Saddam's Sons Killed in U.S Raid
Spinner
Birmingham, UK
In some non-techy news, it has been reported that Saddam Hussein's sons, Odai and Qusai Hussein, were killed ealier today during a U.S raid on a mansion in northern Iraq.
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The full report:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01
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ARMY LT. GEN. Ricardo Sanchez, the commander of allied military operations in Iraq, said at a news conference Tuesday night in Baghdad that four Iraqis were killed in a fierce six-hour gunbattle that broke out when U.S. troops arrived to search the house, which reportedly belonged to a cousin of Saddam.
Without saying how, Sanchez said “multiple sources” had confirmed that the brothers were among the four dead people.
U.S. officials told NBC News separately on condition of anonymity that senior Iraqi figures in U.S. custody had positively identified the brothers after their bodies were taken to Baghdad. Old bullet wounds further cemented the identification of Odai Hussein, who was shot 17 times and badly wounded in an assassination attempt in 1996.
The full report:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01
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bothered.
I have to agree with Bothered, I didn't post this news article as a rally for celebration. Yes, I'm glad to see the back of them, but I feel it is in poor taste to rejoice over any loss of life.
So on that note, I request, not as a mod, but as a person, that Thrax, you remove that audio clip please.
SPINNER
ps... Thrax, I like the sound clip... It doesn't bother me. But I will not be heart broken if you take it down for the sake of not offending others...
I'm not particularly agreeing with the mindset that we should have tried capturing them, instead of outrightly killing them. The circumstances did not, and could not lend themselves to such. We are still at war, as no official declaration from either side has called its end. According to every news source I've heard, the brothers and their forces opened fire on allied troops, and they were killed in the process when we returned fire.
Doesn't sound like there was much of a possibility to detain and try there, does it?
That said, two of the most sadistic individuals in the last 50 years are dead, and I am pleased.
The soundclip will stay until someone else removes it, but I have turned autoplay off.
Bothered:
You can caustically spout off about "The American way" in the most sarcastic manner possible (You already gave it a pretty good shot), but as I have explained above, the circumstances dictated their death.
The offical mandate states that we are to capture them if possible, kill if not. The brothers and their forces were heavily holed up in bunkers attacking US and UK forces, there was no way to capture them without massive loss of American and British life.
Considering the past record of both of them (Torture fans, murderers) I have every reason in the world to rejoice their passing. Two less people that could serve as the bringers of death to millions of people.
Furthermore, I fail to see how this constitutes murder when we are at war....It appears the line between murder and war (And their distinct difference) has blurred severely for you.
bothered.
Thankyou, having the autoplay off is good enough for me.
I am not willing to get into a debate about U.S policy towards Iraq, and I was never questioning the circumstances surrounding the two sons of 'Hussein's death. I just don't feel any loss of life should be celebrated.
I respect everyones opinions and stances on this subject, and for the most part, understand them fully. I personally though, found the soundclip distastefull. Either way, enough has been said. Let us not argue any further about this. What ever your feelings are about this piece of news, I think we can all agree, those particular individuals don't deserve this attention.
They are dead, the loss of life saddens me, but the loss of those individuals as people does not.
That's correct. At least according to the report.
While the sanctity of life should be preserved at all costs, I contend that Uday and Qusay lost the right to be counted as members of the human race decades ago. I rejoice not in revenge or spite, but in the hope that this is another step down a long road towards freedom and justice for the millions of Iraqi people who deserve it.
bothered.
Udai/Odai
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Qusay/Qusai
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Here are the photos along with audio and the full story
Yeah, I often find myself wondering if what I write is "heard" the same way I'm thinking and writing it.
If I get a note from a friend, I usually "hear" their voice as I read it. When reading something from someone who I have never actually heard speak I find it hard sometimes to plumb their intent. I've often wished I could put little "stage" directions in front of my posts, just to avoid having what I write be misunderstood.
Prof
("Prof, a fairly genial guy, sits quietly at home. The stage lights come up to reveal him surrounded by his two loveable mutts. He chuckles amiably and begins to type...")