Problem trying to add a new HDD

kal_mkal_m
edited September 2004 in Hardware
I was trying to add another hard drive(Maxtor diamondmax 9 160 gb)as a secondary master additional storage drive.The original settings on the existing hard drive were...the ATA cables gray connector was to the original hard drive and the black connector was free.I plugged in the new hard drive to the black connector and the jumper settings on the new hard was was set as master.When I tried to restart the system it didn't boot.the LED's are glowing the fans are running...the CD/DVD LED's are glowing but the floppy drives LED didn't glow.That was the problem.After that I put the original connections...but still had the same problem.The computer wouldn't boot.

Also one more thing I did was to dust off the mother board and fans with a paint brush.Could that have screwed up my mother board??I need immediate help. :bawling:
Thanks in advance.

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  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    Is there a "beep"?

    What kind of computer are we talking about here? Is this an OEM (Store-built/factory-built) computer like a Dell, or did you build it yourself? If you built it yourself, what kind of motherboard is it?
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited September 2004
    I assume that you are putting both HDDs on the same cable. The MASTER (confirm that the jumper settings are set for MASTER and not cable or slave) drive is your original HDD and that should be sitting on the end of the EIDE cable on the last of the two connectors.

    The new hard drive should be set as SLAVE and placed on the middle connector.

    Reboot.

    If you are using Windows XP Pro then go START>CONTROL PANEL>ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS>COMPUTER MANAGEMENT

    In the next window CLICK on DISK MANAGEMENT in the left hand window. In the right hand window you should see your original hdd and the new one. Right clicking on the new one brings up tools to partition and format the new drive.


    If this does not work then try setting the new hdd as master on another header. You can move your optical drive to slave.
  • kal_mkal_m
    edited September 2004
    primesuspect wrote:
    Is there a "beep"?

    What kind of computer are we talking about here? Is this an OEM (Store-built/factory-built) computer like a Dell, or did you build it yourself? If you built it yourself, what kind of motherboard is it?

    well there is no beep...i don't think the HDD is spinning.I don't know if this is relevant but the floppy drives LED is not glowing.
    I bought this in Feb 2003 on E-bay from the HP factory outlet.It is a compaq presario 6000.I never had problems of any sort before.

    Can it be that my cleaning the mother board with the paint brush screwed it up??
    Thanks.
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited September 2004
    Maybe...but probably not but it'd be a good idea anyway to check all the connections to make sure they are tight.
  • kal_mkal_m
    edited September 2004
    MediaMan wrote:
    I assume that you are putting both HDDs on the same cable. The MASTER (confirm that the jumper settings are set for MASTER and not cable or slave) drive is your original HDD and that should be sitting on the end of the EIDE cable on the last of the two connectors.

    The new hard drive should be set as SLAVE and placed on the middle connector.

    Reboot.

    If you are using Windows XP Pro then go START>CONTROL PANEL>ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS>COMPUTER MANAGEMENT

    In the next window CLICK on DISK MANAGEMENT in the left hand window. In the right hand window you should see your original hdd and the new one. Right clicking on the new one brings up tools to partition and format the new drive.


    If this does not work then try setting the new hdd as master on another header. You can move your optical drive to slave.

    The problem for me is not getting the new hard drive to run but i want the original HDD to boot.I kept all the settings in their original positions but still couldn't get the comp to boot.Even the floppy drives LED is not blinking.

    Is it possible that the motherboard is screwd up as I cleaned it with a painting brush??

    BTW I am running windows server 2003.
    Thanks.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited September 2004
    kal_m wrote:
    ...Can it be that my cleaning the mother board with the paint brush screwed it up??
    Thanks.
    Unplug the computer and carefully remove every card (video, sound, etc) one-by-one. Clean the slot (the paintbrush is fine, assuming it was never used for painting) and re-seat the cards. Do the same for your memory sticks and your IDE/SATA connectors. Make sure you didn't accidentally unplug the teensy CPU fan connector when you brushed it before.

    When you are sure that everything is snug in its place, try powering up the computer. If it's still a no-go try holding down the delete or insert key as you press the power button.

    If all that fails, try removing or disconnecting everything except the following:

    One stick of memory
    Your video card
    The Hard Drive with your OS on it.
    The CPU and its Heat Sink and Fan.

    Best of luck. :)
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited September 2004
    compressed air is NEVER a bad idea
  • kal_mkal_m
    edited September 2004
    I tried all but still the same problem.I found something strange...when i power on the system the fans start spinning and then stop and then again start running.But the HDD is not spinning.... :banghead:
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited September 2004
    kal_m wrote:
    ...when i power on the system the fans start spinning and then stop... :banghead:
    This sounds like the old CPU fan speed Catch-22. Many BIOS's have a setting to automatically shut down the system if the CPU fan speed drops below a certain level. The rub is that unless it has a built-in delay before shutdown you get the following: The computer is turned on. Before the CPU fan has a chance to come up to speed the BIOS panics and thinks the fan is failing and shuts down to protect the CPU from overheating.

    Try this at your own risk!!!

    My old Abit KT7A had the same problem, until ABIT released an updated BIOS which told the fan protection not to cut in until the fan speed stayed below the danger point for several seconds. I found that if I kept restarting I would eventually get lucky and the computer would boot. The reason I say it's risky is that you are giving the computer repeated power surges with each attempt.

    IF you are confident that you know how to get all of the settings in the BIOS back to where they need to be, a more elegant solution would be to try clearing the BIOS. If HP/Compaq is looking out for you, one of the defaults is to turn the CPU fan protection off. (Abit also put this in their updated BIOS.)

    At this point it may be worth a try. :)
  • kal_mkal_m
    edited September 2004
    well I don't think that may be the problem....'coz at he first place nothin is goin to the monitor...the monitor is as though the CPU is turned off.Also the problem of the fans stopping and starting was not there earlier.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited September 2004
    Try clearing the BIOS. As MediaMan mentioned, if you had a jumper misplaced your BIOS might have been seeing two devices set to master on the same channel and (for want of a better word) "wigged" out.

    What have you got to lose? :wave:
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