Overclocking for Newbies?

edited September 2004 in Hardware
Hello,
I have never overclocked a processor. I recently purchased an NF7-S. I honestly wasn't interested in overclocking when I purchased it, just stability. I won't even have the system assembled until Monday hehe. I have been reading about the OC potential this motherboard unlocks and I am curious. How involved is overclocking a CPU? Can a 2700+ thoroughbred core even BE oced? Does it automatically oc my RAM then? I have PC 2700+ DDR, but may upgrade to 3200+ if i can afford it. I was going to go with crucial ram. Any suggestions or should I not try it?

Comments

  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    Sure you can OC. Not sure what to. Having PC3200 would help a lot when OCing.

    Yes OCing the FSB will OC your RAM as well.

    The NF7 is the best for OCing. Most likely the limit now will be your RAM.
  • edited August 2004
    Hi!
    Get an Athlon Mobile and PC3200.
    Bang for the buck and you'll be happy.
    2.4 to 2.7 Ghz average.

    speed_x
  • CreepCreep Hell Icrontian
    edited August 2004
    http://short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4790

    It's stickied for a reason man, please excuse the grammar mistakes, I was sleepy when I wrote it..
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    hi,
    ppl i had a question. how much are the steppings important when buying a mobile.?
    or for that matter buying a locked desktop barton?
    what abt new and old mobiles, are the green ones better than brown ones?
    do different steppings overclock differently?if its true,where i can find which stepping is better.
  • CreepCreep Hell Icrontian
    edited August 2004
    http://short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4790



    :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    Just about any mobile will OC great!
  • edited August 2004
    Don't worry about the stepping!
    Most all the mobiles will do 2.5 Ghz
    The latest ones are better than the
    earlier ones. Don't worry, do it now!
  • edited August 2004
    Why would you ever buy a locked
    desktop Athlon? Is there something
    I'm missing here? Nothing beats the
    Mobile for the money. For about
    $80-90 you get a chip that will do
    an easy 2.6, 2.7, 2.8 Ghz!
  • edited August 2004
    Noman,
    There's only one thing you gotta
    do: Look for a supplier and get a
    mobile. Period!
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    have any one of u ever experienced or heard of a mobile failing? like its defective when it comes from store, or it dies within one month. or somthing like that??
    --may be i am too much apprehensive__
  • KometeKomete Member
    edited August 2004
    noman wrote:
    have any one of u ever experienced or heard of a mobile failing? like its defective when it comes from store, or it dies within one month. or somthing like that??
    --may be i am too much apprehensive__
    I havent read one case of a mobile dyeing or a defective chip.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    so i should just close my eyes and get one?
    one more thing, what abt those 35w mobiles?
    i saw on newegg that those are availabe at rating of 2000+ or 2200+
    how do these compare to 2400 or 2500 mobiles?
    is it true that 2500 mobile is better than 2400?
  • edited August 2004
    noman wrote:
    so i should just close my eyes and get one?
    one more thing, what abt those 35w mobiles?
    i saw on newegg that those are availabe at rating of 2000+ or 2200+
    how do these compare to 2400 or 2500 mobiles?
    is it true that 2500 mobile is better than 2400?


    1. Mobiles are hand picked procs that will run high speeds with less core voltage, which should suit your needs due to the hot climate in Pakistan. Less voltage=less heat to get rid of.

    2. The 35w mobiles run their rated speed with even less voltage than the 45w versions. I've heard they overclock well but I have no actual experience with them.

    3. From what I've seen, the 2500 and 2600 mobiles do overclock a little better than the average 2400 mobile, but not enough to spend a whole lot more money for. Both my 2400 mobiles will easily do better than 2300 MHz and my 2600 mobile will do better than 2500 MHz, while folding and loaded to 100% and running 24/7.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    1. Mobiles are hand picked procs that will run high speeds with less core voltage,
    3. From what I've seen, the 2500 and 2600 mobiles do overclock a little better than the average 2400 mobile, but not enough to spend a whole lot more money for. Both my 2400 mobiles will easily do better than 2300 MHz and my 2600 mobile will do better than 2500 MHz, while folding and loaded to 100% and running 24/7.

