NT server networks and also works with windows workstations on a Unix network or Linux network.TerminatorX - how it can block MSN Messenger, block Buddy, block MSN, block MSN chat, and block other messenger programs

    Free 28 day trial, then about $55 for a home license. Maybe give that a try.

    Dexter...
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