Flash drive help

entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
edited October 2004 in Hardware
I'm thinking about getting a 128mb flash drive, as i've always found floppies useless, small and slow and I never bothered to get my hands on a ZIP disk even though I have a drive. So i'm looking at these two. I read something about companies 'tricking' ppl into get 'usb 2.0' when all they're saying is that it's compatible with usb 2.0, and doesn't really transfer at those speeds. These are the two I'm looking at. Any more info on if it's really 2.0 or not, and which one I should get and why is much appreciated. thanks :)

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-211-220&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-155-414&depa=0

Comments

  • gibbonslgibbonsl Grand Forks AFB
    edited July 2004
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-211-220&depa=0

    this one has to be 2.0

    Speed: Transfer speed up to 480Mb/sec

    says in the spec. sheet
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited July 2004
    Well, the other one has a usb "Hi-Speed" logo, but I just don't know.
  • edited July 2004
    Get one of those SAndisk Cruzer Mini drives. The 256MB drives are only $40 on sale (and I find them on sale often at many diffrent stores.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited July 2004
    Yeah, I would love that. But I'm not willing to spend $40 on one. Chances are I'll never be in the position where I go, "Crap! Wish I would've gotten more space!" with a flash drive. This is generally for bringing important files to friend's and such, and for bringing homework to school (email is unreliable, ftp/http is risky as well, in case something happens during the day and I can't access my computer), using it as a floppy (gotta love Memtest :D then I can erase that cd; also for flashing bios, etc).
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited August 2004
    Hey, let's all flog the double poster! Anywho, I caved and spent the extra $9 on the Sandisk Mini Cruzer 256mB version. Came out to $38 with shipping I believe. TheSmJ (or anyone else) - does it come with a usb extension cable? I couldn't see one in the package, but I hope so. The stupid compact Dells at school are hard enough to cram a cable into, let alone an inflexible drive...
  • rykoryko new york
    edited August 2004
    you can never have too much space on a flash drive...or hard drive for that matter!
  • edited August 2004
    entr0py wrote:
    Hey, let's all flog the double poster! Anywho, I caved and spent the extra $9 on the Sandisk Mini Cruzer 256mB version. Came out to $38 with shipping I believe. TheSmJ (or anyone else) - does it come with a usb extension cable? I couldn't see one in the package, but I hope so. The stupid compact Dells at school are hard enough to cram a cable into, let alone an inflexible drive...

    Sorry, no. I wish it did though. Then again, I doubt you'd want to carry one around with you, anyways. The only place I'd use one is at work, because my office machine doesn't have USB ports on the front of the case.
  • edited October 2004
    You should be careful with certain brands, like sandisk. They're not fully compatible in all cases and require their own drivers in certain instances, which really sucks if you're trying to use it on someone else's computer and you don't have the drivers with you. I think the problems are in Win 98 and 2000. Most of the flash drives just use native drivers, but Sandisk, for some reason, needs their own.
    Please understand that I have only read this in articles on the web, and have not experienced the problem myself. Maybe you won't have any trouble at all. The prices are dropping, so you can get several of them someday, anyway.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited October 2004
    (talk about thread resurrection, lol)

    Yeah, I ended up going with the SanDisk Cruzer Mini256 meg drive, and it's worked great so far. No problems whatsoever, even on the school's computers, which they've got locked up tight. Though, like you said, I haven't used it on 98/2k at all, but I haven't touched a 98 computer in ages.

    Don't think I ever mentioned it, but I DID end up spending 40 bucks (or close to, at least) on this thing. Thanks for the input guys - don't think I would've been able to survive with 128 ... nor would my friend who I'm slowly converting to listening to my (read: good!) music :D
  • edited October 2004
    $40 is not bad for a 256. Mine cost me over $70, and it's some off-brand name. Bought it a few months ago. I just picked up an mp3 player for vehicles that uses a usb flash drive for media. You plug it into the cigarette lighter, and it broadcasts the mp3 music over an FM channel. You can select one of several frequencies, all down in the 87 - 89 MHz range. It worked fine, briefly, then the fuse in it blew. I've gone through several fuses and tried it in three vehicles, as well as a regulated 12 volt power supply, and the fuses keep blowing. So I guess I got a bad one. I'm returning it for another one, so I'm not too upset. I love the idea and when it works for those few seconds, it sounds pretty good. The thing I like about it is that you can use any generic usb flash drive with it. And it's really small, so carrying it around in your pocket is within reason.
    If you want to check it out, it's called MP3onChannel, and the model number is MP-308. There's a review on it here: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/brando-mp308-fm-mp3-review.html.
    I paid 54.99 plus shipping, but in a google search on the model number, I found it for as low as $41. Figures. Just after I paid $54.99 for it. Ain't that always the case?
    Anyway, just thought you'd like to know about another use for your sandisk.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited October 2004
    seatech1 wrote:
    I think the problems are in Win 98 and 2000. .


    You are correct that special drivers are needed for flash drives that want to be USB 2.0 drives in Win 98. Win 98 was not natively set up to support USB 2.0. 2000 did, but did so much better with some service packs installed than it did with the original installation (Yes, I know when USB 2.0 came out, but dev of drivers that were REAL stable for USB 2.0 explicitly lagged behind the bus introduction). SO, the drivers for the SanDisk that are compatible with 98, ME, and 2000 tend to slow the drive down unless you have a USB 2.0 Expansion card (pci) or the box came with such retrofitted in it and drivers for that speed bus were installed with the card. Essentially, you get a upgrade of USB when you do this, at least with Adaptec USB 2.0 cards.

    XP has USB 2.0 root hub support, probably will just use your Cruzer USB flash drive fine. The 98 SE Dells might have PCI USB 2.0 cards in them or run the drive at USB 1.1 rates (1\4 of USB 2.0 rates, 120 MB\sec for USB 1.1 as opposed to USB 1.0). The Windows 2000 Dells with certain service pack levels can probably use it as a USB 2.0 drive (probably W2K SP3 and up can use it some, W2K SP4 and up is best with USB 2.0 native devices that act as virtual drives).

    The curious thing also, is that if you get a digicam 7-in-1 or 6-in-1 media card reader working at full speed (USB 2.0 type I\O) with a 98 SE, ME, or W2K box, you probably installed stuff with that reader's drivers that in essence give you USB 2.0 support for the flash drive also (some of the better flash media reader driver sets also end up checking for USB 2.0 root hub support, and sometimes installing THAT if it is not present during driver install for the reader).
  • BLuKnightBLuKnight Lehi, UT Icrontian
    edited October 2004
    I gotta tell ya, I have a new found respect for the cruzer mini 256. Just last week I was doing laundry (y'all see where this is going) and to my shock and horror, I'd left my flash drive in my pocket. It went through the washer and dryer. Luckily, I followed rule number 1. Wait until the hardware is dry before plugging it in. Anyways, when I was sure I'd let it sit long enough (even though I think it completely dried in the dryer) I plugged it in. IT STILL WORKED!!! I was too happy. I'm sticking with Sandisk.
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