    hi, i got ur point, now here is little clarity needed.from what i know,,
    all athlons are same when they are manufactured,then amd test which can run on a low voltage,those which pass the test qualify as mobiles...
    now,since all mobiles are same in construction, and use 45w.
    then how do they give them ratings, of 2400 2500 or 2600? i need a little explanation on this point.
    also, if we put 2400,2500,2600 in same system.will the max overclock(upper limit) be same for all?


    again my old redundant question..i won't necessarily need a slk 900 type heatsink for 35w rght?will alx 800 do ok?
    alx is 18$ and slk 900a is 40$
    for info. 2400m 35w is 91$
    2400m 45w is 79$
    2500m 45w is 93$

    what will be the best??
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2004
    2400/2500/2600 refers to their default speed. A 2400 is slower than a 2600.

    All of them generally do have a similar maximum overclock. However, if ANY chip is to provide overclocks that exceed the ordinary, it'd be the 35w Athlon XP 2400m
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    so they are same,with only difference being the fixed default speed?
    plz also tell abt the heatsink quesiton.
    and one more, why do mobiles have 266 fsb whereas desktop have 333?
    does 35w 2400 do better or equal to 2500 45w?

    and
    say i hit 2300mhz on both 45w 2500 and 35w 2400.
    35w will do it on less votage, right? and will also heat less.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2004
    To your first question:
    You're right. They are roughly the same chips (Physically) beyond the default operation speed (And maybe voltage).

    To your second question:
    The ALX-800 is an excellent heatsink.

    To your third question:
    Mobile computers must be heat-conscious, therefore the negligible difference in speed between 266 and 333 doesn't warrant the increase in heat.

    To your fourth question:
    The 2500 is slightly faster, but the 2400 will probably overclock better.

    To your last question:
    Yes, the 35w chip can probably hit 2300MHz with less voltage and heat.

    //EDIT:

    Hey! You're from Pakistan, huh? That's cool. :D We're getting members from all OVER the place.
  • edited August 2004
    Noman:
    I purchased some of the first 2500 and 2600 Mobiles that came out of Newegg.
    I purchased 3 Mobile 2600. I got 2700 Mhz from the first 2 and 2600 Mhz from the third one. This was done without considerations for stepping and yada-yada.

    From what I've been reading, the newer 2600 steppings from Newegg are even better than what I purchased! If I had some money right now, I'd get another one at Newegg...right now!

    Now, what's gonna happen if you get one and it "only does 2500 Mhz?" You're still much better of!

    Hey, it wasn't too long ago it was "to die for" just to get 2500 out of any Athlon !!!

    I'm telling you: Newegg has got real good steppings right now. Get a 2600 and be happy!
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    hi,

    thanx guys, i am all clear now :celebrate
    im gonna get a 35w 2400m .;D .. 'cause it will heat less, i will also be having alx800 or slk900.
    and its good news for all of u, 'cause i won't be bugging u :tongue:again:D

    aalrighty :thumbsup:
  • KometeKomete Member
    edited August 2004
    noman wrote:
    hi,

    thanx guys, i am all clear now :celebrate
    im gonna get a 35w 2400m .;D .. 'cause it will heat less, i will also be having alx800 or slk900.
    and its good news for all of u, 'cause i won't be bugging u :tongue:again:D

    aalrighty :thumbsup:

    Well Make sure you come back and report on your overclocking adventures. oH and say hi to sayed Zaidi Hussein for me.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    Komete wrote:
    oH and say hi to sayed Zaidi Hussein for me.

    sure i will, who is syed zaidi hussain. could u elaborate who u talking abt??

    byee...

    ooops. one more question(i can't help it)
    arn't the stepping that start with "I" better than "A"
    like iqyx. kind of thing...
  • KometeKomete Member
    edited August 2004
    noman wrote:
    sure i will, who is syed zaidi hussain. could u elaborate who u talking abt??

    byee...

    ooops. one more question(i can't help it)
    arn't the stepping that start with "I" better than "A"
    like iqyx. kind of thing...

    No idea about teh steping, Zaidi is a friend of mine that lives over there. I was just joking really.
  • KINGPINKINGPIN PAKISTAN
    edited September 2004
    I think all the amd's have a lot of potential to overclock , So any processor is expected to have 400- 700 + mhz of it's rated speed.
    having pc3200 or 3500 is a good idea if u wanna make timings tight
Sign In or Register to comment.